Somebody explain the 'A' that's right by the boot center mark on soles

[kidwoo]

Yeah try searching 'bootsole' and 'A' and you'll see why I made a new thread.

Anyway........is the 'A' a marking point on it's own or just stand for something applying to the mark right next to it?


The reason I ask is I just got a pair of skis mounted with the fucking sidewall mark circled and a line drawn on the topsheet that corresponds to the sidewall mark.......not the topsheet mark that sits about 1cm forward......which is where the bindings got mounted. I'm not bitching yet because I haven't skied them but I'm a little upset if they're not where I asked to have them mounted. This 'A' in question lines up with the sidewall mark, while the line on the boot is what's forward......on the topsheet mark.

thanks

[stuckathuntermtn]

it doesn't just mean Adult?

[The Dark Side]

I once asked Larry the Bootfitter in Boulder this same question and even he didn't know. I'm still wondering...

[kidwoo]

I think it stands for awesome.

At least on my boots it does.

Either that or aw shit.

[frorider]

tele boots keep it real by having no sole markings at all. so every time i mount some tele bindings i have to measure and divide by 2. :violin:

have you asked the guy who mounted the skis?

[kidwoo]

tele boots keep it real by having no sole markings at all. so every time i mount some tele bindings i have to measure and divide by 2. :violin:

have you asked the guy who mounted the skis?

That's why I don't tele.......the math.


I definitely will be talking to the guy who mounted them. I can say this though.....they're at least 2mm within being in the same place ski to ski. I'm still a little chapped though.......I mean you can still see the line I drew on the topsheet AND the circle around the sidewall marks. His boss is a friend of mine and said if I want to make an issue out of it, I could probably get some skis. But it's hard to bitch about performance of a pow(ish) ski when I can't ski it in the conditions I'm interested in. I'll probably just mention it with a 'you may hear from me next time it snows' kind of thing.

[AbsolutStoli]

perhaps it stands for arch? just a guess...since its in the middle of the sole.

[jerr]

What make of boot are they? Could it be a non-english word?

Or maybe the center of the plastic boot shell isn't where the center of your foot actually is. So, maybe it indicates that and stands for anatomical center?

Short answer - duno

[philippeR]

A stands for Anal.

[Arty50]

What make of boot are they? Could it be a non-english word?

My Rossis have an 'A' also. I forgot what the woo is on.

[Sockerfarsan]

This 'A' in question lines up with the sidewall mark, while the line on the boot is what's forward......on the topsheet mark.

Lifting an old thread...

I just got Jesters and P18s mounted with the right jigs and we used my boots to set the length. Both jigs were perfectly aligned to the sidewall marks and everything done by really good techs.

On both mounts the 'A' aligns with the sidewall mark, and the line on the boot is about 3 mm forward. Different bindings, jigs and techs.

Anyone know anything about the line vs. the 'A'?

[bossass]

Eh?


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[Foggy_Goggles]

I, nor nobody in my shop, knows what it means. We measured about 10 boots with the A. The midsole was always the hash mark, not the the A. We mount the harsh as the midsole. Measure the boot, then you'll know if it's a fuck up.

Here's a tip for all you anal mount mutha fuckas. Lay out your own mounts or ask if you can do it with the tech in the shop. Then you'll get them mounted where you want. I've probably called 25 people this year on mounts. Exactly 2 could give me any helpfull information. The rest had no idea what I was talking about and said "do what you think is best".

Don't drop you mount off with the rental monkey's or retail tools. Talk to the tune guys.

[kidwoo]

The midsole was always the hash mark, not the the A. We mount the A as the midsole.

Did you type what you meant to type?


If so you're saying the midsole is the line and that you ignore that and mount at the A which none of you knows what it means.

That's some sound science.



Since starting this thread, I've since learned that the A stands for awesome.


I don't even worry about midsoles anymore. All my skis are mounted at awesome. And I won't be waiting for you......but will be autographing photos.

[Foggy_Goggles]

Did you type what you meant to type?

No, i'm a retard. We mount at the harsh. Unless the customer requests an awsome mount which requires an extra 12er of Canadian Budweiser.

[Tye 1on]

No, i'm a retard. We mount at the harsh. Unless the customer requests an awsome mount which requires an extra 12er of Canadian Budweiser.

Did you type what you meant to type? Isn't Canadian Budweiser an oxymoron?








hey suit, any luck on that dumb icon yet?

[Foggy_Goggles]

Did you type what you meant to type? Isn't Canadian Budweiser an oxymoron?








hey suit, any luck on that dumb icon yet?

No. Are you picking on me?

[mntlion]

ask "the boot guys" on epic. I'm sure someone has an answer

[lemon boy]

What.The.FUCK?

The A is the ANKLE PLUMB LINE you dumbshits! It absolutely breaks my heart that people are now so fundamentally ignorant of ski history that all knowledge of the ankle line and its attendant technique implications has been lost from the collective consciousness.

In the days of yore the ankle was fundamentally more mobile and important to the construction of a "modern" p-turn than it is now with the huge boots but the A line has persisted because it is a long held standard. The A- marks the spot on a boot where the ankle nominally falls without pressuring either fore or aft.

Much like the traditional pins on chord center tele mount a straight "A" mount puts the ankle directly over what is in modern speak the "midsole" line.

Yes, yes I am completely full of shit.

[pechelman]

thats a hell of a lot of forward lean

[kidwoo]

What.The.FUCK?

The A is the ANKLE PLUMB LINE you dumbshits! It absolutely breaks my heart that people are now so fundamentally ignorant of ski history that all knowledge of the ankle line and its attendant technique implications has been lost from the collective consciousness.

In the days of yore the ankle was fundamentally more mobile and important to the construction of a "modern" p-turn than it is now with the huge boots but the A line has persisted because it is a long held standard. The A- marks the spot on a boot where the ankle nominally falls without pressuring either fore or aft.

Much like the traditional pins on chord center tele mount a straight "A" mount puts the ankle directly over what is in modern speak the "midsole" line.

Yes, yes I am completely full of shit.

I'm going with Awsome.

[bobski]

Sorry to be boring with an actual, serious answer to the question but I think stuckathuntermtn was on the right track.

"A"=adult and "C" = child

Evidence: All my kiddie boots 22.5 and smaller have a "C" on the sole (although not all lined up with mid-sole hash mark) and the boots 23 and up have an "A" (including a 23 Rossi Comp Jr. and a Nordica Jr GT4).

Motive: I think this is done to indicate sole shape so that kids boots get paired with kids bindings since kids boots do not fit properly in adult bindings (different shape and release).

[Conundrum]

Kidwoo is correct. Awesome. And the C on the little boots with a different iso din toe/heel smaller than the awesome boots stands for?

Bobski, you answered while I was typing. 22.5 and smaller have different din standards and need the little people bindings. Way to thrunt up an AWESOME thread.

[kidwoo]

And the C on the little boots with a different iso din toe/heel smaller than the awesome boots stands for?

Coors


Rocky mountain streamwater Coors.

[Conundrum]

Coors and awesome seem to go hand in hand. At least the Banquet variety. Cheers