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10-11-2018, 07:22 PM #76
Coincidentally, I have a Monarch Plus RC3, just overhauled by Dirtlabs, that I will be selling as soon as I get photos taken and details posted. It is the right size for a gen 1 or 2 Bronson - 200mm x 57mm. I have no idea if it's the correct tune - it is Medium/Medium. It worked well on my Reign.
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10-11-2018, 07:39 PM #77Registered User
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I hear not only are they are only making 20% on a Yeti it comes un assembled so they gotta pay the mechanic to put it all all together so the high priced stuff may not be as big a money maker as the cheaper brands so if you wana make money ... sell Giants
new bikes have new geometry and at some point the new parts make a generational leap in quality and operation
which is why I say OP should ride some and see if one speaks to him which is different than listening to a buncha fucking dentists geeking on a BBLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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10-11-2018, 08:11 PM #78
I’m not home right now so can’t check mine, but I think m/m is fine for normal sized riders ... the e-opinion majority seems to be lighter Bronson riders will do better with medium/low or low/low.
But again, that needle bearing kit will change so much ... I actually got a few chain drops after installing it because my suspension was so much more active and free for chainstay length to change acceleration of growth/shrinkage so much more quickly._______________________________________________
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I'll be there." ... Andy Campbell
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10-11-2018, 08:14 PM #79
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10-11-2018, 08:33 PM #80
Zactly. Had this dentist said, I want longer, lower slacker and I have money to light on fire I’d have said go all out.
But he said he wants a plush descending right that doesn’t drag on the uphill, and guess what, a tricked out Bronson v1 CC with that build is one of the lighter climbing 150mm bikes you can build! The newer bikes with wider through axles, wider rims, big tires and longer frames are gonna be heavier than the 2015 Bronson CC with Enve wheels.
And while there are plusher descending options like a Capra or Nomad, I’m guessing this entire thread is based around an improper CCDB tune or a busted shock.
Also, the Pike isn’t the plushest thing ever but a properly maintained and tuned 2015 Pike should still be regarded as very good but missing “x” ... not, “not plush.”_______________________________________________
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I'll be there." ... Andy Campbell
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10-11-2018, 08:47 PM #81
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10-11-2018, 08:50 PM #82
You could just throw on one of those garbaruk 10-46 cassettes(quality control seems to be a bit better than the e13) and a works components headset(I like 65 or 65.5 degree head angle on my trail bike). I have 28t ring with 11-46 on my scout and I’m rarely wishing I had a 9 or 10 on my cassette. I have a 26 x 10-42 on my free ride bike and I wouldn’t mind a 30 or 32 x 10-50 for hitting some of the bigger jumps that need speed, but so far that’s it.
Those years of Santa Cruz don’t fit me at all. Short top tube and longer chainstays is opposite of what my long torso short leg length fit. Something to consider. Love the fit of my scout. My rune has a touch shortertop tube, lil higher B.B., lil longer chain stay and not as much stand over. No comparison for fit , feel and fun between the two(for me). A few different measurements can make a dif. 5 or 6 different measurements is considerable, even when each measurement is a huge difference
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10-11-2018, 09:22 PM #83
Competitive Cyclist set up mine with an L/L Monarch Plus. But I also weigh 140 lbs with pack, and this was a custom build ... But I can’t remember if they customized the shock or if that’s what SC gave them to clear out the frames when the Bronson 2 came out. I had a lot of back and forth with CC on the build specs.
Sure, the OP’s bike is not obsolete, I agree. That doesn’t mean there aren’t better matched frames out there to suit him or that updated geo won’t make a big difference - it may or may not depending on the rider and application.
I think almost everyone here agrees though the reported symptoms indicate that he should debug his current setup before abandoning to another choice. Again, unless he has absolute stupid cash to burn, in which case someone here should made a killing buying the OP’s shitty obsolete bike from him at cents on the dollar ..._______________________________________________
"Strapping myself to a sitski built with 30lb of metal and fibreglass then trying to water ski in it sounds like a stupid idea to me.
I'll be there." ... Andy Campbell
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10-11-2018, 09:32 PM #84
His bike could be a perfect fit , without knowing his dimensions . I’d still want a taller gear and slacker ha regardless. Wouldn’t want to slacken the sa any so the works headset is better than offset bushings or shorter e2e shocks
I didn’t vary my cc double barrel much from recommended(I think a touch more rebound was my personal pref). I really like the cc dB coil . The air not quite as much. For air I preferred the rs and/or fox
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10-12-2018, 08:04 AM #85
Bronson 1 you really want a L/L to be plush on the descents, especially based on his comments on it not being plush right now.... but the tune can be changed pretty easily. I (185 lbs) tried a M/L and it was too lively and stiff and had the tune changed by Squish Dynamics in Oregon to the L/L. Night and Day better with the L/L.
Then put some volume spacers in and run more sag for an even plusher feel.
This is a RS Monarch Plus Debonair - I love this shock on the Bronson and it's cheap/available and easy to service. I had a CC DB Inline and just could never get it right, and it never lasted a full season and is expensive to service.
Also, 160mm Pike up front changed my life. Makes it a much, much better descender and doesn't really affect the climbing. Also, volume spacers in the Pike too.
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10-12-2018, 08:38 AM #86Banned
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"Going down to 10" is referring to the smallest cassette cog gearing. He thought he had 11T, but in all likelihood he has 10T already.
10-42t x 28t is virtually the same as 11-46t x 30t, btw.
Regardless, there are plenty of people running wide range 10spd still, including myself.
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10-12-2018, 08:48 AM #87
Thanks for the correction, I think that several other people previously made this observation also.
I'm also running wide range 10spd, but I'd trade for 11 or 12 if I had the opportunity.
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10-12-2018, 09:24 AM #88Skiing powder worldwide
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great info, thanks for the schooling. Ordered the RWC needle bearing kit , and talked to the shop and they are going to have the shock tuned at the service center. Having the pike overhauled and serviced as well.
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10-12-2018, 09:37 AM #89
I should have included this with my other comments about the v1 Bronson. I upgraded to a 160mm Pike, which does indeed make the bike more slack (I think by 1 degree?)... which is probably / maybe why the new v3 Bronson didn't seem all that much different to me. Totally agree that doing that made it feel like a completely new bike on descents. Whether or not the extended reach on the v3 is a good thing is personal preference, since we all have different body geometry regardless of riding the same size frame. Although it seems like most people tend to like it.
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10-12-2018, 09:39 AM #90
Awesome, hopefully you get to report back on findings before every fun trail is under snow. Getting the needle bearing kit plus reworking your fork and shock all at the same time is a lot of variables all at once. Best thing to do is probably hit up a small trail network with a short segment you can hit multiple times to try to dial in air pressure, compression and rebound settings. The needle bearing with the proper compression tune should allow you to feel comfy at 30% rear sag vs most people saying you need 35% on Bronson1 to feel plush. From what I recall the bike climbs so much better at 28-30% sag than at 35%. Lots of tuning variables that all affect each other, if you are overwhelmed then the best thing to do is to offer beer to ride with someone who knows suspension really well for a day and have them ask you questions after each trail segment. Lift served is great for this as well, if that’s still an option. I haven’t used that Cane Creek app, but I’m sure it will help!
Good luck, and if all else fails, you can still burn your cash on a new bike_______________________________________________
"Strapping myself to a sitski built with 30lb of metal and fibreglass then trying to water ski in it sounds like a stupid idea to me.
I'll be there." ... Andy Campbell
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10-12-2018, 09:44 AM #91Skiing powder worldwide
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10-12-2018, 10:06 AM #92
Also, when's the last time you replaced your pivot bearings? If you're going to do needle bearings on the shock, definitely make sure the pivot bearings are new.
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10-12-2018, 10:13 AM #93
This is something that I may try on my v1 tallboy also. The custom tune on my DPS treat shock sure helped but I find myself in the same spot - in order for it to feel plush it's a little softer than I like for climbing. When it is a little stiffer for climbing it loses its small bump compliance. Maybe the needle bearing kit would improve this.
Seth
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10-12-2018, 10:55 AM #94yelgatgab
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10-12-2018, 11:14 AM #95
I looked at that a while back. From what I read it sounded like you need to set it up with more sag and the it might not be a good fit for people who like a stiffer ride. I have a whopping 1.5" of shock travel and running more sag sounded like I would end up with less mid and deep travel itself. 100mm is small as it is, I can't imagine having less. :-)
With that in mind, I would be interested in hearing other interpretations of what the corset does. My interpretation is purely based on what I've read, not on actual hands on experience.
Seth
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10-12-2018, 11:35 AM #96
Another drivetrain suggestion would be to put on a 30t oval. You'll get a high gear back and the oval will definitely make steep stuff a little easier in the 42t.
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10-12-2018, 11:40 AM #97Banned
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The Corset is all hype/bling. Just add some volume spacers if you need a smaller air volume. Heck, Rockshox went to a larger air spring volume in it's rear shocks 4 years ago.
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10-12-2018, 12:15 PM #98
You seem pretty confident. Do you have one?
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10-12-2018, 01:09 PM #99yelgatgab
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No personal experience. Evol is the same idea, tweaking the negative volume to reduce the beginning travel spring rate. They talk about the VPP digressive-progressive LR on their site.
https://vorsprungsuspension.com/blog...-with-my-frameRemind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.
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10-12-2018, 01:33 PM #100
Unless I missed it...
I can't believe we've got this far without one "N+1!"
The answer to the bike (and ski) question is ALWAYS: N+1!It makes perfect sense...until you think about it.
I suspect there's logic behind the madness, but I'm too dumb to see it.
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