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    Quote Originally Posted by KitBrickman View Post
    Wondering if anyone who teles on the woods 108 can speak to ideal length. I’m 6’ 175lbs. Would 182 be too short? The fact that they measure true to length makes me more optimistic. Never skied anything from ON3P but from all the talk they seem great.


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    Woods 108, as in buying used? Or did you mean 102/110?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sf View Post
    Woods 108, as in buying used? Or did you mean 102/110?
    Yep, some used ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KitBrickman View Post
    Wondering if anyone who teles on the woods 108 can speak to ideal length. I’m 6’ 175lbs. Would 182 be too short? The fact that they measure true to length makes me more optimistic. Never skied anything from ON3P but from all the talk they seem great.


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    One my best friends (63 y.o.) has a pair of Gen 1 Woodsman 108’s that uses for Tele and he LOVES them. Says they “were made for Tele.” As for size, he’s about your size/weight and on the 186? He’s happy there and commented that a shorter ski would probably be even less work without giving anything up aside from top speed, maybe?

    He put Meidjo 3.0 bindings on them, which was a whole other variable he wasn’t ready for, the preciseness of those bindings. Now, he flies on those skis. When he’s NOT on his Billy Goats though… He’s really taken with the BG shape for Alpine and AT (he has both).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHSP1497 View Post
    One my best friends (63 y.o.) has a pair of Gen 1 Woodsman 108’s that uses for Tele and he LOVES them. Says they “were made for Tele.” As for size, he’s about your size/weight and on the 186? He’s happy there and commented that a shorter ski would probably be even less work without giving anything up aside from top speed, maybe?

    He put Meidjo 3.0 bindings on them, which was a whole other variable he wasn’t ready for, the preciseness of those bindings. Now, he flies on those skis. When he’s NOT on his Billy Goats though… He’s really taken with the BG shape for Alpine and AT (he has both).
    Since Kit and I are talking offline about my 182 woods 108 with outlaws…. the 182 woods skis long enough to be effective as a tele daily driver while being nimble in tight terrain. They ski slightly longer than my 180 Ripstick 106 with a very similar feel. They’ve got a higher top speed than the Ripstick as well.

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    Listed my J118s for sale on the gear swap page. With all the love for they've been getting in this thread I am expecting a full inbox by tomorrow morning

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoeSnow View Post
    Listed my J118s for sale on the gear swap page. With all the love for they've been getting in this thread I am expecting a full inbox by tomorrow morning
    Toooooo short [emoji23]

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    Quote Originally Posted by lrn2swim View Post
    Toooooo short [emoji23]
    I ran to the ad and when I saw the length [emoji22]

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    How tall are y'all? Just curious... The shop recommended 181cm for a more playful style and I'm 5'11. I get the feeling the average person on this site likes longer skis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoeSnow View Post
    How tall are y'all? Just curious... The shop recommended 181cm for a more playful style and I'm 5'11. I get the feeling the average person on this site likes longer skis.
    I’m 6’ & 185lbs and I just ordered 191cm Jeffrey 118’s to replace my 191cm Caylor’s. My Cease & Desist’s are 189cm and my Jeffrey 108’s are 191cm. Only my Billy Goat 108 Tours are shorter at 184cm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoeSnow View Post
    How tall are y'all? Just curious... The shop recommended 181cm for a more playful style and I'm 5'11. I get the feeling the average person on this site likes longer skis.
    6'2" and 205#. I would do the 186 but generally ski around 190cm skis. I prefer long for powder skis.

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    There are a few of us smaller guys here. That 181 J118 would be an awesome powder ski for me (5’8”/140lbs) but I’ve already got something I like at that 118 quiver spot and have other ski gear priorities. You can also see right now in GS a lot of 180ish skis listed recently, so people here ski that length, but yeah just a lot less demand under 185 cm on the TGRz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by theetruscan View Post
    anyone know if a new c&d is in the works? some regrets from passing mine on

    edit: i don’t care if i have to fix an edge, really
    I'd love a touring C&D after touring non-stop with my standard 2019 C&D's for 3 weeks in a row now. We've had the best snow in years up here lately and there is no better ski than the C&D for this, so leg torture it is. Still worth it

    But yeah. A C&D with the new core and thinner edges/base. I'd buy that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoeSnow View Post
    How tall are y'all? Just curious... The shop recommended 181cm for a more playful style and I'm 5'11. I get the feeling the average person on this site likes longer skis.
    Just my .2, I wouldn’t take ski recs based on height unless it’s your first time/you’re brand new to snow. Skis know how much you weigh, not how tall you are. Once to have technical skills, longer skis pay dividends in the stability department.

    If a ski has a ton of rocker (ie. jeff, wildcat, JJ) always just go for the longest length or just look at the effective edge and base your decision off that. And If you hate it cause it’s too long, I guarantee you can resell it on here

    If you were local to Tahoe I’d have you borrow my 191’s and let you see that they are just as manageable but they provide so much more with the extra few cm’s


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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiLyft View Post
    Curious… does this have anything to do with the cores ON3P uses. I truly believe they are leaving the factory 100% perfect, but does a bamboo core dry out at all? Thinking like work-working if Timber is green/not dried out. Hard to believe that bamboo covered in epoxy would need to “dry” out but just a hypothesis I’ve been kicking around.

    Side note: the SG is still the best freaking ON3P ski to date for me. Skied them the last 2 days and holy shit… GOD MODE. Send everything. Cadillac suspension. No fucks ever given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeHuWe View Post
    Just my .2, I wouldn’t take ski recs based on height unless it’s your first time/you’re brand new to snow. Skis know how much you weigh, not how tall you are. Once to have technical skills, longer skis pay dividends in the stability department.

    If a ski has a ton of rocker (ie. jeff, wildcat, JJ) always just go for the longest length or just look at the effective edge and base your decision off that. And If you hate it cause it’s too long, I guarantee you can resell it on here

    If you were local to Tahoe I’d have you borrow my 191’s and let you see that they are just as manageable but they provide so much more with the extra few cm’s
    Well, when my 110s are clapped out in 4-5 years I'll give it a go in a longer length. In the meantime I'll also try demoing some longer stuff when I get the chance.

    If a ski has a metal laminate does that factor into your decision on how long to go? My thinking is that a more supportive/stiffer ski would let you get away with a shorter length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoeSnow View Post
    Well, when my 110s are clapped out in 4-5 years I'll give it a go in a longer length. In the meantime I'll also try demoing some longer stuff when I get the chance.

    If a ski has a metal laminate does that factor into your decision on how long to go? My thinking is that a more supportive/stiffer ski would let you get away with a shorter length.
    I still use the effective edge measurement as my guide. I think it depends on what you want the ski to do. I have one ski with metal in the layup, it’s a 186 and I use as a on/off piste weapon. I think around a 150-160cm EE is a good guide for myself when picking out skis that would fall into the “charger” category. I’m 5’8” but also weigh 210.

    IMHO I think longer skis give you more pop and a bigger sweet spot when landing in natural terrain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by detrusor View Post
    It’s been year of the super goat at snowbird. Heavy? Zero fucks given. Wind fucked…who cares. Blower…bring it.
    [emoji869]🤌[emoji869] dude I bet, fall line slayers, esp once it gets tracked!


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    After a few more weeks on the Woods 108 I’m just checking in to say these skis are absolute 1 ski quiver all mountain slayers. Good god they are fun and can do pretty much anything on the mountain and enjoy it. I’m surprised and pleased.

    That is all.

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    Jeffrey 116/118 skis short AF. 191 or it be the snowbladezz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EWG View Post
    After a few more weeks on the Woods 108 I’m just checking in to say these skis are absolute 1 ski quiver all mountain slayers. Good god they are fun and can do pretty much anything on the mountain and enjoy it. I’m surprised and pleased.

    That is all.
    Yeah, I'm in my 2nd season and am thoroughly impressed with this ski. I've skied 22" in JH, cut up pow and crud @Bird, 24' Squaw, 16+ dense at Cannon. So wide open terrain to tight ec woods and it has been just an incredible ski.

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    ON3P SKIS Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by KitBrickman View Post
    Wondering if anyone who teles on the woods 108 can speak to ideal length. I’m 6’ 175lbs. Would 182 be too short? The fact that they measure true to length makes me more optimistic. Never skied anything from ON3P but from all the talk they seem great.


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    I think it depends on terrain as well. I tele the 182s in the east (in the woods mainly) but wouldn’t hesitate to go 187cm if I primarily skied open terrain. If you want something more kind in tight space 182s will not ski short. I am about your weight. Super fun ski. Give it a shot. Standing next to a 184cm Lotus 120 in my basement currently for a scale reference

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupreChicken View Post
    Jeffrey 116/118 skis short AF. 191 or it be the snowbladezz.
    Disagree. I think most people on TGR would be more than sufficiently server by the 186, and this is coming from someone who used to ski 191 Caylor's.
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    Figure this is a long shot, but tossing this out. Looking for a Jeffrey 102 (or similar) in a 166 or 171 length. My youngest skied his sister’s 161 Jessie 102’s last weekend and loved them. He’s a bit bigger than her. So looking for something a bit longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrgha View Post
    I'd love a touring C&D after touring non-stop with my standard 2019 C&D's for 3 weeks in a row now. We've had the best snow in years up here lately and there is no better ski than the C&D for this, so leg torture it is. Still worth it

    But yeah. A C&D with the new core and thinner edges/base. I'd buy that.
    oh, nice! We haven't been doing too poorly down here either - supposedly got 35cm today with more on the meny for bluebird tomorrow!

    Did you ever pick up any L124s, and if yes - any comparison to BG/CDs?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoeSnow View Post
    Listed my J118s for sale on the gear swap page. With all the love for they've been getting in this thread I am expecting a full inbox by tomorrow morning
    man, I would have picked them up immediately if I could. Alas, the pond lies in the way. Freaking great price for a dream setup - whoever gets them is really lucky.

    damn, those graphics are just so increadibly amazing. Would you terribly mind posting some closeups of the complete sections fore and aft of the bindings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessiøn View Post
    Disagree. I think most people on TGR would be more than sufficiently server by the 186, and this is coming from someone who used to ski 191 Caylor's.
    I agree with this. I’m 6’2 and 200 without issues on the 186. Truly feels a lot more playful then my 189 BGs and that’s what I wanted.

    Have zero issue with float and can toss them around so easily.


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