Disasters: Real & Imagined

[fomofo]

[halliday]

When I worked offshore I experienced quite a few hurricanes and during my time in Chile a few earthquakes. Both will give you an uneasy feeling but tornadoes scare the shit out of me.

[Harry]

Mineshaft cave in, freaks me out.


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[neufox47]

California mega floods, Pacific Subduction Zone/ tsunami hits West Coast, New Madrid region earthquake.


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[BCMtnHound]

Yellowstone Caldera. Bring on the next ice age.

[Rideski]

The only time I ever rode the Winter Park ski train, the shitter backed up. Fortunately I didn't have to go, and was one car removed. But there were lots of pissed off people.

[Dantheman]

Charlemagne Event

https://phys.org/news/2012-11-sun-so...gne-event.html
""You'd get a little bit of damage to food crops, but that's not too serious—and it wasn't for the Holy Roman Empire either. But we have a problem they didn't, which is our technological level. When these things hit, the Earth's magnetic field undergoes an interaction, and the magnetic field lines move, and that produces a current in wires. If you have a long power line, you can get a huge current. Transformers get overloaded, and they burn out. And you can lose a lot of transformers. Imagine the lights going off all over the developed world—not to come on for who knows how long—because you have to build more transformers. And how to you do that without electricity? It's a real problem to prepare for it.""

[Norseman]

Pacific Subduction Zone/ tsunami hits West Coast

This one freaked me out when I lived in the middle of Puget Sound. Not so much the shaking or the tsunami after the mag 9 quake, but the distopian sea of huge manatee afterward.

All freeways too busted up to flee the area, gas lines burst and fires everywhere, big bridges down, no municipal water, stores unable to resupply. For months probably.

[bodywhomper]

My understanding is that there have been efforts and lots of $$ spent to mitigate a lot of those identified infrastructure problems from a big pacific subduction zone EQ.

Imagined: a large meteor strike. Or something striking the moon with enough force to cause it to lose orbit and spiral into earth.

Have you all read Parable of the Sower?

I read last week that there was a 4-5M acre wildfire in New Brunswick and Maine… something similar could be really bad.

The arcstorm (large california flood) sounds pretty bad.


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[Dantheman]

A rain-on-snow PMP event in the upper Colorado River watershed that wipes out Glen Canyon dam would not be the worst thing in the world....

[BCMtnHound]

Charlemagne Event

https://phys.org/news/2012-11-sun-so...gne-event.html
""You'd get a little bit of damage to food crops, but that's not too serious—and it wasn't for the Holy Roman Empire either. But we have a problem they didn't, which is our technological level. When these things hit, the Earth's magnetic field undergoes an interaction, and the magnetic field lines move, and that produces a current in wires. If you have a long power line, you can get a huge current. Transformers get overloaded, and they burn out. And you can lose a lot of transformers. Imagine the lights going off all over the developed world—not to come on for who knows how long—because you have to build more transformers. And how to you do that without electricity? It's a real problem to prepare for it.""

I was reading something years ago about the capacity for repair from such a solar storm event. Given the capacity at the time, it would be more than a decade before all blown transformers could be replaced. A lot of places would be in the dark for a long time.

Also read a paper for govt emergency disaster planning on the coast in the event of the big earthquake in the PNW. Vancouver Is has 5 days of fuel and 4 days of food should resources be cut off from the mainland. And that’s assuming no damage to infrastructure, which of course will not be the case. 2 million people looking for geny fuel and the last twinkie.

Our modern civilization hangs on a thread.

[fomofo]

Have you all read Parable of the Sower?

Have not, but it looks really interesting....

"The time is 2025. The place is California, where small walled communities must protect themselves from hordes of desperate scavengers and roaming bands of people addicted to a drug that activates an orgasmic desire to burn, rape, and murder."--Book jacket

Hmm.

Added to reading list - thx!

This one freaked me out when I lived in the middle of Puget Sound. Not so much the shaking or the tsunami after the mag 9 quake, but the distopian sea of huge manatee afterward.

1958 Lituya Bay earthquake and megatsunami




On the imagined front, one of my favorite popcorn movies.

Our modern civilization hangs on a thread.

Give it another 20 years?

[MultiVerse]

I was reading something years ago about the capacity for repair from such a solar storm event. Given the capacity at the time, it would be more than a decade before all blown transformers could be replaced. A lot of places would be in the dark for a long time.

Also read a paper for govt emergency disaster planning on the coast in the event of the big earthquake in the PNW. Vancouver Is has 5 days of fuel and 4 days of food should resources be cut off from the mainland. And that’s assuming no damage to infrastructure, which of course will not be the case. 2 million people looking for geny fuel and the last twinkie.

Our modern civilization hangs on a thread.

Setting aside his other flaws for a moment, J D Vance argues governments should stockpile transformers to mitigate these types of events:

"Vance said, the federal government should stockpile enough spare transformers to swap out with busted ones.

“It’s actually a scandal, I think, that the federal government has not — at one point, with all the money that we spend on defense and everything else — just said, we’re going to spend $15 billion to buy enough power transformers to have a backup for every transformer in the country,”

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jd-vance-a...l?guccounter=1

[californiagrown]

Setting aside his other flaws for a moment, J D Vance argues governments should stockpile transformers to mitigate these types of events:

"Vance said, the federal government should stockpile enough spare transformers to swap out with busted ones.

“It’s actually a scandal, I think, that the federal government has not — at one point, with all the money that we spend on defense and everything else — just said, we’re going to spend $15 billion to buy enough power transformers to have a backup for every transformer in the country,”

There are many, many places in this country where xfrmrs are backorderd 12-24 months. Godspeed on stockpiling extra and recieving the blessing from the business community.

[Buzzworthy]

Oh good lord, y’all jumping on the anxiety train I see. Ain’t nothing good coming from this thread.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Chupacabras.

[gravitylover]

I was reading something years ago about the capacity for repair from such a solar storm event. Given the capacity at the time, it would be more than a decade before all blown transformers could be replaced. A lot of places would be in the dark for a long time.

Also read a paper for govt emergency disaster planning on the coast in the event of the big earthquake in the PNW. Vancouver Is has 5 days of fuel and 4 days of food should resources be cut off from the mainland. And that’s assuming no damage to infrastructure, which of course will not be the case. 2 million people looking for geny fuel and the last twinkie.

Our modern civilization hangs on a thread.

It's a relatively thin wire actually but close enough. Re Twinkies and resources: The trick for me would be figuring out how to power the well pump long enough to get water up 396 feet and having enough 22 ammo to keep popping small mammals for protein. As long as I can figure those out it'll be fun watching everyone else freak out. I've saved enough seeds to have fresh veggies for years.

[old goat]

A solar storm that wipes out the grids may be the only chance humanity has of not being slowly cooked to death. Presumably most people would die but enough would survive to start over, but not enough to restart global warming. Although I do have a hard time believing that we'll do better the second time around.

[californiagrown]

An easily spreading, anibiotic-proof superbug that infects and kills people that we have no medical answer for.

[Dantheman]

Nuclear war is still the most likely global catastrophe by far. Annie Jacobsen's latest book is terrifying--5+ billion dead and the (un)lucky survivors live a hunter-gatherer existence.

[byates1]

This one freaked me out when I lived in the middle of Puget Sound. Not so much the shaking or the tsunami after the mag 9 quake, but the distopian sea of huge manatee afterward.

All freeways too busted up to flee the area, gas lines burst and fires everywhere, big bridges down, no municipal water, stores unable to resupply. For months probably.

And homeless people.

[2FUNKY]

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I’ve always said I never want to survive a nuclear war or the yellowstone super volcano eruption. The aftermath would be a nightmare.


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[MultiVerse]

George Washington died three days and 225 years ago tonight at Mount Vernon. Anxious about being buried alive, he told his aide, “Do not let my body be put into the vault in less than three days after I am dead. Do you understand?”

[bodywhomper]

A pretty cool version of the aftermath song:

[old goat]

Plant has had one of the more interesting second acts in rock.