Waxing irons - dedicated wax iron or just get something from thrift store?

[RShea]

4 out of 5 dentists recommend Star or Holmenkol for the nice cork handle

I collected them in a plastic bag and then one timea surfer asked what I was going to do with them. Instead of tossing them he wanted them for his surf board bottom...

[RShea]

So those that have the convex waxing iron. Unless it is convex both directions, what would stop you from turning the iron 90 degrees and have each of the convex edges then touch the ski?

[tuco]

Dripping and scraping is a big mess that I'd prefer to avoid. If it worked better it might be worth it, but it doesn't.

I ski a lot w/ a dude that owns a ski shop. I can watch the dude pull away from me gliding flats--trust me, it makes a difference!

[californiagrown]

Id think at Alpy, storms lean towards wetter snow, dont your skis get sticky or glopped up sometimes?.

When storms come in warm, the sheer density and funky layers are usually the noticable thing about the snow, to me. Personally, the only time i notice sticky snow at Alpy is late spring... pretty much never midseason even on warm days. I always say to friends, and i think its true... if the snow is sticky find something steeper... or bumpy. And alpy pretty much only has that.

Just had to SimpleGreen the shit out of my touring skis to get pollen/sap off them. Now im wondering if i should wax with warm wax or alltemp, becuase im going to do a halfassed scrape and dont really want to foul my skin glue... but also warm wax would certainly suit the conditions for any forthcoming June tours. Decisions, decisions.

[XXX-er]

warm wax n scrape is a good way to clean a base

[Dantheman]

I ski a lot w/ a dude that owns a ski shop. I can watch the dude pull away from me gliding flats--trust me, it makes a difference!

If he owns a ski shop I suspect there's more going on than just differences in waxing technique. Personally, I noticed zero difference after I switched from drip/iron/scrape to crayon/iron/no scrape. The only wax that matters is the wax that is absorbed by the pores in the PTEX. Nothing is actually left on the ski after half a run at most.

[XXX-er]

i think base structure and quality of base might be huge-er than we think


I got some 2nd gen verdicts with a deep rill pattern P-tex from china that were slow compared to buddies i was skiing with but got faster as the weatehr got less cold and the snow got more wet

[jackstraw]

If he owns a ski shop I suspect there's more going on than just differences in waxing technique. Personally, I noticed zero difference after I switched from drip/iron/scrape to crayon/iron/no scrape. The only wax that matters is the wax that is absorbed by the pores in the PTEX. Nothing is actually left on the ski after half a run at most.

I think he glides like Bill Johnson. That is a bigger difference.

i think base structure is huge-er than we think

Absolutely. Especially wet snow.

[Djongo Unchained]

Wax race.

Whos in?

[jackstraw]

Wax race.

Whos in?

I'm fucking in! Switch to the road!

[Djongo Unchained]

I'm fucking in! Switch to the road!

FKNA suhweeeet!

Id love to beam around the vill witcha. Maybe next season? Interested in some EuroBBI?
Thats going on the shortlist of events for next spring in Suisseland.
You know, bitd, we had to haul ass from the top of casper to get to thunder before the tramriders did. Learning to glide as fast as possible from the Doug crew was an early lesson. Dudes were like the wind and always got the best first tracks.

If youre not fast nowadays, yer fuckin 37th.

[tuco]

If he owns a ski shop I suspect there's more going on than just differences in waxing technique. Personally, I noticed zero difference after I switched from drip/iron/scrape to crayon/iron/no scrape. The only wax that matters is the wax that is absorbed by the pores in the PTEX. Nothing is actually left on the ski after half a run at most.

I collected them in a plastic bag and then one timea surfer asked what I was going to do with them. Instead of tossing them he wanted them for his surf board bottom...

The difference is definitely the waxing, his skis get waxed over n over! But I thought you were talking the difference from wax vs bareball'n

[tuco]

That wasn't meant to include RShea

[jackstraw]

FKNA suhweeeet!

Id love to beam around the vill witcha. Maybe next season? Interested in some EuroBBI?
Thats going on the shortlist of events for next spring in Suisseland.
You know, bitd, we had to haul ass from the top of casper to get to thunder before the tramriders did. Learning to glide as fast as possible from the Doug crew was an early lesson. Dudes were like the wind and always got the best first tracks.

If youre not fast nowadays, yer fuckin 37th.

Yeah, not sure I'll make it to the village next yr or not. You ditched to euroland last time I was there! [emoji16]

My ski vaca are reserved for my kids. BC and Euro are on the short list for next year. Trying to hit as many new spots as possible before I'm dead

[tuco]

If he owns a ski shop I suspect there's more going on than just differences in waxing technique. Personally, I noticed zero difference after I switched from drip/iron/scrape to crayon/iron/no scrape. The only wax that matters is the wax that is absorbed by the pores in the PTEX. Nothing is actually left on the ski after half a run at most.

Trying to wrap my head around why crayoning wax on and ironing in vs dripping then ironing would produce a differing result. The only difference I see in your statement is the scrape vs no scrape! So why not just say scrape vs no scrape? Don't see why the wax transfer mode matters here! I drip because it's faster than crayoning(for me) but that doesn't mean it's any less efficient on wax or scraping. I don't have wax running down my sidewalls onto the floor. I'm pretty judicious w/ the wax and also end w/ no scrape. During the cold season, I'll scrape though, I do think it affects glide then. I do enough traversing out and then back to lift that no glide wears you the fuck out!
One of the things my buddy used to use was Zardoz, but last I checked it was phased out over forever chemicals. I know he's not grinding a spring structure though

[buttahflake]

Fucking western skiers are dumb as fuck

[tuco]

Yet somehow we can figure out how to do a Shift mount w/ out the toepiece falling off whilst skiing---go figure

[buttahflake]

Never happened, nice try though

[XXX-er]

""Trying to wrap my head around why crayoning wax on and ironing in vs dripping then ironing would produce a differing result. The only difference I see in your statement is the scrape vs no scrape! So why not just say scrape vs no scrape? Don't see why the wax transfer mode matters here! I drip because it's faster than crayoning(for me) but that doesn't mean it's any less efficient on wax or scraping. I don't have wax running down my sidewalls onto the floor. I'm pretty judicious w/ the wax and also end w/ no scrape. During the cold season, I'll scrape though, I do think it affects glide then. I do enough traversing out and then back to lift that no glide wears you the fuck out!''


I had some blue on the tail of a ski I didnt quite all get and it was there for most of the season until i scraped it off so i donot buy into the no scraping needed


I was the topside go-for at national ski X so I hung out with the wax tech at the top, buddy had waxed in town the night before for -5 then before each run he crayoned in a little piece of nasty fluro the size of my finger which he then corked in he then roto brushed the fuck out ot that ski so this guy was getting paid to take off every bit of wax and or every bit of fluro this was the nationals so he must be good cuz they pay him to do this

[tuco]

Never happened, nice try though

You sure? I mean, I remember the thread rip started, w/ pics and you as the stated "supervisor"!

[tuco]

""Trying to wrap my head around why crayoning wax on and ironing in vs dripping then ironing would produce a differing result. The only difference I see in your statement is the scrape vs no scrape! So why not just say scrape vs no scrape? Don't see why the wax transfer mode matters here! I drip because it's faster than crayoning(for me) but that doesn't mean it's any less efficient on wax or scraping. I don't have wax running down my sidewalls onto the floor. I'm pretty judicious w/ the wax and also end w/ no scrape. During the cold season, I'll scrape though, I do think it affects glide then. I do enough traversing out and then back to lift that no glide wears you the fuck out!'' I had some blue on the tail of a ski I didnt quite all get and it was there for most of the season until i scraped it off so i donot buy into the no scraping needed I was the topside go-for at national ski X so I hung out with the wax tech at the top, buddy had waxed in town the night before for -5 then before each run he crayoned in a little piece of nasty fluro the size of my finger which he then corked in he then roto brushed the fuck out ot that ski so this guy was getting paid to take off every bit of wax and or every bit of fluro this was the nationals so he must be good cuz they pay him to do this

I collected them in a plastic bag and then one timea surfer asked what I was going to do with them. Instead of tossing them he wanted them for his surf board bottom...

Tips and tails don't wear away like the middle of a ski. You know, like the area you're standing over! Damage from rocks is generally worse under foot too

Didn't I state that I scrape when it's cold? Looks like I did to me. I don't tune or wax for racing dude

[XXX-er]

I have heard folks claim not scraping prevents base damage from rocks !


a good reason to knot scrape is you lost your scraper the kids Biathalon coach told me every year he gets a bunch cut at the plastic shop



and every year they all have dissappeared by end of season

[coldfeet]

I use a little waxing iron I got on sale at steepandcheap many years ago. It says Dakine on it but has not turned my skis into a snowboard yet. I've used a thrift store iron, but the wax iron is less of a PITA.

I ski much less than most of you, but I don't get the "I don't wax my skis because I only ski in these three types of snow" thing. If you aren't trying to do a fancy race tune, it's not that hard. Drip or crayon some wax on, run the iron over it a few times, scrape it with some piece of plastic, brush it with any old stiff nylon brush (can probably use a shoe brush). If that's all too hard, just get some of the spray-on glide wax they sell to put on the glide zones of waxless XC skis. It's better than having snow stick to your bases. Leave the snow on the ski hill where it belongs.

[XXX-er]

If any of you were really baller you would drop your skis off at the ski shop to be waxed

[bodywhomper]

During some really warm workdays this spring(afternoons where I normally would not be lapping the groomers if I wasn’t working), I started rubbing on f4. It made a noticeable difference. It was also very noticeable when it was worn off a 5k vert feet later.


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