Armada ski boot is live

[MCskid]

How do you think a zip fit would fit in tar one?

[garuda]

How do you think a zip fit would fit in tar one?

Zipfits fit fine in the AR One. I skied my pair with Gara LVs with no issue and good results. Pretty easy to get in and out while leaving the liner in the boot (as opposed to world cupping) since the tongue / cabrio design gives you good room for entry.

If anyone is looking, I have a pair of 27.5 AR One 130s for sale with only a handful of days on them: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...R-One-130-27-5. Great boot but I snagged some Remedy 130s and am going to work on those.

[MCskid]

Thanks garuda! Are you able to get your zip fit into the remedy? After skiing the remedy a bunch how about a ar one vs remedy review. These are the two boots I’m interested in.

[SnowMachine]

I could not get my Zips into the AR One. Either WC style or with the liner in the boot. I ordered Intuition wraps to try in the AR One.

I never tried Zips in the Remedy. I did not feel the need with the quality of the Remedy liner. Honestly, I prefer the current Atomic liners over Zips.

Skiing the two boots: fit is what you would expect. The Remedy is more of a performance fit. It is also the better performing boot. Hard to compare a hybrid cabrio with three buckles to a modified race boot. The Remedy is stronger, heavier and more damp. The top of the Remedy is more supportive. It has a buckle and power strap vs. just a power strap. Both boots have similar forward lean. Both have shock absorbing boot boards. The AR One has tech fittings for the toe.

I like both boots a lot. If I could pick only one it would be the Remedy, but I think the AR One will be a nice option to have. I am going to ski the AR One more this week now that it is comfortable (with a Mimic Platinum liner). I am already planning on skiing the Remedy most days next year.

[oltrepiave]

How's the heel pocket compared to a hawx ultra XTD?

I did enjoy the older krypton a lot and I would like to enjoy more cabrio boots

[SnowMachine]

How's the heel pocket compared to a hawx ultra XTD? I did enjoy the older krypton a lot and I would like to enjoy more cabrio boots

Compared to the AR One? Not as tight. My daily boot right now is the Ultra RS and the fit around my heel/ankle is the best of any boot I have been in.

The Remedy has a more similar heel pocket to the Ultra, though I will probably do some more work when they are my own boots instead of loaners. I might even foam them. It will take a bit of playing around.

I got the AR One to fit really well with the Mimic liners and mid volume (mid-thick) tongue. My feet feel pretty locked in with that setup. I will ski them this afternoon or tomorrow like that. I am curious how they feel with the Intuition.

The whole point behind playing with the AR One is to have a boot with different flex and all-day comfort for when I may not be charging as hard. I have yet to ski a rec boot that charges harder than the Remedy and has out of the box comfort (I need one small punch in the Remedy).

Definitely two very different boots, but each has a place for a lot of folks.

[oltrepiave]

Thanks, where will you be punching the Remedy? Obviously very different boots and I don't even ski inbounds that much but I would like a sturdier shell (in terms of cushier flex, lateral rigidity, all around sturdiness etc.) for occasional inbounds skiing. Also not a BOA fan (for now). I'll be looking forward for folks' updates

[waxman]

Waxman, how about a review? Any weird instep issues? How’s it ski? Thanks

Sure. Full disclosure (if you don't know) I'm a Lange guy, I worked for them for 10 years, it's the number one brand in our shop and I can usually solve whatever issues people have pretty easy. Our number 2 brand used to be Full Tilt but K2 screwed that up by lumping them under the K2 banner (not a K2 dealer so they went away)
We carry Dalbello, Rossi, Kastle, Scarpa and Dynafit.
I can pretty much wear any 28x mm boot sole boot with about 4-8mm shell fit. I use the Zipfit Sidewinder, they have 300 plus days on them and I added 1/2 tube to each ankle about 150 days in. 5'9" 165lbs, ski everyday but not all day because I also own/run a store. I'm oldish, turn a lot, like powder and groomers, avoid bumps until spring.
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First, congrats to Armada for making a 24.5 in a seed boot, and not just 26.5 and 27.5. Boot companies could learn from this. I'm probably 10 days on snow with the boot now. I never used the stock liner. I "world cup" the Sidewinder in to the boot. As mentioned it was harder to do than my normal Lange, probably through familiarity but also because holding all the various shell parts open is a task (would a hinge tongue help? probably). Skiability wise I like the boot. It's probably as close to 4 buckle performance I have seen in a cabrio style boot, I've skied Lupo, Krypton and the original Flexon Comp. Call it a linear flex that stays fairly consistent though turns and such, they really didnt ramp up as I flexed deeper. I did not notice any more instep pressur than my reagular boot (good) I did notice a lot of toe box pressure though (-20*C on 2 days that it was really noticeable) would that exist in the stock liner? No idea, don't care everyone should just ski Zipfits and be done with it. I was pleasantly surprised by the boot all round, we have ordered it for stocking next season and can see it being a great boot for the non race boot high performance skier. 4.5 stars, would recommend.

[MCskid]

Thanks waxman, glad to hear you can get a zip fit in the ar one. That’s my number one priority for a boot. Been in zips for 25ish years, you said it perfectly, ‘everyone should ski zipfits and be done with it’

[SnowMachine]

Intuition wraps are magical in the AR One. I skied them yesterday with the Alpine wrap. This is now going to be my daily boot/liner combo. I knew the boot was good, but the stock liner didnt work for me. The Intuition wrap fixed all of that. I am sold...

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

Agreed on the wrap absolutely changing this boot! After searching and searching this season this boot is my huckleberry… until the LV comes out, but for now the intuition does a great job of taking up the forefoot space for me.

[JRainey]

Wraps and tongues go hand in hand. I love zipfits, but they kill the flex quality on 3 piece boots.

[mr_pretzel]

Anyone want to try and compare how stiff this thing is? Is it actually supportive like a krypton with the flex blocks or the hoji free 130?
Totally see how a wrap liner works great in this.

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

It doesn’t jump out to me as being overly stiff more so that it is really supportive. The flex isn’t super hard to engage, but will support you all the way through the throw length. I hit some pretty hard compressions this weekend and the boot did an amazing job of Lessening the blow

[mr_pretzel]

Sweet, hopefully these can work for me, going to give it a shot anyhow.

Couple more questions: anyone know the ramp?

And do these have din soles available?

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

I believe it’s the same as the prime. So 4?

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

Intuition looks good on this one!


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