Real Estate Crash thread

[byates1]

^I've been full time for almost 3 yrs. I've never stayed at a campsite.

Jackson would be no prob. As long as you are not posting up throwing garbage everywhere and looking like a vagrant, the town is open arms to ppl willing to work and help the community.

I spent the day down there last fall talking w cops, ppl that live there and business owners etc. All good.

Just outside of town in all directions is nowhereville WY.

It's the same in Bozeman.

[Kevo]

Byates has a very stealthy rig. It's pro level for undercover van life.

[mcphee]

[Ted Striker]

This would work too

[AdironRider]

Byates has a very stealthy rig. It's pro level for undercover van life.

Undercover van life is not a thing in a ski town unless he has a fake plumbing or electrical company logo on the side.

But hey he was there for a day and thinks he can do it year round now apparently, so more power to him. Live the dream!

[byates1]

Noone w half a brain would want to stay in town. National forest everywhere. Virtually no law. Couldn't be easier.

I've literally been doing it for almost 3 years and 7 winters.

[neckdeep]

He's "upscale" by his own estimation so of course the forest ranger peons will make an exception for him.

Virtually no law? Try again. The fact you say that shows you are just talking out of your ass. The forest service has regulated the fuck out of all the nearby camping zones. They had to because unregulated dispersed car camping areas all had literally hundreds of pounds of human shit piling up in them.

Enforcement is a priority. Its heavily patrolled plus there's local nimbys who volunteer to go around and write down plate numbers for the Freddies. Good luck with that.

[byates1]

So your telling a full time van guy who has stayed near Jackson dozens of times over the years that it's not possible? Wtf. You must live near Benny in Connecticut.

Jackson allows overnight parking near the rec center in the center of town.

I literally talked a a sheriff explained I was thinking of working in town etc. All good.

Are you heading to Breckenridge for a big ski vacation next year?

[AdironRider]

You have to apply for one of those spots at the Rec Center and employees get first dibs champ.

[mcphee]

LEOs are very informed of the laws they’re paid to enforce and never, ever lie.

[rideit]

So your telling a full time van guy who has stayed near Jackson dozens of times over the years that it's not possible? Wtf. You must live near Benny in Connecticut.

Jackson allows overnight parking near the rec center in the center of town.

I literally talked a a sheriff explained I was thinking of working in town etc. All good.

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This is definitely incorrect information.
Sure, you could get lucky…but technically, no sleeping in vehicles of any kind is allowed in town, and you can be ticketed, and/or told to leave privately owned parking lots, such as the grocery stores, powderhorn plaza (REI) , etc, etc. They usually leave the fancier/neater rigs alone, but hassle some skidmobiles that they see too often. All of those classic RV spots near the rec center have been eliminated with bike lane bollards, fwiw.

[byates1]

Joe Rice owns 7 restaurants and counting in Jackson and likes me very much.

I also do private work for " ppl of means"

It's not that fucking complicated

[rideit]

Joe rice owns apartment buildings for his employees, but doesn’t own parking spots, except his own. However, I think he rents all of his restaurant spaces, and not the lots. (?) Maybe the new Sidewinders if you know him, (owned by Fine Dining Group) but I don’t think his employees are allowed to live out of vehicles at any those properties.

[neckdeep]

So your telling a full time van guy who has stayed near Jackson dozens of times over the years that it's not possible?

I am telling you that the rules changed dramatically two years ago. Look it up, dumbass.

[byates1]

Rules? Ha.

[byates1]

Joe rice owns apartment buildings for his employees, but doesn’t own parking spots, except his own. However, he rents all of his restaurant spaces, and not the lots. Maybe the new Sidewinders if you know him, but I don’t think his employees are allowed to live out of vehicles at those properties.

Exactly. I have permission to stay on property. Never needed it.

There is a vet clinic heading out of town, w a steep climb up a road behind it that dead ends in a storage area. Perfect.

Any pullout on the Idaho side of the pass. And pullout heading to alpine. The pullout out by the airport.

Anywhere really. But what do I know. I've only been doing it all over the united states' full time for the last three years.

[byates1]

Pretty sure Joe owns most of his places land and all.

[rideit]

Nope, he surely doesn’t. Maybe one or two.
It’s in the public records, though.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Everyone heading to Jackson to live that #vanlife, just call up Joe Rice when you get there.

Tell him byates1 sent ya!

[byates1]

It's prob the parent company he and his army buddies own.

Lets move on to hearing about how neck deep looks up all the rules and how excited he is for his big Colorado ski vacation next year..

[rideit]

No, it’s a variety of different owners who rent to him.
You need to stop, you really don’t know what you are talking about.
At least two are my wife’s clients.

[mcphee]

Joe Rice owns 7 restaurants and counting in Jackson and likes me very much.

“Daddy”

[neckdeep]

It's prob the parent company he and his army buddies own.

Lets move on to hearing about how neck deep looks up all the rules and how excited he is for his big Colorado ski vacation next year..

I don't have to look it up. It's been in the local paper. Those of us who actually live here know these things. We can see the changes brought about by douchebag upscale vanlifers who scoff at the rules.

Just try to poach campsites on shadow or curtis and see how long that works out for ya.

[byates1]

Semantics. But you are a Jackson og, noone is a cool as you. Right on.

[byates1]

I don't have to look it up. It's been in the local paper. Those of us who actually live here know these things. We can see the changes brought about by douchebag upscale vanlifers who scoff at the rules.

Just try to poach campsites on shadow or curtis and see how long that works out for ya.

Wait so you're now blaming van lifers for the changes in Jackson. Wow.

What's a campsite?