Utah Beer Myths

[Steven S. Dallas]

I heard that the more Utah beer I drink, the wittier and handsomer I become and the prettier ugly girls get. Is that true?

[stump832]

I heard that the more Utah beer I drink, the wittier and handsomer I become and the prettier ugly girls get. Is that true?

Speaking from personal experience, yes, you are right.

[Buzzworthy]

Buzz not so sure that you both are wrong or right for that matter.

I think that SB is highlighting a QC standard inherent w/ the NB brewery. My take is that the Idaho distribution house that sells to La Tienda doesn't give a shit because its much lower volume- than selling pallets of product to a state where a bottle could sit for months in the heat and certainly spoil.

my 2pesos

Point taken.

But it won't sit more than a few weeks at La T. That place sells a lot, I should know, I have spent lots there.

I routinely buy out of state beer and bring it in for personal consumption, even got pulled over once with 10 cases less than a mile from my house and 3 miles from the Idaho beer store (I was not driving, I was having the party, cop knew which house was mine and let us go on and said he would look later for drunk drivers).

So I just called the Utah Bevarage Control board to find out what the law excatly is, since I do this on a regular basis and cops set up right on the border know this. I am waiting for a call back. I will post my findings.

this is where I found the number: http://www.alcbev.state.ut.us/Liquor..._visitors.html

[72Twenty]

You need a decoy to counteract this. Send someone in first with a pickup, bed empty. Once at the beer store, buy keg, put in trunk of second car or van or whatever. Put something in the bed of the truck that looks like a keg, and cover it with a tarp. Be creative. Maybe some manure or some other legal but disgusting object to fuck with the cops. Have truck go back and see if he gets pulled over.

I highly reccomend this. But use either roadkill or blowup sex dolls.

[KennyG]

KennyG what is this ACLU production you speak of? Is it in transcript form or other? Where might it be available for an upstanding citizen like my self?

I mis-spoke it's actually made by the people over at flexyourrights.org I have a bootlegged copy I got off the internet. They seem to be giving them away at their website for a $20 donation to their organization. Go check em out.

http://www.flexyourrights.org/

[Buzzworthy]

Wow, I am surprised. They actually called me back.


Yep, DTM is right, you are allowed to bring into Utah NO out of state alcohol for personal consumption.

[Ski Monkey]

Wow, I am surprised. They actually called me back.


Yep, DTM is right, you are allowed to bring into Utah NO out of state alcohol for personal consumption.

There is a one time exemption however for people moving into the state and have things like thousand dollar wine collections.

[Dantheman]

Wow, I am surprised. They actually called me back.


Yep, DTM is right, you are allowed to bring into Utah NO out of state alcohol for personal consumption.

What if it's not intended for consumption? Like if you needed it to lube up your chili slip 'n' slide.

[daPig]

Seems the thing to do is make sure you put all of your beer in the trunk. Search and seizure laws are much more strict when it comes to cops opening your trunk. They can nose around and look in your windows but your trunk is considered a private area and therefore requires more cause to open. A speeding, tags, insurance violation is minor and does not constitute any reason to open your trunk. I guess you would need a big trunk to hold a keg but this could apply to a pickup truck cap as well (as long as there is something to block direct view through the side windows).

[Buzzworthy]

What if it's not intended for consumption? Like if you needed it to lube up your chili slip 'n' slide.

Do I need to make another call for ya?




Back to drinking Utah beer I guess, which I have to drive from my house about 20 minutes, or I could go to Idaho, buy normal beer only 4 miles from my house and break the law everytime doing it. Hmmmmm................

WWMD?


Monkey, she said about that too. One time my ass. How bout once a week?

[KennyG]

I bet you are allowed to travel through the state. I highly doubt Coors drives arround the entire fucking state to deliver beer to Nevada and Colorado.

[Buzzworthy]

Seems the thing to do is make sure you put all of your beer in the trunk.

Hell, in the summer I bungee cord a 30 pack to my motorcycle. More times than I can count, right by the counties from both ID and UT sides. NEVER been pulled over. I think I won't worry much about this law in the sticks I live in.


I won't be doing a multiple keg run though like I had planned for Buzzapalooza this year.

[Danno]

I bet you are allowed to travel through the state. I highly doubt Coors drives arround the entire fucking state to deliver beer to Nevada and Colorado.

that exception to the law was discussed earlier in the thread. However, just because Coors can do it doesn't necessarily mean an individual can do the same...

[Dantheman]

I won't be doing a multiple keg run though like I had planned for Buzzapalooza this year.

Easy there buddy, let's not start talking crazy talk. A mission as noble as Buzzapalooza cannot be given up on so easily.

[Egon]

yes, keg in the trunk would be best.
I considered getting a permit for a kegger in a few weeks (i'm graduating), but it turns out that's illegal too: (UDABC response)

In the State of Utah, kegs are restricted to licensed retailers only. If someone wants a temporary beer permit, they must be conducting a convention, civic, or community enterprise. A private party does not qualify as this type of event. So the bottom line is - You cannot have a permit or a keg for your private party in the State of Utah. Sorry

John Bryant
Compliance Investigator

Well spent state tax money right there.

On the agenda for tonight: box o' wine, brass monkey. Happy friday all.

edit- if buzzapalooza is a 'community enterprise' its legal

[teleee]

I maintain a vehicle with Wyoming plates and one of the premiere benefit is frequent keg runs from Salt Lake to Evanston. If you are really worried about getting busted hauling in the goods there is a dirt road from Evanston through Chalk Creek that comes out in Coalville.

[Cyber Cop]

See,it's true.... ^^^^^ the ghost of Al Capone lives.

[Buzzworthy]

Easy there buddy, let's not start talking crazy talk. A mission as noble as Buzzapalooza cannot be given up on so easily.

Oh man, weak moment I just had there. Your are right Sir DTM! Creative thinking will be the key. And Telee's truck.


Gots a few ideas already.

[teleee]

And Telee's truck

My truck is gladly available for such a noble cause!

[cololi]

No myths here, the better half is out with friends, the kids are in bed, and I'm kicking down some cold cheap ass grocery store goods. #6 and counting.

[Free Range Lobster]

Premo Import (Guiness, Corona, New Castle)

whoa whoa whoa these are not "premo import"s

Aventinus
Berliner
Duvel
Samuel Smiths
etc. are all "premo" imports.

But you're only 22, you wouldn't know any better.

[SkiingBear]

The way they brew their beer, it won't spoil for many many months.

Not true. NB does not heat pasteurize their beer. It's that process that allows beer to be stored warm and not spoil (see Coors for another example, it's never stored warm, always kept cold...not saying Coors and NB are comparable in taste).

A Chemical Engineering friend from college got a job as a beer engineer with Anheiser Busch and confirmed this explanation.

Sorry, but it's true, beers that are not heat pasteurized and are not kept cold spoil rapidly (in a matter of days).

[Woodsy]

it seems the localculture used to follow the Aristotelean Mean:
intersting at least, and the time of year people should read this.

Beehive State Brew
Utah has a heady beer-making tradition, say author, collector
By Kathy Stephenson
The Salt Lake Tribune
This time of year travelers from all over the world come to Utah for ski vacations, winter sports competitions and - starting tomorrow - the 10-day Sundance Film Festival.
These guests likely have heard plenty of tales of Utah's teetotaling ways.
But few visitors - not to mention some longtime residents - may not realize that the Beehive State has a rich beer-making history. And it began shortly after the the Mormon pioneers arrived.
No kidding!
Years ago, beer didn't just flow in the capital city. Small breweries dotted the landscape from Ogden, Manti, Logan, Alta to Parleys Canyon, usually set up near a fast, clear-running stream, a necessity for proper brewing.
Still can't believe it? The proof is in Stan Sanders' private memorabilia collection.
Sanders, a self-described "saver", has an entire room devoted to Utah beer. Some call it the "Smithsonian" of Beehive brews.
On the shelves there are old brown bottles with raised lettering from the Henry Wagener Brewing Co. in Salt Lake City and green bottles with faded Becker Beer labels, one of Ogden's most successful breweries.
On the walls, there are posters and light-up signs that advertise using beautiful women and catchy slogans such as "Sparkle Brewed to the Altitude" and "Pure as the Breath of Spring."
Sanders has Advertisement
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collected plenty of other beer swag, too: matchbooks, ashtrays, pocket mirrors, salt and pepper shakers, light-switch covers and bottle openers that tout Utah beers.
"At one time, there was an awful lot of brewing going on in Utah," says Sanders, who will turn 80 this year.
Indeed, Utah was once the crossroads of the West, so there were plenty of travelers stopping in for a drink. But that couldn't account for all the beer that was consumed, said Sanders, during a recent interview at his Salt Lake City home. The locals had to be downing their fair share as well.
"I know they say the Mormons don't drink [alcohol]," he said, "But I don't know who else drank it."
Many of those early beer consumers were the German, Irish and Italian immigrants who came to work in the Utah mines, said Del Vance, author of the new publication Beer in the Beehive: A History of Brewing in Utah. The self-published book is available for $32.95 at Ken Sanders' Rare Books, 268 S. 200 East, Salt Lake City. (Ken is Stan Sander's son.)Back then there was no refrigeration and preservatives that allowed beer to be shipped long distances. Local breweries had to supply what these workers - notorious for their love of beer - needed, said Vance.
"I was surprised that when I started researching the topic there were so many [breweries] in Utah, said Vance, who spent the last two years conducting research for the book which combines his two favorite topics: beer and history. The 315-page book includes Utah and American beer history as well as profiles of more than two dozen historical and modern-day Utah breweries. It also includes many photographs from Sanders' beer memorabilia collection.
Wagener, Becker and Fisher beers were the largest Utah breweries, but there were smaller operations, such as Philadelphia Brewery, P. Buller and Grove. A few were even owned by faithful members of the Mormon church.
"The early pioneers seemed to live by a different set of rules than today," Vance wrote. "They believed in moderation rather than total abstinence from alcohol. Like the Puritans before them they didn't consider beer to be liquor - yet."
For example, a Mormon named Richard Bishop Margetts started Salt Lake City's Utah Brewery and Brigham Young's bodyguard Orrin Porter Rockwell was an owner of the Hot Spring Brewery Hotel near the Point of the Mountain. The brewery claimed to produce up to 500 gallons - about 16 barrels - of "good lager beer" a day, according to Beer in the Beehive.
While focused on beer, Vance's book does mention the fact that Mormons produced their own brand of whiskey, called Valley Tan. It was considered one of the better brands in the West and earned praise from many, including British adventurer Captain Richard F. Burton and Mark Twain.
Even the Mormon-owned department store, Zion's Co-operative Mercantile Institution (ZCMI) sold beer, wine and liquor at its downtown store.
"By 1870, three-fourths of the state's revenue came from the sale of alcoholic beverages," said Vance.
Prohibition, of course, ended all commercial brewing. (Ironically, Utah was the 36th and deciding state to ratify the 21st Amendment ending national prohibition.)
By then, however, the attitude toward liquor had permanently changed in the state. The Word of Wisdom - a code of health which prohibits Mormons from consuming alcohol and other harmful substances - may have originated in 1833, but not all Mormons followed it strictly until 1921, when adherence was required in order to be worthy of entering a sacred church temple.
In the past decade, Utah brewing has made a comeback, with more than a dozen microbreweries operating in the state. Many of the brews have won gold, silver and bronze medals at the Great American Beer Festival as well as the World Beer Cup competitions.
It was that recent beer-making success that inspired Vance to write Beer in the Beehive.
"We have some of the best microbrewed beer in the country," he said. "I wanted to refute the image of Utah being a dry, dull boring state."
Utah Beer timeline
1864: Henry Wagener, a 26-year-old German immigrant, establishes the first major commercial brewery in Utah at the mouth of Emigration Canyon.
1871:Jacob Moritz, a 27-year-old German immigrant founded the Salt Lake City Brewing Co. on 500 South and 1000 East.
1884: The A. Fisher Brewing Co. is founded. It eventually becomes Utah's largest brewery.
1903:Carrie Nation, the grandmotherly leader of the Women's Temperance Christian Union comes to Utah for the annual LDS General Conference hoping to recruit attendees to her crusade against alcohol and tobacco.
1917:Utah is one of 21 states to adopt a statewide prohibition on liquor.
1933: Utah becomes the 36th and deciding state to ratify the 21st Amendment ending national prohibition.
1967: Lucky Lager Brewing Co. (formerly A. Fisher Brewing Co.) closed its doors leaving Utah with no local breweries for the first time in more than a century.
1986: Schirf Brewing Co. established, ending a 19-year drought of craft beer in Utah.
2005:Uinta Brewing Co. sold more than 15,000 barrels of beer, moving it out of the smaller "microbrewery" category and into the group known as regional specialty brewers.

[haydukelives]

buy a 1.75 l vodka for $11, and add the amount it takes to raise the alcohol of your grocery beer to whatever level you like. 1.5 oz adds 5%. 1 oz is about right for me. and polygamy porter is not bad

[mrkristofo]

this thread makes me wonder...shall we start a collective and ongoing "B-double-E-double-R-U-N" to 'yomin thread to maximize this "wasted gas"?

I'm always willing to thrown down for 24 New Belgiums when someone's heading out of state. Hell, I'd even kick a couple towards the driver. At that rate, they could get a 12er of free, real beer pretty quick.