Muscle Recovery, Testosterone, and Masturbation?

[Platinum Pete]

I am trying to bulk up a bit for ski season, hitting the weights and cardio, and I was thinking about athletes doping with testosterone. Elevated levels of testosterone aids in recovery, right? Remember how boxers like Mohammed Ali used to abstain from physical activity for a period of time before a fight to give them their "edge"? What's the relation of not busting nuts to better recovery and muscle gain?
If I stopped having sex with my girlfriend and stop whacking off, will I get stronger faster?
Has anyone experimented with this? What educated opinions are out there? Am I better off getting cardio in the bedroom?

That Outside magazine article on doping makes me want the benefits of doping without the scariness and doctor bills. What other home-made doping techniques are out there? Is there a natural way to increase my HGH, raise my hemacrit levels, help my muscles retain more water, recover faster? Any ideas that are not widely published in every training book? Thoughts?

[mrw]

The dangers of toxic sperm build up are well documented. This is not an advisable action.There is an old weight lifters trick that I would recommend.

..............................RECIPE FOR THROAT YOUGURT................................
Masturbate into a glass, combine it with one raw egg and 6 oz of orange juice
drink twice daily

[belgian]

..............................RECIPE FOR THROAT YOUGURT................................
Masturbate into a glass, combine it with one raw egg and 6 oz of orange juice
drink twice daily

what the fuck?

[irul&ublo]

I am trying to bulk up a bit for ski season, hitting the weights and cardio, and I was thinking about athletes doping with testosterone. Elevated levels of testosterone aids in recovery, right? Remember how boxers like Mohammed Ali used to abstain from physical activity for a period of time before a fight to give them their "edge"? What's the relation of not busting nuts to better recovery and muscle gain?
If I stopped having sex with my girlfriend and stop whacking off, will I get stronger faster?
Has anyone experimented with this? What educated opinions are out there? Am I better off getting cardio in the bedroom?

That Outside magazine article on doping makes me want the benefits of doping without the scariness and doctor bills. What other home-made doping techniques are out there? Is there a natural way to increase my HGH, raise my hemacrit levels, help my muscles retain more water, recover faster? Any ideas that are not widely published in every training book? Thoughts?

I t6hink you should give it a try. And while you're at it, send us your GF's phone number....sounds like she'll have some time on her hands.

[Mott the Hoople]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say I'll bet if you quit jerking off you'll have enough energy for ten people for ohhhh let's say 3 yrs..give or take. Really!

[BLOOD SWEAT STEEL]

Urban legend.

Busting a nut (or not) has nothing to do with your body's testosterone levels. You don't skeet test, you skeet jizz. Jack off all you want, it's not going to make a difference in the gym (except your grip strength might suffer a little after a heated two-hour meat duel.)

No, there is no natural way to reproduce cells by secreting more GH than your pituitary gland already produces. At least not by any means with results worthy of measure.

Moderately dosed B12 can help increase your red blood cell count, which (obviously) increases the shuttling of water and oxygen into muscle fibers. It may assist in increasing your recovery times, but the effects vary widely from one person to the next in terms of results. At the very least, it will increase your appetite and give you a little more energy. 1cc (1000ug) injected either IM or subQ (doesn't really matter) every third day or so is more than enough.

If you want to bulk up, start with eating a clean high calorie (4,000+/ day)diet and drink lots (2+ gal./day) of water.

Oh, and keep jacking off.

[Spicoli]

Make sure you alternate hands. One Popeye forearm is a not a good look.

[MeatPuppet]

Urban legend.



Oh, and keep jacking off.

What about creatine? Sperm contain a lot of creatine. Does sperm production leach enough creatine from your muscles to be noticable, or is it a non issue? I've wondered about this for a while but have always been too lazy to go research it myself.
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[Viva]

I recall hearing that orgasm affects the fast twitch fibers of men and women differently. In women, these muscles become "primed", so to speak, but in men, fast twitch fibers seem to lose some responsiveness for a little while. I never researched this, however.

[BLOOD SWEAT STEEL]

What about creatine? Sperm contain a lot of creatine. Does sperm production leach enough creatine from your muscles to be noticable, or is it a non issue? I've wondered about this for a while but have always been too lazy to go research it myself.
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Non issue. Creatine is a naturally occurring substance, so of course it is going to be found (at least in trace amounts) in pretty much every cell in your body. Creatine kinase levels in semen can be an indicator of overall fertility, but they aren't going to affect your bench max.

A pound of quality medium-cooked London Broil contains roughly 3-4gm of natural creatine anyways. Much more bioavailable usability and less liver toxic than any powdered or liquid OTC creatine. Keep eating.

[Keoni]

My workouts are for shit if I have sex before-hand(pun intended)

[Fatty]

I'd check out the supplement ZMA. It does a good job raising testosterone levels and can be found at GNC and the like. Back in college (swimming) we were advised to stop taking it because it was causing some people to give positive tests. Add that to a good Creatine cycle, and a bunch of protein shakes (how you mix it is up to you), and you should put on that extra bulk before the season starts back up.

ZMA/Creatine/Protein is only the beginning - There's plenty of resources online about all these things...

- and by no means stop beating off or having sex

[BLOOD SWEAT STEEL]

ZMA is snake oil.

Well, not really - but it won't do anything for a normal, active healthy male that OTC supplemental B6, Zinc, and Magnesium don't do already. Low IGF-1 and testosterone levels in athletes can (very) often be attributed to simple zinc deficiency.

ZMA - what? 10mg of zinc per capsule? Let's say it costs $12 per bottle of 90caps. = $1.333/mg

OTC Zinc supplement - 10mg per - 100 tablet bottle - $2.50 = $ .0025/mg.

That's like 5 1/2 times the cost for the exact same thing. The ZMA science is on, but the price and packaging are smoke and mirrors. Just something to keep in mind. I guess it's of value to this conversation though - that supplemental dietary zinc can be directly attributed to increased penile health.

Just as long as your forearms can keep up.

There is no replacement for a pharmecutical grade Creatine powder or Whey Isolate, however. (Other than ridiculously inhuman amounts of food)

[Platinum Pete]

the responses recommending products from nutrition stores have me wondering about all these supplements. Some are scary as fuck - DHEA 100 has a warning that lists all the scary things that anabolic steroids can do to you (mini-testes, boobs, roid rage). Some sound sensible enough, but no website trying to sell something is going to give me the negative side effects unless the law requires.

I'm a pretty natural dude, and I am not cool with wrecking my liver or nutsack for the sake of my guns. So which of the products out there, by category or function are dangerous/not worth the risk/total bogus fraud and which are effective and safe?

Also, I whacked off before a bike ride with a big hill climb yesterday and I was weaker than last week when I didn't blow a load for a few days.

[Platinum Pete]

i should add that I am about 40 pounds heavier than I'd like to be, but I have a good cardio engine. My goal is to drop the 40 pounds of fat by April (my 30th birthday). I'm doing my best with controlling my diet (caloric deficit, not eating specific foods for health benefit). Should I cut back on cardio while I weight train or combine the two?

[KungPowder]

I have a question similar to this. Do you all think that masturbation might have an effect on attention span? Im not sure if its just me but it just seems that im alot less jittery if I abstain for a couple of days.

[LaramieSkiBum]

i gotta say creatine is fucking incredible for me. And i don't load up much, just a scoop or two a day for a week or so and then maybe I stop for a week. If I'm going to be doing 10-15 miles/day for 4 or 5 days with a pack, I'll load up 3 or 4 days before hand. Soreness is a thing of the past. The actual soreness never really bothered me, and always went away after 3 or 4 days into a routine, but it demonstrates that it works. I actually craved being sore after lifting because you can kind of tell which part of the muscle you got and what you missed, but after taking a break for a week and then getting back into lifting, I never get sore after the first 3 or 4 days.

Recovery time is phenominal...But you could say i was slightly dehydrated before hand also, with creatine you have to force yourself to drink, so that might have something to do with my results as well.

BSS - why would creatine NOT be OTC? Is it just a supply and demand thing? Whats the real difference between pharmy grade and OTC?

[BLOOD SWEAT STEEL]

BSS - why would creatine NOT be OTC? Is it just a supply and demand thing? Whats the real difference between pharmy grade and OTC?

No, it is over the counter, just produced with far fewer impurities. There's a lot of ad clutter out there, ESPECIALLY when it comes to supplement marketing. You've just got to be informed enough to be able to sift through the junk to find the best quality product available (and not break your wallet.) Just like with protein, (or pretty much any dietary supplement) not all creatine powders are created equal. As far as off the shelf in your local GNC, Dymatize and Universal Nutrition's creatine monohydrate powders are pretty much the highest quality readily available products to the average joe.

Pure monohydrate with no fillers or additives - It is known that most German and Russian produced creatine powders have a much higher level of purity than the Asian or even US produced stuff. Keep in mind that when one uses the term "pharmaceutical grade" when referring to creatine, that this implies that the product is pure, NOT that it is simply made with pharm/food grade (quality) ingredients. Another clever word play employed by the big supplement companies.

Liquid creatine is junk, creatine citrate is junk, super creatine "stack" glutamine/protein/BCAA/cherry kool aid flavor/creatine powders are junk, and creatine capsules/pills are junk. Many reasons, but mostly having to do with bioavailability, uptake efficiency, and dosage (cost per.) Pure, pharm grade, 100% monohydrate, shit-esque tasting powder is the only way to go.

And yes - albeit misunderstood and often abused, creatine is a beautiful thing.

[BLOOD SWEAT STEEL]

i should add that I am about 40 pounds heavier than I'd like to be, but I have a good cardio engine. My goal is to drop the 40 pounds of fat by April (my 30th birthday). I'm doing my best with controlling my diet (caloric deficit, not eating specific foods for health benefit). Should I cut back on cardio while I weight train or combine the two?

No, you should be cutting back on the weights and upping the cardio. Weights build muscle, cardio burns fat. Unless you're weight training in a constant cardiovascular state (NOT very likely,) the two are not interchangeable. I know, not what you wanted to hear. It takes a big dick to get up on that treadmill 90, 120+ minutes a day, but that's what's going to make it happen. 40 pounds is a lofty goal, but easily attainable in eight months if you're focused. I'd say doing it in even half that time isn't out of reach. Eat a normal, healthy, balanced diet and up the cardio. WAY up. Losing the iron (save for maybe one or two days a week of circuit training) is optimal. Drink 2+ gallons of water per day.

Don't worry about getting bigger. Your muscles are already ripped, shredded, and striated. The body you want is already there, it's just hiding from you behind that forty pounds.

[Viva]

Also, I whacked off before a bike ride with a big hill climb yesterday...

This is why you were always late for our rides. Glad we knew each other well enough that we didn't shake hands...

[shmerham]

Working out and getting off are two excellent stress relievers. I find that doing one negates the need for the other. If I jerk off before a run, I don't have that negative energy to burn off. However, if at first I go for a run, and it's around greenlake, where there's tons of hot girls, nothing happens to my sex drive.

[72Twenty]

Hooray for jacking off!

[BLOOD SWEAT STEEL]

+1 because I spanked the monkey today.

BAD monkey!