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  1. #18576
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    Thanks mags, went ahead and bought a position

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevo View Post
    I expect inflation over the next several years.

    More tax cuts and deficit spending, trade wars, and no political will to allow rates to be high enough to curb inflation.

    I expect that money will go looking for yield in risk assets.

    this is the bummer try not to think about a bad future but I don't see it anyother way
    crashes always happen in february or october it'd be nice to jump right into one at the begining of the year and get it all over with sooner than later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukonrider View Post
    Investor mags, I need a bit of hand holding through how this all works. I opened a Fidelity account, transferred in $1000 to start. I am looking to invest in SGOV, short term Tbill ETF fund, looks like it should return about 4.6% after fees. My questions are this:

    Do I just do a transfer from my account into this fund, then what, how do they pay me my "profits", monthly, daily? I read the prospectus and didn't see any time limits, long or short, or odd fees from Fidelity's side.

    It all seems so easy, what am I missing in the mechanics of this (not looking for investing advice here, though would be glad to share goals as a secondary to my original question).

    Just want to make sure I'm not sending my money out into the internet to never return.
    Fidelity is safe and easy with great tools. I use Fidelity. As you may know, the interest on a short term t-bill account is based on the monthly payout annualized. If short rates go down so will your forward yield. There is a menu item in your account that will say whether you re-invest the interest or pay to cash.

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    I sold all my equity positions about a month ago I'm 100% bonds:

    25% HYS
    35% BINC
    35% PDI
    7%. PAXS

    combined yields around 8.5%

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    I’m still lomg vix, barely,sldmany in that fake crash.

    Dumped half the tech stocks I bought the last two yrs.

    Sld coin 200-250, way to soon but still have SQ small crypto play, a the only one that hasn’t launched yet.
    Last edited by Cono Este; 11-20-2024 at 01:21 PM.

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    I’m still lomg vix, barely, sld any in that fake crash. I’m doubling my money and never selling until I get a pop. It’s comming.

    Dumped half the tech stocks I bought the last two yrs.

    Sld coin 200-250, way too soon but still have SQ small crypto play, and the only one that hasn’t launched yet. 100k was my target for btc.

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    VIX as a long term holding? Bold strategy Cotton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevo View Post
    I expect inflation over the next several years.

    More tax cuts and deficit spending, trade wars, and no political will to allow rates to be high enough to curb inflation.

    I expect that money will go looking for yield in risk assets.
    Don't forget a decent bump in unemployment (millions of federal workers losing their jobs). Going to be an interesting couple of years with a fairly high chance of a recession.

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    Oz over CMS and RFK for HHS, bail on science based healthcare stocks... invest in snakeoil!
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColMan View Post
    Don't forget a decent bump in unemployment (millions of federal workers losing their jobs). Going to be an interesting couple of years with a fairly high chance of a recession.
    Maybe the recession will offset the inflation caused by tarriffs!


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    Quote Originally Posted by summit View Post
    Oz over CMS and RFK for HHS, bail on science based healthcare stocks... invest in snakeoil!
    I think RFK is just a tool to make sure big pharma is spending their lobbying money Donny's way. Small companies, R&D, education, and public will get the short end. NIH hands out A LOT of money and yeah, I bet a lot will end up going to snake oil.

    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    Maybe the recession will offset the inflation caused by tarriffs!

    Honestly, I think this is the best we can hope for. Or Donny just focusses on grifting and all the clowns are too busy tripping over each other to get anything accomplished.

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    When I sold my equity I also lowered exposure to treasury in favor of corporates, bank notes, and other forms of non agency credit.

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    Is the stock market going to tank?

    Dup

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColMan View Post
    Don't forget a decent bump in unemployment (millions of federal workers losing their jobs). Going to be an interesting couple of years with a fairly high chance of a recession.
    No it will all work out. The millions of fired federal workers will be sent to the fields to replace the millions of deported crop pickers. That will teach them. Make Mao Great Again! MMGA!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfree View Post
    VIX as a long term holding? Bold strategy Cotton.
    No, I tried unloading it on the fake crash, vanguard was down. I told myself,I’d never sell amzn, google etc I bought in them in the 80’s, but I can’t help myself as washed up trader. We’ll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    No, I tried unloading it on the fake crash, vanguard was down. I told myself,I’d never sell amzn, google etc I bought in them in the 80’s, but I can’t help myself as washed up trader. We’ll see.
    No need to let those holdings tie you into the boat anchor that is VIX?

    BTW google IPO was 2004 and amazon was 1997

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    don’t confuse him with the facts.

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    Lol, Wow, that is up there with the guy who was buying DOW thinking it was a DJI ETF...at the time the company was actually doing better than the index, but he really got burned if still holding.

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    Pretty sure Cono is talking share prices and not years.

    $80ish per share, not 1980ish

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    Quote Originally Posted by 406 View Post
    Lol, Wow, that is up there with the guy who was buying DOW thinking it was a DJI ETF...at the time the company was actually doing better than the index, but he really got burned if still holding.
    MTT bought some Nasdaq stock in '22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColMan View Post
    Don't forget a decent bump in unemployment (millions of federal workers losing their jobs). Going to be an interesting couple of years with a fairly high chance of a recession.
    According to the Interwebz, there are approx. 2.2 million full-time federal employees, and about 1.4 million of them fall under military-defense programs, the Dep't of Veteran Affairs, and the Dep't of Homeland Security. I'd bet that after 4 more Trump years, the federal workforce dips to 2.1 million, maybe they break below 2.0 and approach 1.9M.

    It's a great whipping post in the meida, but dropping 1 million federal workers would do nothing to the federal budget and seems very unlikely. I bet they put in a hiring freeze, make teleworking miserable again, and offer early retirement options to get a 0.5% - 1.0% cut in the workforce.

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    Is the stock market going to tank?

    Berksire Hathaway continuing to stock pile cash (over $325B with a 3rd quarter increase of 17.4%).

    End of October saw peak gold price at $2,800.00

    Do these things signal an end to the bull run?

    What do you look for finance mags?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowsparkco View Post
    Berksire Hathaway continuing to stock pile cash (over $325B with a 3rd quarter increase of 17.4%).

    End of October saw peak gold price at $2,800.00

    Do these things signal an end to the bull run?

    What do you look for finance mags?
    cash is king
    how much is stuffed into your mattress?

    look at the "commercial real estate crash" hype that media fed to you for two years
    all you heard about is how it's going to crash and shits going to hit the fan
    whose paying attention now? Did that crash happen?

    sure did and plenty of people sitting on the sidelines are happily and quietly paying nickels on the dollar and swooping up distressed as well as prime commercial property
    I follow the denver commercial market and it's hilarious what people are paying

    same with the stock maket and other investments
    sit on some cash and wait for a bargin

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    I think the first year of Trump's term will be good for the markets. Then reality will set in and the market will be mostly stagnant until he's gone.

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    ^^^ I think you are correct however reality could set in and be a lot more painful than merely stagnant.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

    "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

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