I think the libs have media-induced amnesia

**Maurice Ballstein** · 10-30-2007, 12:08 PM

Here is a link that I am sure will result in some fireballs. Enjoy.

http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv

**MeatPuppet** · 10-30-2007, 06:10 PM

Wow, all those democrats really bought all of Bush's lies(BUSH LIED AND PEOPLE DIED!!!) hook, line, and sinker.

Do we really want people who are so gullible making decisions for us?

**Adolf Allerbush** · 10-30-2007, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Maurice Ballstein

Here is a link that I am sure will result in some fireballs. Enjoy.

http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv

Interesting way to spin it. Not sure if I really want any of the Repubes or Dems in power. Nevertheless I think it's far scarier to think of more of the same for the next 4-8 years.

Since you seem to be in support of Bush and Cheney I think a good thing for you to watch would be the Frontline on Cheney: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...art/h_vtop.gif

Very revealing about what that guy is really all about. The thing that your GOP vid doesn't mention is how Cheney manipulated Bush. I'm not saying I think this, but maybe Bush was fed the wrong info from Cheney with regards to Iraq and subsequently made the attack.

**Jer** · 10-30-2007, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Since you seem to be in support of Bush and Cheney .

That's right. 'Cause everybody who rips on how stupid the Dems are is automatically a Bush/Cheney worshipper. Adolph - your blind assumptions are priceless.

**Adolf Allerbush** · 10-30-2007, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Jer

That's right. 'Cause everybody who rips on how stupid the Dems are is automatically a Bush/Cheney worshipper. Adolph - your blind assumptions are priceless.

Looks like you didn't watch the video. Might want to do that.

**Jer** · 10-30-2007, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Looks like I'm a total dickbag moron.

fixed it for ya!

ZING!!

or ZANG!!! or whatever..

L7 · 10-30-2007, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Looks like you didn't watch the video. Might want to do that.

What, and ruin a perfectly good opportunity to run his mouth off slamming anything/one that has his fleeting interest while not bothering to get a clue first.

**RootSkier** · 10-30-2007, 07:32 PM

Well, one frontrunner for the Dems never supported the war.

**Jer** · 10-30-2007, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Looks like you didn't watch the video. Might want to do that.

Originally Posted by L7

What, and ruin a perfectly good opportunity to run his mouth off slamming anything/one that has his fleeting interest while not bothering to get a clue first.

Again, librodouches making blind assumptions. I watched up until the George Bush part. Maybe one of you geniuses can tell me what I'm supposed to be seeing. 'Cause all I see are a bunch of douchebags being complete and total hypocrits. Dems immediatly after 9/11 "Saddam Hussien needs to be taken out!! Everybody look how patriotic I am!!". Dems now "We should have never gone into Iraq. It's all Bush's fault!!" Sorry if I don't put that much effort into argueing with morons.

**RootSkier** · 10-30-2007, 07:38 PM

if you want to get even more pissed off, tune into msnbc right now for the debate

Rooster · 10-30-2007, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by Jer

Again, librodouches making blind assumptions. I watched up until the George Bush part. Maybe one of you geniuses can tell me what I'm supposed to be seeing. 'Cause all I see are a bunch of douchebags being complete and total hypocrits. Dems immediatly after 9/11 "Saddam Hussien needs to be taken out!! Everybody look how patriotic I am!!". Dems now "We should have never gone into Iraq. It's all Bush's fault!!" Sorry if I don't put that much effort into argueing with morons.

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**Jer** · 10-30-2007, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by RootSkier

Well, one frontrunner for the Dems never supported the war.

I gotta give Obama credit for not being a scumbag hypocritical flip flopper like Clinton and pretty much all the other Dem politicians. Gotta respect his honesty, even if you don't like his ideas.

**Adolf Allerbush** · 10-30-2007, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Jer

I gotta give Obama credit for not being a scumbag hypocritical flip flopper like Clinton and pretty much all the other Dem politicians. Gotta respect his honesty, even if you don't like his ideas.

Why is it so tough for you to accept that people can change their stance on things after they have more information? Do you think Bush truly believes "Mission Accomplished" as he did years ago when he announced the end of major operations? Are you still skiing on the straight boards you thought were the shit 15 years ago? Somebody suggests something other than what you think and you act as though your nuts exploded. What's your deal?

**Maurice Ballstein** · 10-31-2007, 01:45 PM

Where is the rest of TGR? Why don't they want to touch this one?

**Tippster** · 10-31-2007, 01:50 PM

Guess they don't like touching dogshit.

**Maurice Ballstein** · 10-31-2007, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Tippster

Guess they don't like touching dogshit.

Not if its their own, apparently.

**Tippster** · 10-31-2007, 01:53 PM

I dunno - I just use plastic grocery bags.

**Jer** · 10-31-2007, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Why is it so tough for you to accept that people can change their stance on things after they have more information? Do you think Bush truly believes "Mission Accomplished" as he did years ago when he announced the end of major operations? Are you still skiing on the straight boards you thought were the shit 15 years ago? Somebody suggests something other than what you think and you act as though your nuts exploded. What's your deal?

You are truely an ass-spelunker.

And yeah - I still ski on my Volkl RS Supers. At least I ski. Unlike you. Ass-spelunker.

**iceman** · 10-31-2007, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Maurice Ballstein

Where is the rest of TGR? Why don't they want to touch this one?

Supporting the war was seen as the patriotic thing to do at the time. Lots of people supported the war on both sides of the aisle.

Some of them were able to see the evidence and change their minds.

I know you're posting from the 7:15 from Greenwich into The City, but maybe have another cup of coffee before you post such stupid shit again.

So how's the street, high roller?

**Maurice Ballstein** · 10-31-2007, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by iceman

Supporting the war was seen as the patriotic thing to do at the time. Lots of people supported the war on both sides of the aisle.

Some of them were able to see the evidence and change their minds.

I know you're posting from the 7:15 from Greenwich into The City, but maybe have another cup of coffee before you post such stupid shit again.

So how's the street, high roller?

I tend to agree. The dems wanted to seem patriotic. It would have been politically unwise to not seem so. But clearly, there was no conviction behind the words. And when called on hypocricy, we get the "but I was gullible defense." And grand cop-out.

Tough month for me on the street but I still drive in. None of this pub-plebian transport for me.

**mavrick** · 10-31-2007, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Why is it so tough for you to accept that people can change their stance on things after they have more information? Do you think Bush truly believes "Mission Accomplished" as he did years ago when he announced the end of major operations? Are you still skiing on the straight boards you thought were the shit 15 years ago? Somebody suggests something other than what you think and you act as though your nuts exploded. What's your deal?

Maybe some of us dont like the idea of changing a stance due to 'popular opinion' just to pick up some votes and then blaming everyone else for your actions..

**Jer** · 10-31-2007, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by mavrick

Maybe some of us dont like the idea of changing a stance due to 'popular opinion' just to pick up some votes and then blaming everyone else for your actions..

...especially when you're Hillary Clinton and you want everyone to believe you're Presidential material even though you were duped into going along with invading Iraq by the dumbest guy ever to be President. So that makes her what? - even dumber than Bush? Yeah - that's a definet step up.

**Tourette Dude** · 10-31-2007, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by mavrick

Maybe some of us dont like the idea of changing a stance due to 'popular opinion'

Maybe some of you don't like to change your opinion based on new facts either. Ever heard of adaptation to a dynamic enviroment or maybe blind allegiance just makes life less complex for you.

**iceman** · 10-31-2007, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by Maurice Ballstein

But clearly, there was no conviction behind the words. And when called on hypocricy, we get the "but I was gullible defense." And grand cop-out.

I see a difference between people believing what they were told BY THEIR CHIEF EXECUTIVE, and people just signing up to score points with their electorate. Silly me, I'm sure.

Tough month for me on the street but I still drive in. None of this pub-plebian transport for me.

Yeah I like to drive where I'm going, most people do, I can't blame you. I'm fucking killing in the market though.

It'll change but it feels good right now.

**iceman** · 10-31-2007, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Tourette Dude

Maybe some of you don't like to change your opinion based on new facts either. Ever heard of adaptation to a dynamic enviroment or maybe blind allegiance just makes life less complex for you.

Right on.

You (by "you" I mean everybody) just need to apply this level of critical thinking to ALL political and financial transactions, pretty soon you'll see the light.