my parents did that ^^ with my niece and it was all very fucked up, my mother was a nasty old lady who pushed my father ... exactly what was the point of it all
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liv2ski--it sounds like your daughter is willing to be around your mother but not visa versa. Sounds like your mother is trying to make you choose between the two of them. I don't think you need to cut your mother out of your life but she shouldn't be allowed to decide when your daughter can be around. Your daughter shouldn't have to avoid being around you when your mom is around. If you invite your daughter and mom for an event I'd make it clear to each that the other would be there. If one or the other chooses not to attend so be it. If they both attend and one of them is being nasty, throw them out. If neither comes there's more food for you.
It sucks to be stuck in the middle between people you love or like or tolerate who don't get along with each other.
My granfather and his brother didn't talk for 50+ years. No one knew why. I'm not sure they did. Family estrangement is very sad. I can understand if there's physical or mental abuse or seriousl neglect but short of that we should grit our teeth and bear it.
My best friend is my cousin. We had words a few years ago. And stopped talking for a couple but thankfully he broke the ice first and we get along again. I'm not sure our relationship will ever be quite as close as it was but it beats not talking.
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Grandma should let it go. I’d point out that she apologized numerous times and ask her what more she expects or wants to make this right? Sometimes people who are bitching need to be asked for their “price”. If she sticks by her position then I think you are within your rights to not invite her over when the daughter will be there or not at all.
P.s. How much is Grandma worth? If she’s kicking 7 figures down a generation then she has a point and tell your daughter to keep groveling.
Tell them you love them, but you can't be around both of them at the same time.
They're each adults and should act like it. It's not your job to fix their problems even though it impacts you the most.
Since your mom sounds like she's being the most recalcitrant, I'd prioritize time with your daughter.
But don't banish your mom; find time for her too and let her know there would be more quality time if they could solve their problems.
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What the fuck did your mother say to get a 30 year old granddaughter to drop the f bomb.
Why the fuck didn't your 30 year old daughter know not to?
Keep them apart if you cant bring them back together.
Don't cut your mother out or threaten banishing her from your home.
nuance matters
age doesnt
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Thanks for the responses guys. I had a few good laughs and yes, my mom is an asshole and it kind of runs in the family, so I an going to go with Busters above suggestion so I am not one also, but I could be very easily as my mom is on my last nerve these days. Thanks for the 2 cents guys.
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My .02, estrangement sucks. Even a strained relationship is still better than none. My wife is completely estranged from her entire family, mentally ill mother with BPD turned the whole family against her. We have tried everything, inviting them to our kids events, etc. We don't hear a word. Our youngest child does not know a single member of the family, our older two know all of them and don't understand why they don't speak to us. It has been 10 years now. There is nothing normal about it. Holiday's are the worst time of year for my wife. I'd like to say it gets easier but so far it hasn't. I truly believe some sort of relationship would be better than nothing.
"A child can disown their parents, but parents can never disown their children."
Choice seems clear to me.
Family or not, you need to establish firm boundaries. If people can't abide by them, then good riddance.
I disowned my parents for over a decade. Then they went up and died and it landed on my lap because my only other living relative was busy. It was a tough couple of years. I don't regret my decision, nor my response, but I realize subconsciously that it has affected my relationships.
Switching gears, what's the story with the NHL this year? I have no clue what they're doing.
Yeesh. I gotta look up the answers to my own questions? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020–21_NHL_season
To be fair, it’s that odd time of year where you don’t quite know what day it is, what you’re supposed to be doing or what you’ve already done, so response times may be a bit slower than normal around here.
I still call it The Jake.
Here's a breakdown of everything we know regarding the NHL's now officially official return.
When does the NHL season start?
Training camp start date (seven non-bubble teams): Dec. 31
Training camp start date (remaining teams): Jan. 3
NHL season start date: Jan. 13
On Dec. 7, reports began to circulate that the NHL was putting a big, red-pencil circle around Jan. 13. Now that date can be circled with a big, fat red permanent marker.
The seven teams that did not compete in the 2020 postseason will get a few extra ice sessions as the majority of their players have not suited up since things shut down March 12. As for the remaining 24 teams, they'll open up trainig camp on Jan. 3.
It appears Connecticut still doesn't have a team
more here https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/...d1be12j11oli8b
oh I can dig - combine galaga, sitting down and cocktails?
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