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    Dang, bummer not to finish but that does not look like terrain you want to be in during a thunderstorm. Super cool to have an official race route with a long 3rd/4th class scrambling section.

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    Never was much of a runner, but started racing triathlons a few years ago and got pretty into it. I’m working on getting stronger and losing some weight right now, but I jog a little pushing the baby jogger. I’m excited to get back to chasing a few PR’s. I ran a 20:01 5k, so I’m motivated to see if I can shave 2 seconds, haha. One and only marathon was 3:38 so could definitely whittle that one down some. Would love to qualify for Boston and make a big trip out of it. Who’s chasing down a PR? Brag on yourself a little, I’m sure there are some fast maggots out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagtagley View Post
    Wool FTW. Smartwool for comfort and fit, Darn Tough for durability. I'm lucky to get two years out of a pair of Smartwool socks (lightweight, low cut), but still favor them because they fit so well and are so comfortable.
    I’m with you on Smartwools, bag. Iirc, they have a two year warranty so if yours shit the bed under 24 months, look that up. (I feel like mine usually last 30 months or so). My go to socks though.

    Darn Tough are *the* go-to socks on the PCT but might feet get hot wearing them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thedude2340 View Post



    Weather got a little sporty in the afternoon, they ultimately called the race around 3:30pm. 20 finished, 57 remained on course including me. Made it to 32 mi and 10,600 ft of gain. Really wanted to get the finish but stoked on the day overall. Amazing and challenging race - highly recommend…
    This photo is cool, puts me there for a sec.

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    Great TR. 14,000 feet gain with most of the race being over 10,000 feet is nutty. Bummer on the weather at the end. Beautiful pics.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thedude2340 View Post
    Bassackwards TR but started at 5am and running into 11-12k feet while the sun was rising was memorable

    Weather got a little sporty in the afternoon, they ultimately called the race around 3:30pm. 20 finished, 57 remained on course including me. Made it to 32 mi and 10,600 ft of gain. Really wanted to get the finish but stoked on the day overall. Amazing and challenging race - highly recommend…
    32 miles and 10.6k' in 10.5 hours? That's Hardrock pace if I read that correctly. Legit. How much descent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hafjell View Post
    32 miles and 10.6k' in 10.5 hours? That's Hardrock pace if I read that correctly. Legit. How much descent?
    It's someone's Hardrock pace. Very, very respectable given the elevation, the slow scrambling section, and it being his first ultra, but a long ways off the top of the field. Remember, 20 people had already finished when he was still 8 miles out. As another point of reference, when I did the Wasatch Speedgoat (50k with 11.5k vert) I finished ~50th with a time of 8:01. The winner finished in 5:40, just on an entirely different planet.

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    I saw a new assisted FKT for the PCT was set this week. Karel Sabbe finished in 46 days 12 hrs and change, some 5 days off the previous best set in 2021. He averaged 58.1 miles and ~9,000 vert/day and also kicked out the finish with a very respectable 100 miles over the last 28hr. One article I read said he trained a mere 7-10 hrs/week for the lead up to that effort.
    Move upside and let the man go through...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeachesNCream View Post
    Great TR. 14,000 feet gain with most of the race being over 10,000 feet is nutty. Bummer on the weather at the end. Beautiful pics.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    It's someone's Hardrock pace. Very, very respectable given the elevation, the slow scrambling section, and it being his first ultra, but a long ways off the top of the field. Remember, 20 people had already finished when he was still 8 miles out. As another point of reference, when I did the Wasatch Speedgoat (50k with 11.5k vert) I finished ~50th with a time of 8:01. The winner finished in 5:40, just on an entirely different planet.
    Dantheman is right, I was at the back of the pack TBH and the winner finished in 8:30 which I’m still trying to wrap my head around given the intensity of the terrain.

    And the 8 remaining miles included another 3500 ft gain. It was relentless.

    I learned a lot as we often do during hard things, mostly about what not to do. Still have that goal of actually finishing an ultra and will take those lessons with me.

    I’m 46 and this was my second “organized” race event (first was a 25mi so not an official ultra). I will say as a guy who avoided this type of thing because the mountains were a place to get away from humans, I am so impressed by how supportive, kind and generally badass this trail running “community” really is. If that could spill over into daily humanity, life would be even sweeter.

    I think that attitude proves doing hard things and a bit of struggle makes for a better human. I’m going to keep scheduling things like this, I feel so good about it, and inspired by the people involved in it (despite never having a real chance to be “competitive”)

    Anywho, philosophizing off, keep getting out there, it’s great for you and everyone around you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedude2340 View Post
    I am so impressed by how supportive, kind and generally badass this trail running “community” really is. If that could spill over into daily humanity, life would be even sweeter.

    This is one of the things that sucked me into ultras back in the 80s, and it's always been an incredibly rewarding aspect of the sport.

    I only raced for a dozen years, or so, but I was involved with ultras for about thirty years because it was always so much fuckin' fun!
    Your dog just ate an avocado!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedude2340 View Post
    doing hard things and a bit of struggle makes for a better human.
    I’m a big believer in this


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeachesNCream View Post
    I’m a big believer in this


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    Amen.

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    Smoke has finally come to Utah. Already forecasted to mostly leave Friday - we have been lucky this summer with many clear days.

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    Congratulations Dude looks like a great race. Wondering how do they call a race like that. You were in between aid stations. Did someone run down and tell you to turn around?
    off your knees Louie

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedude2340 View Post
    I will say as a guy who avoided this type of thing because the mountains were a place to get away from humans, I am so impressed by how supportive, kind and generally badass this trail running “community” really is. If that could spill over into daily humanity, life would be even sweeter.

    I think that attitude proves doing hard things and a bit of struggle makes for a better human. I’m going to keep scheduling things like this, I feel so good about it, and inspired by the people involved in it (despite never having a real chance to be “competitive”)
    That's awesome, thedude. And also why the trail running community holds a special place in my heart. And I think being "competitive" is overrated. I think it's most important to have a why. If that's the community, physical challenges, competition, or whatever, it is a powerful stimulus to accomplish amazing things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    As another point of reference, when I did the Wasatch Speedgoat (50k with 11.5k vert) I finished ~50th with a time of 8:01. The winner finished in 5:40, just on an entirely different planet.
    Since I just watched it last night - it's one of the more memorable endurance clips I've ever watched - this is a good place to post it and show fast the pros are.



    Two of the strongest in 2016 going head-to-head at The North Face 50 in Marin. Zach Miller is a Prefontaine-type - he leads from the front and always wants to go hard. 50miles, ~10k climbing - but more runable than Speedgoat - to watch their speed and how hard they push is just insane. Their total time was just under six hours. (Zach is also running UTMB this weekend).

    And on that note, Courtney’s pre UTMB interview. Her energy is infectious. Stoked for the race and hoping she crushes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BFD View Post
    Congratulations Dude looks like a great race. Wondering how do they call a race like that. You were in between aid stations. Did someone run down and tell you to turn around?
    Thanks! In my case I ran into a lady hiking who said “sorry about your race” and that’s when I found out. Proceeded to the next aid station and cracked a beer.

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    Hey mags, long shot here but my wife is running the Devil on the Divide half trail this weekend (start is in Empire, CO) and we’re looking for a good dispersed camp spot on the south side of Berthoud - anyone have ideas? Race start is EARLY so we’re looking for a spot close by.

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    During the last 3rd of my marathon my hips were in a lot of pain. Felt like in my groin area and more muscular/tendons than joint. I’ve always been quite inflexible and my guess is this pain is due to poor flexibility or weak groin muscles. Does this sound right? Does anyone have any stretching or exercises that could help?

    Also I’ve heard zero drop shoes can help with hip pain. I’m assuming they’re talking more about joint pain than what i experienced or could that address muscular stuff as well? I wore hoka cliftons which are a mid to low drop shoe, I think 5mm drop.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lowsparkco View Post
    Brag on yourself a little, I’m sure there are some fast maggots out there.
    I'm only fast gravity-assisted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    I'm only fast gravity-assisted.

    Nice.

    Going down fast is a skill. I’m a pretty solid descender too. Often I’ll yo-yo with others on the trail as I pass them down and they pass me up.

    I’m on the lookout for a track. Need to figure some splits out and get some foot speed back.

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    Wow Dan, that will get your legs in ski shape! 12 minutes on that trail??? Do you use poles? When I ran down that conditions were primo - still fell on my ass once (no poles) and I took it super slow at the bottom through that stupid rock gully. You must have been doing some big-step rock surfing at the end.

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    No poles. The bottom section definitely requires fast feet and commitment.

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    Damn. Your'e the man, Dan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    No poles. The bottom section definitely requires fast feet and commitment.
    aka balls. Nice job!

    I about took a solid digger at the end of a run today on flat. Tired legs. Clipped toe. Right in front of 2 ladies that were walking other way. Luckily I caught myself. Keeps me honest.

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