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Thread: Bindings, what do you set yours at?

  1. #26
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    10-11

    I'm 5'9" and about 175. I prerelease easily in the 7-8 range. The bindings release at the right times in my range without preleasing, but handle the gnar fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seatosky
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    I'm 5'9" ,158 lbs, & ski 912 ti's
    I ski at 10 early season,& later in the season ,like Spinal Tap,I go to 11.
    Calmer than you dude

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    i rock my s900 sollies green springs at 15

    i'm 6'3" 220lbs. ski race background.

    yeah it's a high din, but it works for me. skis stay on till they really need to come off. tried rocking standard 14 binders but the springs are so packed out at 14 that their elasticity is shot thus you come out way more that you like.

    this works for me, but i don't advocate anybody else do it unless they know what they are getting into.

  5. #30
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    i actually change my binding setting depending on what i am skiing. I am about 5 9 and 145lbs. on my park skis i like about a 8-9, and the same for simple low speed powder skiing. This is both because they are shorter skis, and I don't need as tight of a hold. Cruising groomers and small cliffs onto corn, etc around 10-12, and for decent sized hucks (nothing even close to 100+ for me) and steep high speed stuff, abotu 14 or so. However, i want bindings that go up to at least 16, preferably 18 for big mountain skis like my ak rockets, because it is a verybad idea to ski bindings turned all the way up. Also, the higher the binding goes, the stronger the binding is, at least ussualy, so its nice to have burly bindings you know you won't break, even if you never turn them within 4 of thier top din.

  6. #31
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    6'2 200lbs freestyle background

    i use rossi 14 din race spring bindings. I always crank them up all the way and then do a half turn back, that is supposedly the strongest your bindings will hold.

    like BC-FLOW said, I don't want my skis to come off till they have to. Ejectin' sucks and is not that stylish establish looking for your skion a powder day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z
    Last year had a pair of S900s. Started em out 1 above my chart range, 9-10. Ended up not being happy with em even set at 13.

    On the other hand, all my 8-18 binders are set at 11 and i couldnt be happier with em.

    Anyone have a similiar experience?
    Yeah - you need to be set at the middle of the spring's range. The highest you should crank the S900's to would be 12. 13 and 14 are just there to let you know they can handle 12. The higher tension range you have, the lower you can set your binders within your ideal range. If you have a 14 spring, and set it to the max, you will be releasing all over the chart with little truth to the setting's specs.

    When I run my S900's at 12, they are fine, despite having 400 days on them. At 13, they pre-release. Being that you are a tall guy with a lot of leverage, you should be riding looks (and I think that you are). They are the least likely to pre- forward or due to a de-camber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRUTAH
    I always crank them up all the way and then do a half turn back, that is supposedly the strongest your bindings will hold.
    I have heard different- that most bindings don't work well if they are less than 2 from the minimum or maximum setting. That could be the reason some people complain about prereleasing even on high settings. Those who complain that they prerelease too much when their bindings are at 11- was the maximum setting 12? If the answer is yes, you might not have the same problem skiing at 11 on a binding with a max of 14.
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    6'2" 180lbs. I ski around 12-13 on 16 binders, but crank the fwd pressure a little. Also, I'm sure most people knowthis, but some mightn't: it's super important to get the toe height and wing adjustments right on saloman bindings, and check em once in a while, THEY DO NEED REGULAR ADJUSTMENT.

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    The other item most people are forgetting here (not all it has been mentioned by a few) is your boot sole length. I am 5'8" and about 155 I have a 315ish bootsole and run about a 9-10. This is above the recommended setting I believe. If I had a size 13 shoe which would be about a 335 mm boot sole I would run a lower din. It's all physics boys, your bootsole is the lever that the forces travel through. Longer the bootsole the less energy that gets to the ends so you have to run a lower DIN to allow your release. This is a very important and often overlooked part of the equation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dside11-11
    Yeah - you need to be set at the middle of the spring's range. The highest you should crank the S900's to would be 12. 13 and 14 are just there to let you know they can handle 12. The higher tension range you have, the lower you can set your binders within your ideal range. If you have a 14 spring, and set it to the max, you will be releasing all over the chart with little truth to the setting's specs.

    When I run my S900's at 12, they are fine, despite having 400 days on them. At 13, they pre-release. Being that you are a tall guy with a lot of leverage, you should be riding looks (and I think that you are). They are the least likely to pre- forward or due to a de-camber.
    Yeah im on look/rossi's. Just feel weird riding race stocks when i ended last season on a 11-12. Not really in the middle of that spring either. But whatever. I'll just set em at 18 this winter. Bitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LIP
    Think I would rather find my buddys instead of their skis, or their dogs for that matter.
    Thought they had special ones just for skiis with a different frequency?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GFP
    What do you consider the greater evil: pre-release in the crux of a line or no-release when you need it?

    I personally can deal with the occasional pre-release, plus I'm light, and I can ski K-12 with one shoe, one pole, switch, in a whiteout. So I'm at 8.
    I used to ski moguls with one ski just for the fun of it, I can handle the occasional one ski bailout. Besides, If you can't afford to lose a ski because of the terrain you are on I would suspect that not releasing is the least of your worries if you fall
    Last edited by eldereldo; 09-28-2005 at 08:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldereldo
    Besides, If you can't afford to lose a ski because of the terrain you are on I would suspect that not releasing is the least of your worries if you fall
    Riiiiight. Easy for you to say because you've trained yourself to do it. Same with Coldsmoke; he can ski on one ski with either leg. I can't do it at all. I could probably learn, but I'm not patient that way. Maybe if I had learned when I was younger... Anyway, since I can't even ski a green run on one ski that logic doesn't work for me. I can't afford to lose a ski anywhere, particularly in chutes like Suicide, Pipeline, North Chute, Lenin, etc. If I lose a ski I'm screwed cuz there's no way I can ski down. Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldereldo
    Quote Originally Posted by LIP
    Think I would rather find my buddys instead of their skis, or their dogs for that matter.
    Thought they had special ones just for skiis with a different frequency?
    They used to, it was called the maus. I coulldnt find anything about it on the ortovox website and the top google hit was a wasatch touring price list from 1998.
    Ortovox does make a doggy beacon and a separate reciever so i would expect it would run on a different frequency but i didnt look into that too much.

    btw, i usually start around din 10, but anytime a ski comes off when i think it shouldnt have it gets another half turn. my freerides have been maxed out by january the last couple years. looks like i'll be getting p-18's this season so i doubt i'll max those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endlessseason
    Riiiiight. Easy for you to say because you've trained yourself to do it. Same with Coldsmoke; he can ski on one ski with either leg. I can't do it at all. I could probably learn, but I'm not patient that way. Maybe if I had learned when I was younger... Anyway, since I can't even ski a green run on one ski that logic doesn't work for me. I can't afford to lose a ski anywhere, particularly in chutes like Suicide, Pipeline, North Chute, Lenin, etc. If I lose a ski I'm screwed cuz there's no way I can ski down. Seriously.
    Actually I said I used to do it I can still get down a hill on one ski if required, but my knees don't like it at all. What I was trying to say is that if you are in that kind of sketchy terrain I can see that you would want your ski to stay on your feet, so you would crank your bindings up. Far worse to loose a ski in a situation where there is no way to get out without it than any to risk an injury because it doesn't come off if you fall. Hence my original exclusion of those people hucking big and skiing extreme lines.

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    Salomon Race16's. Range 9-16. 3.5 from the bottom is 12.5, 3.5 from the top is 12.5. Fuck I love 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alto
    Salomon Race16's. Range 9-16. 3.5 from the bottom is 12.5, 3.5 from the top is 12.5. Fuck I love 'em.
    Dude the law of averages is going to catch up to you some day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jibij
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    Yeah, no kidding. Do we need a maggot drive to send Skip Dooley a few sandwiches?

    I picked 9-10, but I think I (or more accurately "they") usually set them around 8.5 and there was no choice for that in the poll. I'm 6'2" 180# but I'm not exactly going airborne a whole lot. This setting seems to work well for the skiing I'm doing.

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    Like aspenskichump, I set my DIN on the fly while I'm skiing.

    While I'm going off cliffs, I set it high, then I ease it back for the groomers and in the park. It's cool because most of the time people think I'm going for a grab when really I'm microadjusting my bindings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dside11-11
    Yeah - you need to be set at the middle of the spring's range.
    I hear that a lot, but always wonder if it's b.s. There has to be a pretty decent margin of safety built in and my gut feel as an engineer is you can set the binders at the top of the claimed range with no worries.

  23. #48
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    180cm 70kg

    look/rossi 140s.

    Normal settings : 6 toe, 9 heel.

    If doing stoopids, I crank up 2-3 dins.

    Have had 1 pre-release in the last 3 years.
    Didnt clean up my boots, and tought, "Aaww, that doesnt matter..."

    It did.

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    I throw 11 pennies in behind the springs them crank them to [Nigel's voice]eleven[/nv].

    Actually my nly binders are 2 pair of dynafit touring binders. I don't recall the toe having an din adjustment and the heel only goes to 10. I have my heels set at 8 or 9 and have never released from them. The toe has a cam lock for climbing that can be locked so that the toe will not release.
    Last edited by Beaver; 09-29-2005 at 12:15 PM.
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    One of the big things most people are missing is the boot sole lenght, The smaller the boot the release force is in a smaller area so the DIN needs to be higher. The same hieight and weight and a 279mm vs a 350mm make around a 3 point DIN difference.
    Also for the set up charts you use the lighter settings based on hieght and weight, os if someone is 5"2' and #160 or 6"2' and 160 they would have the same DIN, but a much longer leg (lever) to apply the forces.
    All that being said I would set bindings up to the chart, and add +1 and go from there. If I release out, then fall add 1/2 DIN untill that stops.
    I'm #155, 5"10' 293mm boot and run DIN at 9-11 range.

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