Canada Closed until US Gets Covid 19 Under Control

[grinch]

Superspreaderfest '21

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[rideit]

Wife and kiddo leave Tuesday.
But both already had it, recovered, and are double vaxxed, so less risk than most Canadians.
They are traveling with a goalie bag, a sweet toque, and kiddo has a Bauer Ice jacket, he will fit right in.
Soory.

[ex-powderbroker]

make sure all of that arrive can shit is set up right, whatever that means

[yeahman]

Good luck Canada.

[The AD]

Wife and kiddo leave Tuesday.
But both already had it, recovered, and are double vaxxed, so less risk than most Canadians.
They are traveling with a goalie bag, a sweet toque, and kiddo has a Bauer Ice jacket, he will fit right in.
Soory.

How long will they be in Canada? I'm curious what their quarantine plan is. I'm still trying to determine if driving back to the U.S. would be considered a valid plan.

[paulster2626]

Do you still need to produce a negative test to enter the USA and Canada if you are vaccinated?

[The AD]

Do you still need to produce a negative test to enter the USA and Canada if you are vaccinated?

You definitely do to enter Canada from the US. Needs to be from within 72 hours of entering. I believe going from Canada to the US it's only required for air travel.

[Ted Striker]

Living near the border line, the universal dream
For those who wish to ski
Those from TRG
Must put aside the alienation
Get on with the vaccination
To prevent mutation, the underlying theme

[powdork]

^nice

[The AD]

Neil would approve.

[rideit]

I believe there is no quarantine if you have proof of vaccination and a negative test.

[The AD]

I believe there is no quarantine if you have proof of vaccination and a negative test.

However you still need to submit your quarantine plan in the ArriveCAN app. Has your wife submitted info to the app yet? Apparently that's where ml242's folks ran afoul, so make sure they dot their i's and cross their t's!
https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/tr...Hlw#vaccinated

[DanoT]

I believe there is no quarantine if you have proof of vaccination and a negative test.

Tomorrow I am going to get my Vaccination Card photocopied and plastic laminated.

[toast2266]

However you still need to submit your quarantine plan in the ArriveCAN app. Has your wife submitted info to the app yet? Apparently that's where ml242's folks ran afoul, so make sure they dot their i's and cross their t's!
https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/tr...Hlw#vaccinated

Canada's travel website is a case study in providing as little actual information as possible, but in the most long winded, confusing way imaginable.

[Ted Striker]

Canada's travel website is a case study in providing as little actual information as possible, but in the most long winded, confusing way imaginable.

That's Canadian government SOP. A long tradition handed down from the Brits.

[The AD]

Canada's travel website is a case study in providing as little actual information as possible, but in the most long winded, confusing way imaginable.

The other issue is that the ArriveCAN app won't let you proceed unless you're within 72 hours of your trip, so I can't even get in to see what questions I'll be asked and what information I'll need to provide. For example, if my quarantine plan is a hotel do I just need to provide what hotel I'd stay at or do I actually need proof that I have a hotel booking? I'm certainly not real excited to book a 14 night hotel stay on the more or less zero chance that I'll actually use it.

[grinch]

I was trying to go to sturgis. Turns out im not allowed. Pisser

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[DanoT]

The other issue is that the ArriveCAN app won't let you proceed unless you're within 72 hours of your trip, so I can't even get in to see what questions I'll be asked and what information I'll need to provide. For example, if my quarantine plan is a hotel do I just need to provide what hotel I'd stay at or do I actually need proof that I have a hotel booking? I'm certainly not real excited to book a 14 night hotel stay on the more or less zero chance that I'll actually use it.

Can't you just lie about your trip dates and then once you get the info, cancel the trip?

[ex-powderbroker]

my poor parents are sticking it out in quarantine. they don't want to drive to plattsburgh just to wait another day or three to get yet another PCR test to turn around and then be told they have to go back to quarantine or that they did something wrong.

I am really not sure what is up with the Arrive Canada app, but the border people really suck and no one will take any responsibility for anything. Finding the rules that have changed on 7/5 is pretty hard and the links seem to go to the new policy from 8/9, so it's not a completely easy task. Explaining that stuff to a border person that is pissed off and doesn't have to suffer the consequences though.... impossible.
The people on the phone say that the border people have the final say, but they didn't follow the rules. I'm scratching my head anyway. i saved the guidelines here if this helps anyone: https://archive.is/1lh4W

We are all American btw...

[toast2266]

The other issue is that the ArriveCAN app won't let you proceed unless you're within 72 hours of your trip, so I can't even get in to see what questions I'll be asked and what information I'll need to provide. For example, if my quarantine plan is a hotel do I just need to provide what hotel I'd stay at or do I actually need proof that I have a hotel booking? I'm certainly not real excited to book a 14 night hotel stay on the more or less zero chance that I'll actually use it.

Yeah, it's a mess. We're planning on going camping labor day weekend, but I'm not sure if my camper is a viable quarantine plan. We'll also only be about 45 minutes from the border, so really if I need to quarantine, I'd rather just drive home. But it's not clear if that's allowed either.

And we'll be bringing our kids (who are too young to be vaccinated). The official website doesn't have any information about if they're allowed or what needs to be done with them. Non-official sites say they need to be tested before arrival and on day 1, but I can't find official confirmation of that.

[The AD]

Can't you just lie about your trip dates and then once you get the info, cancel the trip?

That could certainly be done, but not sure I'd be willing to take that chance. I could also just cancel once I get through the border, but I'd likely have to pay for one night since it would be cancelling within 24 hours.

[ex-powderbroker]

YWe'll also only be about 45 minutes from the border, so really if I need to quarantine, I'd rather just drive home. But it's not clear if that's allowed either.

Exception — leaving Canada

8 A person who must quarantine themselves under section 3 or remain in quarantine under section 4 may leave Canada before the expiry of the 14-day quarantine period if they quarantine themselves until they depart from Canada.

[toast2266]

Exception — leaving Canada

8 A person who must quarantine themselves under section 3 or remain in quarantine under section 4 may leave Canada before the expiry of the 14-day quarantine period if they quarantine themselves until they depart from Canada.

Excellent. That's at least good news.

[grinch]

I wonder how the current admittance to canada compares to the admittabce for the tokyo olympics?
Canada had zero covid cases in tokyo. Would US applicants to tokyo be the same/similar demographic as applicants to canada?

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[josef]

Just had a buddy clear customs in 30 minutes. Had to land in Vancouver to clear customs rather than Victoria. Other than that it was smooth sailing.