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    Juneau Mags: PLEASE read this, MASSIVE avi danger related

    http://www.adn.com/front/picture_ins...-8631557c.html

    Danger rated as 'extreme' for avalanche
    JUNEAU: 60 homes, a hotel and the harbor are in a hazardous path.

    By ANNE SUTTON
    The Associated Press

    Published: March 22, 2007
    Last Modified: March 22, 2007 at 07:49 AM

    JUNEAU -- A snowstorm this week sealed a winter snowfall record in Juneau and prompted city officials to warn residents of extreme danger from avalanches.

    Though the threat level remained extreme, forecasters said the probability of avalanches was slightly lower Wednesday because precipitation was less than expected overnight. But they warned continued high winds and rain could still set off slides from a heavy snowpack on Mount Juneau.

    More than 60 homes, a hotel, a busy boat harbor and several roadways, including sections of Egan Expressway, are considered at risk from several avalanche paths sweeping Mount Juneau.

    As of 4 a.m. Wednesday, a new city record for snowfall was set. This year's 194.6 inches to date edged the record set in the winter of 1964-1965 by three-tenths of an inch.

    The city Tuesday night warned residents of the two neighborhoods most at-risk of avalanches from Mount Juneau to be prepared to leave their homes quickly.

    "Those people in the runouts should be prepared. Avalanches can travel well over 100 mph so there will be little or no warning," said Capital City Fire and Rescue Chief Eric Mohrmann.

    Mohrmann said the city cannot legally order an evacuation but he said residents should check the city's Web-based avalanche forecasting system and decide for themselves.

    "We are trying to educate the public, advising them that there is this hazard which has been described as extreme at this point. They need to take due precautions, but it's their decision," he said.

    Some residents are staying with friends or family until the danger lessens. And the city was offering shelter Wednesday night at a downtown youth center to residents without other accommodations.

    Meanwhile, city crews have been gearing up for the worst-case scenario. Emergency Preparedness Director Mike Patterson said he had met with fire crews to go over response plans. Volunteer firefighters were told to keep their pagers on until the danger level was lowered.

    City officials are relying on a new city-sponsored avalanche forecasting system, but Patterson said there is no certainty whether avalanches will let loose and whether they will have a long enough reach to threaten homes and lives.

    "It depends on how the precipitation falls. If it's very heavy up high, that will load things up quickly, saturate everything, and that will very, very likely trigger avalanches somewhere. If it's a misty rain, it soaks in slower and can potentially stabilize the snow up there," Patterson said.

    The most destructive slide in recent years occurred in March 1962 and caused severe to moderate damage to 17 homes and minor damage to 18 more. No one was badly injured in the slide, although damage included roofs blown off, chimneys snapped, houses pushed off their foundations and trees hurled through walls and roofs.

    Moderate avalanches have been reported at regular intervals since then, damaging some homes.

    But avalanche experts warn that it's just a matter of time before a big one.

    "This definitely is a year that raises flags because you have a lot of snow from top to bottom that can get entrained in the avalanche, and that means it has much more power and runs farther and hits harder," said Jill Fredston of the Alaska Mountain Safety Center.

    For the time being at least, the forecast will stay at the "extreme" level.

    Southeast Alaska Avalanche Center director and lead forecaster Bill Glude said an avalanche control effort outside town persuaded him to keep it there.

    A state avalanche control crew firing artillery shots from across Gastineau Channel at Mount Roberts brought down a slide that enveloped about 300 yards of a highway about two miles from downtown. Crews spent much of the day clearing the snow, which was as deep as 20 feet in places.

    That slide, coupled with the ongoing threat of rain, prompted Glude not to lower the threat level "until the snowpack has more time to adjust," he wrote in an e-mail.
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    i'd be getting the fuck out the way if I was there
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    The link has some good pics of stuff ripping. Probably the same for the WHOLE Southeast snow pack (think Haines, Cordova, etc.)
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    Sounds like life in Europe. They lose whole hotels full of guest.

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    It's so f'ing dumb they let people live in those paths. That zone has slide before and it will slide again. I don't know if anyone ever died, but they will. There's a whole section about it in Jill Fredston's book Snowstruck. She basically says it's stupid and reckless, but the city and the residents of those homes in the paths either don't care or are too stupid to care. There's also a section in her book about a group of homes that got hit somewhere else in AK. She was called in to dig them out. Found some older woman sitting in a lazyboy with the remote still in her hand, dead. Is shit like that really worth just condemming and relocated a few homes and businesses?
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    Just Sitin here

    Sitting in a Vadez Hotel, watching the sun pop in and out.

    Snowed all night! fresh on the ground. Not clear enough to fly! not bad enough to call it for the day! Can't drink, just wait and see.

    Just sayin

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTT View Post
    Sitting in a Vadez Hotel, watching the sun pop in and out.

    Snowed all night! fresh on the ground. Not clear enough to fly! not bad enough to call it for the day! Can't drink, just wait and see.

    Just sayin
    dood, you need to be touring with this guy>>>http://www.alaska.net/~chalet/in/ski_report.html

    just sayin, he tours every day, knows safe areas and maximizes flat /no light
    matt m.
    cool guy

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    wooo the first big avi cycle of the spring a sign of spring skiing to come? Probably not it'll snow on closing day again
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    lucky eaglecrest mags

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    Don't be thinking Cordova. We have excellent skiing now, steep lines being skied in deep powder.
    youkneebonger maybe he should just mention your name to matt m whoever that is.
    I feel for you MTT. not a big fan of heli skiing but I will say if you were with Points North you could of at least been lapping up the foot of fresh we got on Mt Eyak or hiking the 2000 vert of powder behing the lodge.
    off your knees Louie

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