Camber size differs on left and right ski. Problem?

[ququba]

Hi,

Bought new pair of Dynastar 6th Sense Huge.
This is is rocker-camber-rocker ski.
Looking at them I noticed twise bigger camber on left ski comparing to right (about 3-4 milimeters):
http://clip2net.com/s/266aT
http://clip2net.com/s/266bc

Is is manufacture defect or acceptable difference?
This supposed to be my charging ski, but I suspect left and right ski will behave differently, and this can lead to unpleasant consequences.

[jfost]

is your home mountain biased toward one side of turns? Could be a non-issue if that's the case...

[gregL]

I doubt it will make any difference, and the disparity may disappear after you ski them.

No two skis are exactly the same in flex or camber anyway - they typically just pick two that are close to form a pair and then put the serial # on.

[Chowda]

I never find small variations between skis affect my skiing. Skiing, for me, is dynamic and more about making changes to body position and pressure relative to what I'm doing at any one moment, so it's no big deal if a mount is off 1cm or whatever.

That said, the more exotic the shape, the more difficult it is to predict the effect. The difference 1mm will make over 180cm vs over 100cm is not the same. Then add the core profile and materials to the mix and it could be a problem.

If it is bothering you now, see what your options are with the retailer and dynastar. In any case, you'll meet much more resistance once you put holes in them, so "ski them first" isn't the best advise IMO.

If you're stuck with them, then land a few drops in powder and hit a few bump lines before passing judgement. They will likely relax a fair bit.

[stuckathuntermtn]

1. Hand flex them really hard and see if that does anything as the wood starts to break in.
2. Go skiing and not notice anyway.
3. profit? or maybe wear 3 helmet cams and a climbing harness and prophet.

[ququba]

Thanks for answers, I just noticed one more strange thing.
Is this product id? They differs... Barcode is same.

http://clip2net.com/s/26ejs
http://clip2net.com/s/26ejE

Asked seller if this is the case.

[WyoWill]

If you bought these new, at full retail, you should return them and ask for another pair that is matching. I have a pair of original gotamas with a similar issue--one has almost no camber and other has 5mm or so--and I can't tell the difference, but my gotamas are old as shit and I didn't pay retail for them.

[GeezerSteve]

Eyeballing camber on an unloaded ski is not a meaningful indication of how the skis will perform when loaded. You could get a better indication of things if you suspend the ski between two points at each end of the cambered area, load each ski with the same amount of weight and then measure. As Greg and stuck say, camber will likely change somewhat after some hard flexing and/or use.

[Hugh Conway]

3-4mm? I love it when douchebags with shitty measuring technique bitch about small differences. Fucking retards, like the dude from ak suggesting your return them. If you return them tell them you don't like the graphics, it's at least honest.

[Buster Highmen]

I always perform better loaded.

[jfost]

can't believe nobody said anything about my left/right turns comment?!?

is this thing on!???

[ququba]

This is exactly what I'm afraid of.
If one ski has very little camber (say it's flat camber) and another has noticeable camber - skis will behave different.
Have not had a chance to load ski and see how it behaves then though.

Meanwhile, asked seller if product ID is same and why last letter differs.

[Hugh Conway]

This is exactly what I'm afraid of.

sarcasm? it's fucking deadly

[ququba]

No, absolutely serious.
This is my first almost flat ski, my current ski has huge camber and I don't mind if there are any 5mm differences in it.
But have no idea how flat camber ski behaves comparing to cambered one, that's why started this thread.
And thanks, I read your opinion, and as most of members here say it does not matter in my case - I go for it.
But still, will wait for seller answer with product ids

[El Chupacabra]

is your home mountain biased toward one side of turns? Could be a non-issue if that's the case...

Mt. Nascar?

[Kied]

This is exactly what I'm afraid of.
If one ski has very little camber (say it's flat camber) and another has noticeable camber - skis will behave different.
Have not had a chance to load ski and see how it behaves then though.

Meanwhile, asked seller if product ID is same and why last letter differs.

It's all mostly been mentioned. Just to give you an idea, most manufactures have someone match skis w/ camber and flex as best they can, but seldom are they identical. That said, "product ID's" have nothing to do with it. What matters is the serial number. If you have mismatched serial numbers than you wound up with a pair that was not matched or intended to match. In that case you should return to the store and see if they have the match. Otherwise just ski them...unless you're on a National Team you won't notice a difference. Promise.

[ququba]

Ok, that said I mount sth 14 driver on skis and wait for snow.
Thanks for all your answers, wish you lot of pow upcoming season

[WyoWill]

3-4mm? I love it when douchebags with shitty measuring technique bitch about small differences. Fucking retards, like the dude from ak suggesting your return them. If you return them tell them you don't like the graphics, it's at least honest.

Hey, if the guy paid full retail then it's reasonable to expect the skis to be without blemish--no matter how minor.

[jfost]

Mt. Nascar?

thanks! I was going to throw out a couple of ridiculous "left&right" mountains, like Whistler = right turns, Blackcomb = left, but I thought I'd go subtle...

[JohnnyDomination]

My brother bought a pair of six senses. Brand new for dirt cheap. I noticed the same camber issue. However after a few hard hand flexes they seemed to match. IMO once you ski them the camber will probably even out.

They're probably just made on different presses and thus have different molds. Everything that is duplicated will have tolerances and I doubt ski companies have weapons grade, $20million molds to press skis they sell for a couple hundred bones.

[Hugh Conway]

Hey, if the guy paid full retail then it's reasonable to expect the skis to be without blemish--no matter how minor.

So what's an acceptable deviation in camber on skis WyoWill? Do they have to match "perfectly"?

[vtrider]

Thanks for answers, I just noticed one more strange thing.
Is this product id? They differs... Barcode is same.

http://clip2net.com/s/26ejs
http://clip2net.com/s/26ejE

Asked seller if this is the case.

DA1MC01 is the product code for the ski - D_Dynastar - A_Alpine Ski - 1_Model year (2011) MC_Model Code - 01_Version
MC01G and MC01D indicated a left graphic and a right graphic, so when a factory worker who does not know the product like the back of his hand can pick a left and right ski and match up a correct pair, thus not sending the consumer a "pair" of left graphic'ed skis.

As far the the camber difference goes, flex both pair first, my best is one ski sat on the end of a ski rack and a bunch of idiots at a shop flexed the shit out of a single ski...

[DeepHelmet]

If you notice a difference, then you are a god. Seriously.


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