23/24 Gear Rumors

[Climber Joe]

Don’t know if they’ve been mentioned in here, but I demoed the 2024 Nordica spitfire and steadfast and ordered the steadfast for work. It’s got two cores stacked on top of each other with a sheet of metal and rubber in the middle, so there’s a sheet of metal that splits the sidewall too.

Looks wonky, skis amazing.

[CHAIR_97]

The topsheet certainly is, but they say the Reckoner returns unchanged for 23/24 and this does not look like the Reckoner 122 shape. Also there was hex titanal in them if you zoom in on the photos

That's the Crazy Karl pro model proto

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[lrn2swim]

The topsheet certainly is, but they say the Reckoner returns unchanged for 23/24 and this does not look like the Reckoner 122 shape. Also there was hex titanal in them if you zoom in on the photos

Ahhhhh, I thought the rocker looked a bit much. Interested to see what these turn out to be, don't think they're the Crescendo.

https://youtu.be/DAOGbvvVaMc

[skisurfmirth]

Don’t know if they’ve been mentioned in here, but I demoed the 2024 Nordica spitfire and steadfast and ordered the steadfast for work. It’s got two cores stacked on top of each other with a sheet of metal and rubber in the middle, so there’s a sheet of metal that splits the sidewall too.

Looks wonky, skis amazing.

That’s some pretty wild tech. I looked at the work book on issuu and they make 3 different versions. The one you showed, one with metal top and bottom sheet and rubber in between the cores and one with no metal, just rubber. I wonder if it works well in the carving skis if they will try it in wider platforms?

[XavierD]

Hmmm, wonder what the suits at K2 think about them rolling with pivots on their shiny new protos?

Might want to figure out why so many of their employees ski boots that don’t say K2 first..:

[Climber Joe]

That’s some pretty wild tech. I looked at the work book on issuu and they make 3 different versions. The one you showed, one with metal top and bottom sheet and rubber in between the cores and one with no metal, just rubber. I wonder if it works well in the carving skis if they will try it in wider platforms?

Yeah I only tried the triple metal version, I am going to use them as my new teach/train/poodle ski. The reason I went with the steadfast instead of the spitfire was 2 reasons:

1: they’re 85 underfoot, but full nerd ski design. I ski in Montana snow, I don’t need an ice skate, and don’t wanna boot out on soft groomers.

2: the metal is tapered out at the tip and tail, so they’re able to wash out if you go too far forward or backward, either on purpose or accident. That seems nice and versatile, yet also a little forgiving in funky snow. I tried to out ski them and couldn’t as long as I was centered. PLUS if I wasn’t centered, the tip or tail would slip, so it’s kind of a feedback tool on balance.

[Climber Joe]

Now that I’m thinking about it, I wonder what the unleashed would feel like if it had the 1 middle layer of metal and rubber, compared to current construction.

[waxman]

Don’t know if they’ve been mentioned in here, but I demoed the 2024 Nordica spitfire and steadfast and ordered the steadfast for work. It’s got two cores stacked on top of each other with a sheet of metal and rubber in the middle, so there’s a sheet of metal that splits the sidewall too.

Looks wonky, skis amazing.

you'd think they'd take the time to smooth the sidewalls out?

[turnfarmer]

Pretty sure Atomic used a similar construction to the Nordica middle metal layer way back in time. IIRC they called it Bionic.

[SupreChicken]

As far as light (1100-1300ish g) but fairly stiff touring boots, what all is coming out next year? Not much that I'm aware of. The Atomic Backland XTD is the big one, there will be a stiffer version of the Fischer Transalp, the Scarpa F1 XT will be available in the US I think, Dynafit Tigard is heavier. Anything else?

To me for downhill performance to weight ratio, zero g tour pro still reigns supreme…

[rod9301]

That's because you haven't tried the hoji 130. Skis better, heavier but tours better

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[nickwm21]

Delam city


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[Lord Thomas]

Anybody have any info on the new 50/50 boot from Nordica? I'm in the market for something like an XT3 except without the janky walk mode connection

[WhetherMan]

To me for downhill performance to weight ratio, zero g tour pro still reigns supreme…

The scarpa quattro probably has it beat. If it fits you. Feedback has been that it skis and walks better, which I agree with. Weighs very close to the same depending on size. Impressive because I'm with you, the zero g is a fantastic boot.

[wilcox510]

Too bad the Quattro has a Gripwalk sole instead of a real AT sole. I guess I’m unsure how much of an issue that is, 90% of time I’m skinning, but I hate to have the sole be a liability when I am booting and scrambling in sketchy terrain.

The scarpa quattro probably has it beat. If it fits you. Feedback has been that it skis and walks better, which I agree with. Weighs very close to the same depending on size. Impressive because I'm with you, the zero g is a fantastic boot.

[rfconroy]

New topsheet on the Hoji for next year?

[Beder]

saw some new k2s a little while back…

Call it The Nimrod.
Did homie pull his pant legs up so everybody could see his boots are boa?

[PinyonJuniper5]

Too bad the Quattro has a Gripwalk sole instead of a real AT sole. I guess I’m unsure how much of an issue that is, 90% of time I’m skinning, but I hate to have the sole be a liability when I am booting and scrambling in sketchy terrain.

As a Quattro owner, I haven’t had any issues with the GW sole at all. It does feel kind of “weird” but I‘be never thought it was unstable or made for bad footing. IDK if I’d want to climb 5th class in them, but I don’t really want to do that in any ski boot.


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[Gustavar]

New topsheet on the Hoji for next year?

Pretty sure that’s a previous year’s Renegade, I think 2019-2020

[funkendrenchman]

Anyone get a chance to try on the Nordica Unlimited 130?

Hoping for another low volume touring option with a nice heel pocket.

[Lord Thomas]

Anyone get a chance to try on the Nordica Unlimited 130?

Hoping for another low volume touring option with a nice heel pocket.

THIS. I talked to the Nordica reps yesterday at the Mission demo and they didn't have much information on them. Seems like these have largely gone unnoticed by this collective

[Sylvan]

Also curious about the new Dobies. P. 46-49 below.

https://issuu.com/nordica_northameri...rkbook_digital

Edit to add: The 96 last specifically; looks like more competition for the Lange RS 140, etc.

[NorCalNomad]

That's because you haven't tried the hoji 130. Skis better, heavier but tours better

Shame the last on those things isn't great unless you have the exact foot shape that works with them.

[Lord Thomas]

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Straight from the Marker rep. 480 grams with brakes, uses alpenis toe and back has (pretty sure I heard this right) the KP heei hole pattern. Aimed right at ZED

[Eluder]

Straight from the Marker rep. 480 grams with brakes, uses alpenis toe and back has (pretty sure I heard this right) the KP heei hole pattern. Aimed right at ZED

Hmm, a little heavier than I hoped.