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Thread: Release the Kraken???
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09-26-2022, 10:05 AM #151Registered User
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I learned today that your average TGR poster hasn't ever negotiated a contract.
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09-26-2022, 10:13 AM #152
This is how wars start.
"timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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09-26-2022, 10:13 AM #153
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09-26-2022, 10:14 AM #154
Oh, it starts out friendlier for sure! Outcome is often the same, though. I had countless times where people from different prominent local organizations would come to me in person asking for free stuff, again in exchange for minor credit or 'exposure.' I'd tell them I'd consider it and upon coming up with a reasonable counter-proposal, even as simple as a more prominent crediting (which is free for them), would get the same rejection followed by "kind regards."
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09-26-2022, 10:15 AM #155
This is kind of my point in a sense. This wasn’t Mangelsen, and there are thousands of people in Jackson that want to be the next one that put out scenes like this up for exposure.
Mangelsen probably did once or twice himself before he cornered the airport duty free landscape market.
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09-26-2022, 10:15 AM #156
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09-26-2022, 10:18 AM #157
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09-26-2022, 10:22 AM #158
This is probably correct, but it cuts both ways. If we just take that singular exchange between grizzle6 and the hotel it looks like a severe overreaction by grizzle6, but I'm sure it reflects the kind of thing grizzle6 has to deal with all the time and he boiled over a bit. And your second point is probably part of this. Rather than a legit attempt to reach out for his business it's a very flip attempt to get something for free and should be beneath a legitimate place of business like The Wort.
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09-26-2022, 10:36 AM #159
There are better ways the OP could have handled it than an angry wall of text? No shit. Even the OP agreed.; he admitted he snapped because he was so annoyed with them asking to use it for free (and they were the proverbial straw).
The problem all lies with the hotel, because they didn't start asking how much he charges or start with an actual monetary offer. They started asking a professional for free work. Had they lowballed ("can we use your photo, we can pay you $25") or even a simple open ended offer of "we want to use your photo, how much would you charge?", none of this would have happened. Heck, they could have used the same logic of "you will get lots of great marketing exposure" as justification for their low offer.
And the notion that he asked for $1400 in return is silly. As has been noted, that is high season rates, but also that is the rate they charge to earn them profit, it is not their cost. They could certainly have accepted his 2 night counter but limited it to low season times, and if he stayed there on a night they were not fully booked, the only "loss" they incur is their cost (housekeeping and the like), not any lost profit. And they would write it off so the loss would be even lower."fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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09-26-2022, 10:43 AM #160
A few take aways from this gem of a thread:
1. A lot of dentists on here, as clearly many folks have no idea how a business operates.
2. A lot of dentists think photography has no costs associated to it, and thus should be given away.
3. 9/10 dentists wouldn't give away a new set of veneers in exchange for exposure."All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring."
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09-26-2022, 10:46 AM #161
Dentists have some of the worst artwork in their offices. Mine bought his at a Ramada Inn art sale, I think.
I'd like to hear how Butters would compose the picture differently.
Perhaps having a set of ripples in the water from a skipped stone?"timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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09-26-2022, 10:56 AM #162
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09-26-2022, 11:04 AM #163
more dry drunk anger… sad.
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09-26-2022, 11:19 AM #164
I like buttah's band
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G8ZoFbNGpBcIt's a war of the mind and we're armed to the teeth.
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09-26-2022, 11:32 AM #165
Well he did write a 5 paragraph diatribe response then post a thread here and on Reddit. So maybe use a fraction of that effort differently?
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09-26-2022, 11:36 AM #166
Let he or she or it who has not overreacted on social media be the first to cast a 1000 word lecture on personal failures, seasoned with all the common epithets and worn out pejoratives.
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09-26-2022, 12:19 PM #167
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09-26-2022, 12:51 PM #168
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09-26-2022, 01:10 PM #169
This thread reminds me of that blue vs white dress thing years ago. Just imagine if a treadmill were involved.
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09-26-2022, 01:12 PM #170
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09-26-2022, 01:44 PM #171
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09-26-2022, 01:49 PM #172
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09-26-2022, 01:51 PM #173
It looks like I've got some light reading to do here.
Miss a day, miss a lot.I still call it The Jake.
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09-26-2022, 01:54 PM #174
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09-26-2022, 01:58 PM #175
Buttah has really been busy this last week.
Maybe some tea would help to calm things down a bit?I still call it The Jake.
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