MFD All-Time Review

[The Dad]

I can't seem to find any info on the weight or stand height of the 4FRNT Deadbolt 13 or the Liberty 515.

Unfortunately, it looks like Tyrolia hasn't updated the technical database since the 2009-10 season, but bear in mind that they're just reskinned Tyrolias.

You might want to post in the Tyrolia thread, though.

[JRainey]

All i know is the deadbolt 15s have a 17mm stand height, but the 13s are different so the height might be aswell.

[deft_funk]

I was reading the specs for the Salomon set up and noticed that it says they are only compatible with the STH and STH Drivers. Did you come across any issues mounting your 912s? Would any Salomon binding work with the Alltimes?

I did have to cut down a few screws on each binding so they wouldn't rest on the toe pivot - I just screwed them in all the way on the plate itself and then cut off the extra that was sticking out below the plate with a hacksaw.

I should mention that I was on a preproduction version and was using standard ski screws in the plates. Most of the other ones produced at that time were using machine screws instead, which I think would have negated that problem, but I think they may have switched fully to ski screws for the release this fall. I'm not sure. If it were an issue I imagine they'd include shorter screws.

The only other issue is a slight rub on the ski from the very tip of the toe piece when touring. The STH's may have a shorter toe piece that would eliminate this, but in any case I only noticed it when I lifted the bindings all the way up by hand. There's no noticeable scraping of the topcoat or restriction of movement, and if there were you could just cut off that little bit of plastic in any case.

[mtskier]

Thanks mtskier! It's looking like Atomic and Salomon weigh the least. I noticed you are selling the Deadbolts and Liberty's Tyrolia bindings. I can't seem to find any info on the weight or stand height of the 4FRNT Deadbolt 13 or the Liberty 515. I have the 10/11 green 174 Double Helix and really want to put the Purple Alltimes on em And obviously the Night of the Living Deadbolts would be a perfect match! But I can't find their weight or stand height. Also the Liberty bindings, are they the same as one of the Tyrolia Peak or one of their other models? What combo's are you planning on mounting?

deadbolt 15 weighs just under 5 lbs per pair and the stand height is 17mm.

i will be mounting deadbolts on the older blue helix and the liberty 515 on the double helix.

[COloRADic]

You might want to post in the Tyrolia thread, though.

Thanks for the techs. I'm keeping it in this thread for now. I'm sure there are many others out there with the same questions. Knowing the specs of all these bindings is quite helpful in relation to how the MFD Alltime will feel and perform.

After researching...again, the Atomics sound HEAVY. I wouldn't want anything over 2.5lbs in addition to the 600g of the Alltimes. I like the weight of the Mojo and Peak 12s, guessing the Deadbolt 13s aren't too far off those. I like the stand height of the 15s as well.

I decided to nix the idea of matching bindings with skis and go for something wild. The price was right, so I just ordered up some multicolor '11 Head Mojo 15s to go on the purple Alltimes on my green Double Helixs! The snow is falling in the Colorado high country once again and I can't wait to get out on this new setup!

I'll make sure to post my review! In the mean time, Ill keep checking back for mounting tips with the Alltimes.

[mgski]

I have the Salomon Ghost in a 27.5 (315mm)...any thoughts on which size to get? Small run 265mm- 318mm while the Large run 312mm - 365mm

[Skidog]

I have the Salomon Ghost in a 27.5 (315mm)...any thoughts on which size to get? Small run 265mm- 318mm while the Large run 312mm - 365mm

Personally id go large...what if you bought a diff boot with a slightly larger bsl

[crawley]

I have the Salomon Ghost in a 27.5 (315mm)...any thoughts on which size to get? Small run 265mm- 318mm while the Large run 312mm - 365mm

Personally id go small...what if you bought a diff boot with a slightly smaller bsl. Plus the small will weigh less and create a potential smaller dead spot on the ski.

[HankScorpio]

Does anyone else feel the $299 for the MFD All-time is tad steep? Its just a metal plate with some plastic. Not many moving pieces or complicated mechanisms. I'd be more tempted to buy used Dukes at that price.

I'd be more tempted to buy this if it were $199.

[daviski]

I agree --considering it's only half of a tool for a touring binding. At $199 I would have bought this and not the barons that I got over the summer.

[Skidog]

Does anyone else feel the $299 for the MFD All-time is tad steep? Its just a metal plate with some plastic. Not many moving pieces or complicated mechanisms. I'd be more tempted to buy used Dukes at that price.

I'd be more tempted to buy this if it were $199.

This has been discussed ad nauseam over in another thread..do a search for it.

Im sure the price will come down. These are a bunch of ski bums trying to make a go of it. The construction and idea are bomber IMHO. How many touring rigs can you buy for $299? Im sure you already have bindings. Plus when you buy a touring specific binder you usually sacrifice somewhere else usually the downhill performance. slop, etc.

Its a solid idea and a good product.

[HankScorpio]

This has been discussed ad nauseam over in another thread..do a search for it.

Im sure the price will come down. These are a bunch of ski bums trying to make a go of it. The construction and idea are bomber IMHO. How many touring rigs can you buy for $299? Im sure you already have bindings. Plus when you buy a touring specific binder you usually sacrifice somewhere else usually the downhill performance. slop, etc.

Its a solid idea and a good product.

I'll be sure to search before every post from now on.

[Skidog]

I'll be sure to search before every post from now on.

Wasnt meant as a mean statement, just remember another thread that discussed that exact point and I personally didnt feel like searching. My point was only that it had been covered and lots questioned the price point. Ill again stick by the fact that most of us have binders already and enjoy their downhill performance. This would allow you to get into slack/backcountry pretty cheaply imho and still get that same feel on the down.

[mtskier]

I will be mounting my MFD with 4frnt deadbolt 15s. easily the most bomber touring binding setup out there.

for those that have compatible bindings, the MFD is the CHEAPEST way to get a touring setup.

people can get on board or keep complaining about breaking dukes, barons, and freerides.

[HankScorpio]

Wasnt meant as a mean statement, just remember another thread that discussed that exact point and I personally didnt feel like searching. My point was only that it had been covered and lots questioned the price point. Ill again stick by the fact that most of us have binders already and enjoy their downhill performance. This would allow you to get into slack/backcountry pretty cheaply imho and still get that same feel on the down.

Its become a huge faux paux lately to mention anything more than once in this forum. Can get a little annoying.

Regardless. I do like the MFD, especially the low stack height and added durability of the binding of your choice. I hope that MSRP comes down next season.

[Skidog]

Its become a huge faux paux lately to mention anything more than once in this forum. Can get a little annoying.

Regardless. I do like the MFD, especially the low stack height and added durability of the binding of your choice. I hope that MSRP comes down next season.

I hear ya...and there are too many things that are "annoying" about this board but the bits of info you can glean from here are well worth the idiosyncrasies any day. Again not meant to offend just wanted you to see the shitshow of a thread about how much the MFD costs.

[maxwell666]

man do i have an idea for a touring adapter! Look out mfd, if I get my idea going, it will be an mfd killer. (assuming it hasnt already been tried and rejected and I just haven't found out yet.)

[kbahus]

Thanks for the review. I saw these for the first time down in Boulder yesterday before knowing anything about them. I picked one up and couldn't believe the weight, then looked at the price and set it back down thinking they will not be selling many of those. It's a cool idea and if the price were less I would buy a set, but at $300 it seems to make more sense to buy Sollyfit plates, assuming you already have Salomon bindings. You would end up with a chunk of cash savings to put towards a pair of Plum or Dynafit bindings. In todays market price drives more sales than anything in my opinion, it is great to see new stuff, but at least make it affordable to the average bro.

[Skidog]

Thanks for the review. I saw these for the first time down in Boulder yesterday before knowing anything about them. I picked one up and couldn't believe the weight, then looked at the price and set it back down thinking they will not be selling many of those. It's a cool idea and if the price were less I would buy a set, but at $300 it seems to make more sense to buy Sollyfit plates, assuming you already have Salomon bindings. You would end up with a chunk of cash savings to put towards a pair of Plum or Dynafit bindings. In todays market price drives more sales than anything in my opinion, it is great to see new stuff, but at least make it affordable to the average bro.

you planning on swapping out to the downhill clamps once you get to the top with plum/dynafit? Otherwise you're still in that "compromise" area. Great uphill with the plum/dynafit, but for some not "burly" enough on the down. The MFD solves that issue completely. Lets you use existing binders for true alpine down performance, has low stack height compared to other more bomber uphill/downhill solutions, and good high climbing bars.
Im not shilling for them. I've met the guys once or twice in the lift line at alta and have seen the adapter progress over the last few years and i think its a cool idea. I also believe that once the adapter starts to bee seen in the wild and more people take the leap you'll see the price drop. They are local to Utah and, from my experience, good guys.

[kbahus]

I was under the impression that Dynafits are bomber enough for majority of the riders out there (I have no personal experience). When you put it into a point of view that the Dynafit's are not enough binding, or a compromise binding, than the MFD is the better option. When you hold it in your hand and fiddle with it you can tell it's serious business, mated with some 916's, PX18, etc then it's a really bomber setup. If that is what you need, then you have no better option that I have seen.

[Skidog]

I was under the impression that Dynafits are bomber enough for majority of the riders out there (I have no personal experience). When you put it into a point of view that the Dynafit's are not enough binding, or a compromise binding, than the MFD is the better option. When you hold it in your hand and fiddle with it you can tell it's serious business, mated with some 916's, PX18, etc then it's a really bomber setup. If that is what you need, then you have no better option that I have seen.

Exactly and for some dynafit is plenty burly..hell look at hoji droppin shit like its nobodies business on dynafits...to each their own. I just see that there is a market for those that feel they need that bomber clamp for the down. for me personally...10 din dynas are plenty, but i aint dropping anything but shits in my toilet...i dont feel im some "wasatch wiggler" and i ski them pretty hard but dont knnow that i'd feel right dropping a 15 footer with em either.. YMMV

[rossta2885]

So stoked to try these out! Just got my pair in the mail yesterday. Although I have one concern, was wondering if someone here could help me figure this out...

I had planned on mounting them on some Line Opus' 185, but the MFD plate is reallllllly long. With it mounted at the suggested mounting point (2cm back from true center), the rear heelpiece would be screwing in about 1/4 of the way up the ski. Not sure if you've seen the thin tip technology Line is doing, but the ski is pretty thin at that point. Shorter screws is a must, but I was wondering if you guys think it would hold well enough at that point on the ski? Any idea how long Lines' Binding Mat is in the ski?

Any help or insight on this would be...epic. Thanks guys

[don'tbrobrahmebro]

my mfd's wern't mounted centered on my skis, what is the "acceptable tolerance" for a binding to be off?

[skimaxpower]

^^ brah, you've already started another thread about this issue. Don't stank up two threads.

[CaliBrit]

So my only though on this is that it commits you to touring in a din sole boot, not a huge amount of options out there that have touring features right?