What do you all think of surefoot? I have heard a mixed bag of reviews on the total product you get from them, namely that their footbeds blow. However, many a person have said their foam jobs are the best. Comments....
What do you all think of surefoot? I have heard a mixed bag of reviews on the total product you get from them, namely that their footbeds blow. However, many a person have said their foam jobs are the best. Comments....
Try the search function, JONG!
But since you have no idea how to do that here's an existing thread that should answer your questions: http://tetongravity.com/forums/showt...light=surefoot
Last edited by BRUTAH; 11-21-2005 at 09:57 AM.
I have Surefoot liners and footbeds in a Tecnica Diablo Magnesium shell. Very happy with the comfort and performance. Surefoot as a company has been great to deal with in my experience. Good luck.
super happy w/ both my footbeds and foam liners... would recommend to anyone. the liner is stiffer than a stock liner FYI
Bootfitting and footbeds depend primarily on the skill and experience of the operator. If you go to Sorefoot and work with a bootfitter w/ lots of experience and knowledge, you'll probably get good results. If you work with a young whippersnapper who has only been doing work for a year or two, maybe not so good.
That said, it's not necessary to spend $1000 on your boots to get a good fit.
Got a pair and they're on their second pair of boots and easily over 300 days on them. I'd have to say that I'm very pleased with them.
I ski surefoot footbeds as well. I do agree that you need an expeirenece "fitter" to get the result your looking for. With that said, I would go to a Sure foot in a ski town to buy. You just got a better chance of getting a good job done in a ski town......you know since the really commited skiers live close to thier passion!
BRUTAH........grow up........your a dork for calling anyone a JONG!
Surefoots rock. I have them in my Salomon Pro Models and they are great. I severly overpronate and they correct the problem quite well. I also wear them in my everyday shoes and use them for skateboarding.
Salt, Sweat, Sugar on the asphalt
I don't doubt that surefoot footbeds work fine for some, but they really do suck. If you compare my footbeds they made to the ones I had Snowcovers (best bootfitters in N. Amer.) in Whistler (also in Vancouver) make, it's like night and day. You can get better footbeds made for $100 and put the rest into some foam liners. Their beds are way too thick and cup at the sides, which resulted in the bending of my foot and severe arch boot pain I always blamed on my boots and liners, thinking my $200 beds should be doing their part. Some $30 superfeet relieved the pain tremendously. I still need to cash in on thier 100 percent satisfaction guarentee.
If you have the chance to visit Snowcovers do it, or find a tech who was trained by them. They also grind soles to take care of pro/suppnating. World cup racers swear by their work.
ROBOTS ARE EATING MY FACE.
Got about 50 days on the foot beds and only 10 on the foam lines and love them
That make me think their liners suck too, or whoever fitted them sucks. Foam liners should take at least 20 full days to begin to break in. They shouldn't be that comfy right out of the shop, but once the effort and time is put in to break them in, they should last you for years.Originally Posted by matt
Unless they did thermoflexes for you. Thats a different story.
ROBOTS ARE EATING MY FACE.
I never mentioned anything about them being very comfortable.Originally Posted by bossass
They are tight as fuck and the first 3 days were rough. I really like how stiff they are and I have never had a boot that was nice and uniformly tight all around.
Oh and by the way... I am 6'5 230 so I am bangin some extra weight into them so yes they will break in faster than some 150# squirt![]()
i have about 200-220 days on mine (and the're still going strong) it took about 20-30 days for them to break-in for my 215lb body.Originally Posted by bossass
the qulaity of surefoot is directly related to how good the fitter is. if you are going to do it, pick a place where they do it a ton (ie on mountain), and find out who the manager/most senior guy there is, and have him do it.
FWIW: tyler at keystone is the MANG
Surefoot uses a couple of different materials for their footbeds depending upon whether you want them just for skiing (stiffer material) vs for all purpose (softer material). I went with the stiffer footbed because I wanted it for skiing only, but I'm thinking now maybe I should have gone with the softer all purpose footbed. I'm still having some problems with the fit of the footbed, which I'm trying to fine tune with them. I think I might end up getting them to redo it all together.
Which type did you others go for?
I have the tan(stiffer) footbeds in my alpine and touring boots, the white ones(softer, reduced arch) in my street shoes. I have about 330 days on my foam liners and beds in three years and they are the best fitting and performing boots I've had. Break in took me about 5-10 days.
The amfit system is probably the nicest to work with on the market but is still very prone to operator error... Same goes for conform'able liners.
The surefoot money back guarantee helps, as does the fact they will back that guarantee in any of their stores. But that said, the quality and performance of your fit depends entirely on the person who's doing the work. And in my experiences, surefoot boot salesmen are not all created equal.
With respect to the two hardness options, I've found the white ones most suitable for lightweight skiers or those who needed a lot of correction. For the rest of us, the tans should be fine as long as the scanning and installation were done correctly.
I personally don't like Sure Foot.... with that said I have friends who love them! Who knew when I moved away from VT. 3 years ago that I left some of the best boot fitters arround. On one access road there were like 5 to 7 certified pedorthists! Between Summit and Eagle counties I have located maybe 3. However{ shame less plug as this guy has hooked me up for the last 3 years} I have been extremely happy with Adam at Gravity Jones{one of few certified pedorthist in the area} " this guy know his shit" He also happens to mold all the medical orthotics for local Eagle and Summit podiatrists! IMO after having access to some of the best boot fitters in VT{ GMOL, Peak Performance, and Northern Ski Works}. I honestly was not impressed with Sure Foot. but I am sure that comes down to the "boot fitter" not all Sure Foot shops. I always felt like they kept pushing me to there custom foam liner $$$ even w/ hook up, when all I honestly needed was a $75 Thermoflex!
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There seems to be a theme to what people are saying in these Surefoot threads I searched for - get someone who has been around a while. I've pretty much decided to get a pair of Surefoots with custom liners for Christmas (thanks, wifey!), and I'm probably going to end up in their NYC store.. has anyone ever gotten theirs done there, who can recommend somebody?
'tanks
-steve
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also foam = great fit, but cold.
Make sure the "new kid" doesn't do em. Easy to screw up and you only get one shot at getting them right
well, one of the reasons i like surefoot is they have a store at mammoth, which is where i'm going to be using them for the first time (mountain creek notwithstanding).. so I could actually ski down and get them taken care of.
I could also just get them at Mammoth when I'm there, but that's a December 26th arrival... and I would like to avoid the holiday rush. Or am I just overthinking things?
-steve
I had only good experiences with Surefoot. Ted, at The Canyons, has fitted boots for me and my 2 kids. He did a good job with my footbeds, and my kids don't complain. In fact, I was there today. My daughter's footbeds were 1.5 years old. She had outgrown them and the shell. Ted spent an hour with her. The footbeds were replaced free of charge, and she received $105 (1/2 the price of her 2 year old Langes) off of her new Tecnica Race Pro 70s ($290 - $105 = $185 for new boots and custom footbeds).
I have Intuition liners, so I can't comment on their injection.
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I have Surefoot footbeds and love them. I like them much better than the two-piece insoles I had before. I often take my footbeds out at night. The constant in-out (I ride 40-60 days/season) tends to make the two-piece ones delaminate. The foam ones from Surefoot are perfect. The initial cost is high, but I've had mine now for about 5 seasons. Definitely got my $$ worth. Plus they'll do any tweaking of the shells to make the boots fit as a complementary part of making you insoles.
Haven't had them foam liners for me before, but they certainly do a ton of it. I get the impression they'd rather sell you that than mess with tweaking liners sometimes. I've been in the Squaw store and watched them do 3-4 foamed liners in 90 minutes.
The deal that Schindler references is a great one. Surefoot's deal for kids is pay once and they'll remake their footbeds every year until the kid's feet stop growing. Both my kids have custom insoles and we've bought my son's Langes there each year he's needed them. They give a great "rebate" on old boots bought there toward a new boot for kids. Plus last year my son actually was able to use the same boots for a second year in a row. They just punched out the shell a little for a weird bump he has on the inside of each foot and he was good to go.
Its funny because there's another bootfitter in Squaw that I actually prefer for most stuff. I get my boots from Elite Feet, but still have my insoles from Surefoot. I'm going to try to convince Surefoot to get one of the foam insole machines like Surefoot uses (Granite Chief has the same Amfit system). If I can't, I'm going to have to get my next insoles from Surefoot again. That will be awkward given how much I like the Elite Feet guys, and how often I'm in their shop, but I'll probably still do it. The two-piece vs. one-piece thing is the deal breaker for me. Surefoot's insoles are definitely more durable than the vacuum-made two piece ones. Plus they can re-make them with the stored computer mold any time necessary.
Just be aware that you are going to get a sales pitch for all their other stuff if you are there. Other stuff includes foam injected liners, golf shoes, etc. I've found them to be low pressure about it, but its clearly what drives their business model.
Oh, one other nice thing about Surefoot. I can go to any Surefoot with my boots if I have a problem. I happen to mostly ski in Tahoe, but if I'm in Mammoth, Park City, CO, etc., I can still go get a problem addressed (think broken buckle).
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In any case, if you're ever really in this situation make sure you at least bargain in a couple of fluffers.
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