AT Helmet halp

[Benneke10]

The Cynic AT checks all the boxes for me except it doesn't have headlamp attachments, which is a deal breaker. Should I try to MacGyver my own homemade attachments?

[bean]

I hemmed and hawed about getting the movement 3tech helmet so long it sold out from skimoco in the hours before I decided to pull the trigger. Anyone know of any of these available anywhere? All I can dig up is a pink one from Europe and I’m not rad enough to pull that off.

[Benneke10]

Julbo The Peak helmet is very similar to the Movement and its available in the US

[galibier_numero_un]

I hemmed and hawed about getting the movement 3tech helmet so long it sold out from skimoco in the hours before I decided to pull the trigger. Anyone know of any of these available anywhere? All I can dig up is a pink one from Europe and I’m not rad enough to pull that off.

I'm a big fan of visible colors in the BC - for safety (and by no means due to radness, of which I lack).

... Thom

[Benneke10]

Anybody used the Grivel Duetto? Of course its ugly as sin but its the lightest lid with ski certification. I'm mostly curious if the minimal headlamp clips can handle a beefy light

[pde20]

Surprised no one has mentioned the sweet protection ascender (?). I've been wearing for a year now and dig it. Light, low profile, well ventilated, has Headlamp clips, dual certified. Goggle compatibility/fit is only issue, but it's basically an aesthetic one, for me anyway.



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[Jonathan S.]

Anybody used the Grivel Duetto? Of course its ugly as sin but its the lightest lid with ski certification. I'm mostly curious if the minimal headlamp clips can handle a beefy light

I've used it with BD Storm for night skimo races. The clips seem like they could handle a heavier headlamp too.
My review is posted here:
https://skimo.co/grivel-duetto-helmet

[Benneke10]

Thanks Jonathan. I went to Skimo and tried on the Duetto.. its the most comfortable climbing/ski lid I've worn. So light and simple. I'm usually between a M and L and it fit perfectly. I just didn't have the self esteem to pull the trigger and look like a cosplay gladiator.

Ended up with a Petzl Meteor which fits well in M/L with the brow pad removed. Anyone have advice for covering up the scratchy velcro that show on the inside of the helmet when the pad isn't there?

[cat in january]

Looking at the following helmets and none available locally so asking for insight before ordering.

Have worn poc fornix. Smith maze. Smith variance. Breathability for wearing on up and protection on down lead importance.

Pret cynic at: looks the least breathable and concerned large top holes would be a problem with my bald head.

Julbo the peak. Looks good but not much written about it

Sweet protection ascender mips: heavier and appears to have less back of skull protection

K2 r something or other. Poor reviews

Petzl scirocco. Goggles? Enough protection?

Salomon mountain lab too expensive

Wear smith I/O goggles

[Benneke10]

Looking at the following helmets and none available locally so asking for insight before ordering.

Have worn poc fornix. Smith maze. Smith variance. Breathability for wearing on up and protection on down lead importance.

Pret cynic at: looks the least breathable and concerned large top holes would be a problem with my bald head.

Julbo the peak. Looks good but not much written about it

Sweet protection ascender mips: heavier and appears to have less back of skull protection

K2 r something or other. Poor reviews

Petzl scirocco. Goggles? Enough protection?

Salomon mountain lab too expensive

Wear smith I/O goggles

Try the Julbo Peak and report back! Can be found on sale for ~$100..

[cat in january]

Leaning that way. All are near $100 with the sweet protection a bit more

Edit: Went with the sweet protection. Looks like a stronger design and excellent venting. Will see how it seems out of the box and on the head. The julbo is likely my second choice if it does not work

[Ørion]

Rather than making another thread, it looks like Smith is finally coming out with a triple cert touring specific helmet, the Summit:

https://www.smithoptics.com/en_US/p/...IT-HELMET.html

[PNB]

Rather than making another thread, it looks like Smith is finally coming out with a triple cert touring specific helmet, the Summit:

https://www.smithoptics.com/en_US/p/...IT-HELMET.html

I'm not sure I understand what's the big deal. It weighs 400g like my Marker Consort which is (for me) very confortable and without compromise.
If I want to go light I take the Petzl Meteor which is some 250g, quite compact and works well both with glasses and goggles (at least mine)
Granted, it offers no protection against cold and wind and you'd have to pull (at least) one hood up.

[Ørion]

Not certain it is supposed to be big deal (though I'm certain they'll try and market it as such), just another option in the field.

Having MIPS and Koroyd tech in a low profile, easy to pack, 400g helmet is an attractive package though. At least enough to test the fit when they make it into physical stores.

[tang]

I’m tempted by this one - would also replace my dorky looking and old BD climb helmet, less than half the weight of my bern ski-bike helmet, lots of vents, pretty cheap at $125. (Btw who’s paying like $350 for an atomic “bc” helmet?)
https://skimo.co/ski-trab-attivo-helmet

[PNB]

Not certain it is supposed to be big deal (though I'm certain they'll try and market it as such), just another option in the field.

Having MIPS and Koroyd tech in a low profile, easy to pack, 400g helmet is an attractive package though. At least enough to test the fit when they make it into physical stores.

I keep the eyes open for a real lightweight all-round ski helmet without too many compromises, but all I tried in the last years (Dynafit/Salewa, Salomon, Camp Pulse) were to small or a uncomfortable. A few years ago I had a Giro Montane with which I was quite happy till it rolled down into a crevasse at the Gran Paradiso in the western alps.
After that the Consort has been the best option for me.

[Benneke10]

I’m tempted by this one - would also replace my dorky looking and old BD climb helmet, less than half the weight of my bern ski-bike helmet, lots of vents, pretty cheap at $125. (Btw who’s paying like $350 for an atomic “bc” helmet?)
https://skimo.co/ski-trab-attivo-helmet

That Trab helmet is not actually rated for skiing, its just a climbing helmet marketed towards skimo racers.

[cat in january]

Big vent holes will keep a helmet like that from passing a ski certification. I thought Skimo helmets had to pass certification now.

[PNB]

Rather than making another thread, it looks like Smith is finally coming out with a triple cert touring specific helmet, the Summit:

https://www.smithoptics.com/en_US/p/...IT-HELMET.html

Sorry, to one regard I have to correct myself: the Marker Consort is about 485g (I just weighted it) so it makes some difference indeed.

[Jonathan S.]

Big vent holes will keep a helmet like that from passing a ski certification. I thought Skimo helmets had to pass certification now.

Sort of ... ISMF int'l regs require that helmets be certified for ski *and* climb.
Most U.S. races require either or. But some require the dual cert.

[alfajores]

I picked up the BD Capitan MIPS helmet and had it out on my first tour last week.

First impressions of the build are good. It is a nicer hand feel and seam gap than others like the Vector and Vapor. It will definitely work better with a rear-battery mounted head lamp than my past helmets.

In practice, the helmet is not something I love. It is definitely a lot heavier than past helmets I have used. The 355g rating feels really heavy in the hand and it is a bit more cumbersome than my other helmets for AT.

Another problem is that the cerebellum coverage on the back also acts to make the whole helmet adjustment system poorly fit over hats and beanies (I often use an OR running hat with no top-button and sometimes an OR windstopper hat). It is also much larger and isn't hood compatible with jackets that were not designed for helmets (duh, right?) but my other AT helmets were low-profile enough to fit. Even my belay parka doesn't fit over the helmet!

The cerebellum protection also makes one hand access to my BD 35L JetForce Pro bag helmet holder nearly impossible. I am scratching my head to figure out a quick rig system with some elastic cord to make this work.

I will remove all the internal pads and see if that improves the head feel on my next tour.

[goldenboy]

I got to use the Smith Summit last spring. It's pretty nice- the fit system folds up nicely inside the helmet so it doesn't break or get snagged, and the cords on the outside are pretty sweet for attachment if you aren't using a helmet carrier on the pack. It's pretty slick. Same goes for the headlamp attachment- super slick and low profile. I wish there was a bit of a goggle strap attachment on the back, although I never had trouble with my goggles moving on me. The only other thing that I would add is that my Smith 4D goggles didn't fit very well and left a gaper gap but the I/O mags fit great. It felt like an improvement on my climbing-oriented helmet that just worked "ok" for skiing.

[kootenayskier]

Haven’t found anything to dislike about my Salomon MTN Lab Helmet. It’s light, comfortable, strikes a good balance between weatherproofing and ventilation, and protects when skiing down and for things dropping onto my head. A lower profile would add style points and add compatibility with some hoods (I’m looking at you Patagonia), but isn’t necessary. The trend towards adding certification for biking seems pointless to me.

[ey_allen]

For those of you with the Salomon MTN Lab - Any experience with Smith I/O mags?

I have a Smith Vantage for inbounds and lots of Smith goggles around, but looking for something lighter for backcountry use. The Summit is on my list, but seems like it's harder to find, more expensive, and heavier than the Salomon. A few reports on Skimo seem to indicate that Smith goggles don't play well with the Salomon either.

[Benneke10]

I noticed these Petzl aftermarket headlamp clips recently and have been using them on a non-climbing helmet and they work well. I specifically got a AT helmet just for headlamp compatibility, as a resort helmet with the liner removed isn't much heavier. Now you can use your resort helmet with a headlamp and it can be a proper touring lid too https://www.gearx.com/petzl-uni-adap...hoCm6oQAvD_BwE