Running, Anyone...?

[Strider]

Any SLC area mags doing the http://www.wasatchspeedgoat.com/ ?


It looks pretty cool, I am contemplating making a last minute the trip up for that.

Yep, I'll be there!!! I figure it will take around 6-8 hours to finish

[Rossiz[I.S.]]

Ironmans are where it's at

[Viva]

marathons as LSDs?

what do you think?

if i take it super-slow and just enjoy the experience,
so.. what say you?

but - what if i do marathons on back-to-back weekends? i won't race them, i'll take them super-slow and enjoy the run!

the way i see it, this is a great way to get two of my "super" LSDs in, and have a lot of fun doing it!

besides, if my ultimate goal is to do ultras, why not? might as well get my body used to self-torture while i'm still young..

-steve

First, what is "LSD"?

Second, your current shape is the most important consideration. How do you feel a few days following a long (say 20 mile) training run? If you're still trashed after 5 days, you're probably not ready. But if your running's coming along and you can easily do 10 miles a week after a long training run, then I say go for it.

If you really desire to do ultras, come out to Western States next year. You can work an early aid station that has a glorious view of the Squaw backcountry and then pace someone the final 37 miles in.

[Viva]

yay! I did a quick google search for ya and found this helpful thread on an ultrarunner board:
http://www.ultrunr.com/plantar.html

Holy shit, I know (knew) about half of those guys. That must be an old thread, circa 1999, 2000...

[steve]

First, what is "LSD"?

Second, your current shape is the most important consideration. How do you feel a few days following a long (say 20 mile) training run? If you're still trashed after 5 days, you're probably not ready. But if your running's coming along and you can easily do 10 miles a week after a long training run, then I say go for it.

If you really desire to do ultras, come out to Western States next year. You can work an early aid station that has a glorious view of the Squaw backcountry and then pace someone the final 37 miles in.

Thanks, i value your advice about as much as anybody's.

After last year's LV marathon, i was limping on monday and sore on tuesday, but by thursday i felt completely fine again. I weighed about 40 lbs more than I do now, and I expect to lose at least 30 more before I get to that. my gut tells me that i'll be ok, as long as i take it realllly easy. we won't know, of course, until then.

regarding ultras, i would LOVE to check out western states in 2008, even though it is kind of far.. BUT i am committed to volunteering at the VT 100 in two weekends.

pacing people in 100s is actually something that i'm very excited about doing, maybe even more so than running ultras myself... but i'm not there yet, fitnesswise.

[road trip]

I just want to add that I ran 11.5 yesterday and was very pleased.

Thank you, drive through.

[Viva]

pacing people in 100s is actually something that i'm very excited about doing, maybe even more so than running ultras myself... but i'm not there yet, fitnesswise.

Wanna bet? There are pacer-less runners struggling to get through that final stretch. You'll be doing a fair amount of walking, especially any uphills. You'll also get to see a third of the course.

Have fun at Vermont! That's how I got into racing and ultras- working at Western back in 88.

[valleygirl]

HOLY SHIT THAT FELT GOOD! Ran hard. No pounding head. Dripping sweat. AND the ER called and they found my newest running shoes -- BONUS!! Though note to self -- old road shoes work fine on the dirt roads as they don't NEED as much cushion -- add a few pairs to the quiver!

Happy Day!

[Tuckerman]

Wanna bet? There are pacer-less runners struggling to get through that final stretch. You'll be doing a fair amount of walking, especially any uphills. You'll also get to see a third of the course.

Have fun at Vermont! That's how I got into racing and ultras- working at Western back in 88.

Wait, walking really?

I just want to add that I ran 11.5 yesterday and was very pleased.

Thats great, did you bring water or anything?

[mrryde]

10K in 1:02:23 - almost sub 1 hr....almost

[Tuckerman]

I just had the most shitty lunch run ever. For some reason I was out breath the whole time which is only 4 miles. And my lower legs felt tight. I wounder if it could be due to the humidity?

[BeanDip4All]

Now if anybody can talk to me about plantar fasciaitous (sp??)...

yo gar, aren't you lucky, I sat next to "one of the most renown podiatrists in europe" on my flight, and i asked him what to do for your case. i have his card too if you would like a consult with his although he lives in Geneva.

here are his recs for you:

1. REST - two weeks no training

2. Go see a podiatrist

3. Get the "Strassburg Sock" (i have no clue what this is but he went on and on about it)

4. Orthotics (see step 2)

5. Stretch your calves

6. Take a wine bottle. Drink it. Then take your foot, roll back and forth on the bottle HARD for 5 minutes. Ice for 10 minutes. Repeat twice, 1x a day.

[BeanDip4All]

Oh, and I got my volunteer assignment for Lake Placid Ironman today!!! Yay!

I'm at a rest stop on the run, if any mags are competing? Let me know, I'll make ya a custom sign to cheer (am doing so for my tri coach and another friend who are racing).

Will also be there Monday morning am to sign up for IMLP 2008

[Viva]

1. REST - two weeks no training.
Depends on how bad it is. Two weeks off sucks. Try to stay active if possible

2. Go see a podiatrist
Agree

3. Get the "Strassburg Sock" (i have no clue what this is but he went on and on about it)
His English must have really sucked.

4. Orthotics (see step 2)
Try a different shoe or two first. A lot of plantar problems result from inappropriate footwear. If orthotics are indeed necessary, try the cheap ones first before going cu$tom. Also, at some point when you've recovered, focus on strengthening the calves so that you can ween yourself of the orthotics. It can be done.

5. Stretch your calves
Yes. There's a couple of good stretches that should always be a part of your repertoire if you suffer from Plantar Fasciitis

6. Take a wine bottle. Drink it. Then take your foot, roll back and forth on the bottle HARD for 5 minutes. Ice for 10 minutes. Repeat twice, 1x a day.
I think that this is a bad thing to do. If the plantar's inflamed, hard rollies aren't going to help it recover.

[mrryde]

Will also be there Monday morning am to sign up for IMLP 2008

Hmmmmmm, maybe I bag the Florida 70.3 in May and do this instead.

[Artie Fufkin]

^

Yep, I'll be there!!! I figure it will take around 6-8 hours to finish

I am out for the Speedgoat 50K, though it looks cool. I need to recharge/recover after running a dirt marathon 3 weeks ago and running/hiking/walking the Maroon Bells Four Pass Loop last weekend, which was somewhere between 26-28 miles and 8,200' of climbing and 8,200 descending all above 10,500', it was awesome.


I am looking at this for September: http://www.steamboat50.com/

[steve]

Oh, and I got my volunteer assignment for Lake Placid Ironman today!!! Yay!

I'm at a rest stop on the run, if any mags are competing? Let me know, I'll make ya a custom sign to cheer (am doing so for my tri coach and another friend who are racing).

Will also be there Monday morning am to sign up for IMLP 2008

got my volunteer assignment for the vermont 100 today:

Hi Steve,

Thanks again for volunteering to help at the 2007 VT 100. We could
really use your help at the finish line scoring table from 5 PM until 1
AM. This is a fairly technical job but we train on site and it's
actually quite simple. Just arrive at the start/finish area a little
early and we'll get you set up.

[Strider]

^


I am out for the Speedgoat 50K, though it looks cool. I need to recharge/recover after running a dirt marathon 3 weeks ago and running/hiking/walking the Maroon Bells Four Pass Loop last weekend, which was somewhere between 26-28 miles and 8,200' of climbing and 8,200 descending all above 10,500', it was awesome.


I am looking at this for September: http://www.steamboat50.com/

I'm also think of trying the SB50 as my first 50 miler. The weekend before I'll do the Mid-Mountain Marathon in Park City.

I'm nervous about the SpeedGoat. It has been hot as fuck lately and I do not run well in the heat!

Did you keep up on the progress of Hardrock? Jurek killed it and Krissy Moehl finished in 3rd place overall!!!

[Viva]

Did you keep up on the progress of Hardrock? Jurek killed it and Krissy Moehl finished in 3rd place overall!!!

I knew Scott would probably kill it. Some folks were going on about a battle between Scott and Karl, but Karls' a bitch and most people just can't seem to appreciate that fact.

Fellow Rat, Scott, finished 11 overall.

Krissy's really impressing me- she become so much faster over the years. Maybe being married to Brandon for a few years pushed her in that respect.

[road trip]

8 miles on the treadmill at lunch (my hockey team is gonna love me tonight). I feel like I need to get myself a Michelob Ultra just like in the commercials!

If this is your idea of a power lunch... this is your beer.

(ha)

yo gar, aren't you lucky, I sat next to "one of the most renown podiatrists in europe" on my flight, and i asked him what to do for your case.

Thanks again for this! I've got the NYC 1/2 in a few weeks.... so what I think I'll do is just deal with it until then and then work it out afterwards. I've been sitting here at my desk at work, rolling my feet over a tennis ball. I also tend to stretch it out on curbs, railings, and stairs whenever I am just standing around. I get some funny looks, but also the occassional look of acknowledgement from other runners!

Yes. There's a couple of good stretches that should always be a part of your repertoire if you suffer from Plantar Fasciitis

Thanks, Viva.. any particulars? I know one of my issues is that I have very limited range of motion in my right ankle due to a severe sprain so it's tough to get that good calf stretch in.

Pre run, I normally go through a 15 minute routine of stretching (3 times per leg per stretch):

1) butterfly stretch, and then left leg out (right leg "indian style) and grab the foot, and then switch sides (repeat cycle)
2) left leg out w/ right leg over, pull quad into body and lean back/twist to stretch the IT band
3) stand-up and do the hands against wall calf-stretch (straigh leg, flat foot)
4) similar to #3 but drive the knee forward to stretch the foot (for plantar fasciitis) OR stand on a curb or similar and let the heel dip
5) bend forward at waist and touch ground with crossed legs (for IT band)

Oh, and I got my volunteer assignment for Lake Placid Ironman today!!!

Hey! One of my friends is actually competing in this. Without trying to hard, you can find a list of myfriends and see who it is! She'll kick @ss, I'm sure.

[Viva]

3) stand-up and do the hands against wall calf-stretch (straigh leg, flat foot)
4) similar to #3 but drive the knee forward to stretch the foot (for plantar fasciitis) OR stand on a curb or similar and let the heel dip.

#3 is a fairly standard stretch. I don't know about #4, though.

Probably the best calf stretch is to, while standing, put one leg out about a foot 'n' a half in front of the other, bend the other leg ("the back leg") such that you can reach down and pull back of the toes on the "front foot". I know that this isn't the best description, but play with it and I'm sure that you'll figure it out.

Edit- Check out this bitch. Do the same thing, but reach down and grab the toes of the forward foot with the same-side hand.

[road trip]

lol... #4 above is the one in the pic! Excellent description I offered!

Never thought of the foot grab though... I'll give that a go!

[Viva]

Never thought of the foot grab though... I'll give that a go!

Go easy, that shit can hurt.

[road trip]

So you think on running message boards, there are any threads entitled...

Skiing, Anyone.....?

[Viva]

So you think on running message boards, there are any threads entitled...

Skiing, Anyone.....?

Bet me quarter and there soon will be.