If only there was something we could do...

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https://www.oregonlive.com/clark-cou...r-suicide.html

[Meadow Skipper]

So, more good guys with guns? Better mental illness remediation? Price of freedumb? Help me out here - what do we need?

Double mass shootings over weekend set grim U.S. record

In less than 90 minutes on Sunday afternoon, two 911 calls led police in Texas and Washington to two mass shootings that pushed the nation to a gruesome milestone.
They were the 37th and 38th shootings this year in which four or more victims were killed, the highest number of mass killings in any year since at least 2006. Last year’s 36 was the previous record.

[skaredshtles]

Definitely going to need more good guys with guns... [emoji849]

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/shoo...jured-homicide

[m2711c]

[Bunion 2020]

From todays WAPO

The earsplitting, heart-stopping roar of fully automatic weapons hasn’t been often heard on America’s streets since Congress largely outlawed them in 1934. But now it’s back, owing to a small device that is easily plugged into certain handguns and rifles, converting semiautomatic firearms into guns capable of firing 20 bullets in one second — with one pull of the trigger.

In Sacramento last year, a handgun converted into a machine gun was used during a gun battle that left six dead, in what has been called Sacramento’s deadliest mass shooting. In Minneapolis, eight people were wounded in August amid a spray of 40 bullets fired in just seconds. In 2021, a Houston police officer was killed and another wounded by a suspect with a pistol equipped with the device.

And in D.C.’s NoMa neighborhood in August last year, a drug dealer who was shot at returned fire with 24 shots in one burst along North Capitol Street, authorities said. His target, a car that had been used in a drive-by shooting, sped away, while two people were wounded, according to court records.

“It’s incredibly scary,” said Matthew M. Graves, the District’s U.S. attorney, citing the rising number of conversion devices found in the city in recent years. There were 27 guns recovered with the devices in 2021. The number rose to 119 last year, and, as of late October, the number was more than 150, Graves said. Police often find extended magazines attached to the guns, to hold more than the standard 12 or 13 bullets contained in most magazines, and they have even seized round drum magazines, which can hold 50 or more bullets.

“We have no shortage, unfortunately, of crime scenes where we have strong reason to believe, based on the number of rounds expended, that one of these devices was used,” Graves said. Local and federal authorities could not provide any examples of a converted automatic weapon causing any woundings or deaths in the District so far.

The devices have many names: Switch. Giggle switch. Sear. Auto sear. Conversion device. Glock switch (some of which have Glock’s logo fraudulently printed on them). Even though they are small — switches for pistols are about the size of a playing die — and don’t themselves contain bullets, the devices are considered machine guns by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said Craig B. Kailimai, special agent in charge of ATF’s Washington field division.
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“That would be illegal,” he said. “The device itself.”

The devices can be made of metal or plastic, and authorities believe some are imported from China and sold on the streets. But 3D printers also have been used to make both the square-shaped switch for pistols and an S-shaped device that slides into guns such as the AR-15 to convert them to fully automatic, Kailimai said. The printing process takes about 45 minutes.

Under some circumstances, civilians can legally purchase automatic weapons. The conversion switches for both semiautomatic handguns and rifles also can be purchased legally under certain conditions. Both the American military and law enforcement have uses for automatic weapons, so law enforcement officials cannot approach gun manufacturers and ask them to stop making guns that can be easily converted, Kailimai said. Glock officials have said they cannot change the design of their pistol to foil the switches.
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The ATF said it recovered more than 5,400 illegal switches between 2017 and 2021, a 570 percent increase from the preceding five years. In both pistols and rifles, the switch works by blocking the mechanism in the gun that requires a trigger pull before each shot. With a switch in place, one trigger pull can fire the weapon until it is out of ammunition.

“I think they’ve been understudied. We don’t have a lot of great data,” said Daniel Webster, a professor at the Johns Hopkins University Center for Gun Violence Solutions. “But it’s relatively intuitive, something that creates the equivalent of an automatic weapon is going to get a lot more bullets flying in an incredibly short amount of time,” striking more targets and reducing the amount of time people have to escape drive-by or mass shootings, Webster said. He said that makes the device more attractive to mass shooters and criminal street crews.

Webster said legislators should enact higher penalties for possession of the switches, prosecutors should seek those penalties, and judges should impose them

“It’s the functional equivalent of an automatic weapon,” he said. “Who among the law-abiding gun ownership crowd wants to argue that these are fundamental to their Second Amendment rights?” Webster said that “law enforcement should make it clear that federal law on firearms should apply to every weapon that has a switch.” He said prosecutors who have reduced prosecutions for gun possession in urban areas should make exceptions for guns with switches attached.

Graves agreed. “They’re basically being treated the same in our criminal justice system as the firearms that don’t have these devices there,” he said. He noted that D.C. Council member Brooke Pinto (D-Ward 2) proposed legislation “adding a separate penalty for possessing a machine gun and using a machine gun in a crime, which we think is incredibly important. We need to increase the penalties.”
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Pinto said in an email that she has worked with Graves to address violent crime in the District and is pushing a bill that would “increase the maximum penalties for individuals firing a large number of bullets at a time, and requiring that sentences for possession of extremely dangerous weapons, like machine guns, be stacked on top of baseline penalties, rather than running concurrently.” She said the D.C. Council’s judiciary and public safety committee held a hearing this month on a bill with these provisions “aimed at the small number of offenders engaged in most of the violent crime.”

D.C. police and federal agents have seized guns with switches while executing search warrants for drugs, in traffic stops after chases, and after arrests for robberies and carjackings. This month, the U.S. Capitol Police tried to pull over a stolen car that took off and crashed into a barricade. Officers then found a gun with a 22-round extended magazine in the car and another gun with a switch near where a passenger was arrested.

No woundings or homicides have been linked to the switch in the D.C. area. But in Houston, Officer William Jeffrey was shot and killed by a man firing an automatic handgun in October 2021, and three officers were wounded by another switch-equipped gun in January 2022.

“There is absolutely no reason or no room for our suspects to be armed like this,” Houston Police Chief Troy Finner said at a news conference. He showed body-camera footage of the fatal shooting of Jeffrey. “This is a threat that is here, and it’s a threat to everybody — law enforcement and citizens in every neighborhood in our community.”

[byates1]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TerrifyingAsFuck/s/FlOtH6c3Y6

You don't have your switch yo?

[k2skier112]

You are also the one who wanted to post dead kids. Don't feel the same about dead shooters apparently. Odd.

Im suprised all of you are so worked up about dead, white, Christians. Not really your crowd.

43 posts on 3-28-23

Is BS in jail for drugs and guns violations, or did he just flip out and leave? Banned?

[seano732]

Mass shooter at UNLV right now. Initial reports 28 shot:
https://x.com/intelfrombrian/status/...4lGhgLYsrm4qDQ

[Ted Striker]

Last night someone killed six people in TX, but in light of today's events it's not even news.

[up an down]

Last night someone killed six people in TX, but in light of today's events it's not even news.

And today we find out once again people who get murdered in Las Vegas stay in Las Vegas

[seano732]

Keeping it classy, eh dipshit?

[SumJongGuy]

Better stop those trans folks from competing with and reading books to other kids..

[muted reborn]

Mass shooter at UNLV right now. Initial reports 28 shot:
https://x.com/intelfrombrian/status/...4lGhgLYsrm4qDQ

Doesn't someone here work as staff for UNLV or is it a different school in LV? Only staff members were shot.

[riser4]

Doesn't someone here work as staff for UNLV or is it a different school in LV? Only staff members were shot.

MarcusBrody is a professor in the LV area. Not sure if it's UNLV.

[SumJongGuy]

43 posts on 3-28-23

Is BS in jail for drugs and guns violations, or did he just flip out and leave? Banned?

Most of us are really only a few really bad breaks from flipping out (spouse cheating, kid killed, fired out of the blue, etc). Some of us will do tragic and permanent things at that point..

Or he ran away on a romantic escapade with Benny.. on a buffalo

[SumJongGuy]

Speaking of maggots in the throes of addiction who shouldn't have guns, anyone heard from MTT lately?

[NW_SKIER]

Speaking of maggots in the throes of addiction who shouldn't have guns, anyone heard from MTT lately?

This type of post is unnecessary. It only comes across as you being an asshole.

[riser4]

This type of post is unnecessary. It only comes across as you being an asshole.

See, I took it the opposite. As kooky as he is, he is one of us and I do care if he's doing alright. SJG isn't wrong in his statement. MTT has demonstrated an alcohol addiction and posted suicidal ideations along with evidence he has guns. I hope he's alright.

[skaredshtles]

Looks like even The Onion has given up on reporting new mass shootings. That's probably not a good sign...

https://www.theonion.com/search?blog...=1702076349503

[SumJongGuy]

Speaking of maggots in the throes of addiction who shouldn't have guns, anyone heard from MTT lately?

This type of post is unnecessary. It only comes across as you being an asshole.

Oh how do you disagree with any of those sentiments? Do you think he should have guns? Do you think he's stable? Do you not worry about him, especially when he goes radio silent? Please elaborate.

The whole fucking point of this thread is that there are many reasons exactly like this why gun ownership needs a much higher bar. And that citizens should be able to remove firearms from the homes of people exactly line MTT and BS based on their publicly posted firearm antics.

[k2skier112]

@ 7:12

[riser4]

Mass shooter at UNLV right now. Initial reports 28 shot:
https://x.com/intelfrombrian/status/...4lGhgLYsrm4qDQ

Doesn't someone here work as staff for UNLV or is it a different school in LV? Only staff members were shot.

MarcusBrody is a professor in the LV area. Not sure if it's UNLV.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/08/us/un...day/index.html

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Oh how do you disagree with any of those sentiments? Do you think he should have guns? Do you think he's stable? Do you not worry about him, especially when he goes radio silent? Please elaborate.

The whole fucking point of this thread is that there are many reasons exactly like this why gun ownership needs a much higher bar. And that citizens should be able to remove firearms from the homes of people exactly line MTT and BS based on their publicly posted firearm antics.

He posted a couple days ago, before you made that post you could have checked that if you were really worried. Maybe shoot him a PM if you’re concerned. No amount of backpedaling and justification will change that.


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[SumJongGuy]

He posted a couple days ago, before you made that post you could have checked that if you were really worried. Maybe shoot him a PM if you’re concerned. No amount of backpedaling and justification will change that.


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There will be no backpeddling on my position that nobody adducted to alcohol or anything else mood altering should be allowed to own a firearm, much less carry it in public. If, or when they snap, I won't have to back peddle on wishing we could have or SHOULD have done something. When anyone posts in the threads designated for help with those depression and addiction ailments we're plenty responsive and supportive.

Pretending this shit ain't a problem and LACK OF gun laws are making it way more fatal than it needs to be is more of a problem than some tough love here and there

[MagnificentUnicorn]

There will be no backpeddling on my position that nobody adducted to alcohol or anything else mood altering should be allowed to own a firearm, much less carry it in public. If, or when they snap, I won't have to back peddle on wishing we could have or SHOULD have done something. When anyone posts in the threads designated for help with those depression and addiction ailments we're plenty responsive and supportive.

Pretending this shit ain't a problem and LACK OF gun laws are making it way more fatal than it needs to be is more of a problem than some tough love here and there

Come on dude, you were taking a jab at the guy, it makes you look like an asshole like NWskier posted. We all know this, own it. You’re not concerned about MTTs well being.


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