Is the US going to Annex Canada? by force? or just destroy the Canadian Econ for fun

[liv2ski]

Troll troll troll Trump

Exactly and what do you do with trolls, put them on ignore.

[DougW]

Exactly and what do you do with trolls, put them on ignore.

I'm sure that is good advise to tell the residents of Greenland to sleep well at night until Feb 1 when 500 US troops invade their country. Now that would have been far fetched 2 months ago even laughable but now maybe not.

[DougW]

if usa and canada would form some sort of EU like alliance, it would do great; but trump will get in the way of himself to do something like that.

But the history of Canada is the tale of resisting invasion by the US. That is what pushed Canada together in the first place not wanting to be invaded or part of the US. Will already have an alliance with the US by treaty , NORAD and NAFTA , and the US is breaking them. How can we have further treaties with the US if the US does not honour treaties?

[ticketchecker]

He’s just blathering on to distract from Jimmy Carter’s passing and the potential release of Jack Smith’s report, Dumpf will find another shiny object before too long.


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[liv2ski]

Yup, asshole is just trolling

[liv2ski]

I'm sure that is good advise to tell the residents of Greenland to sleep well at night until Feb 1 when 500 US troops invade their country. Now that would have been far fetched 2 months ago even laughable but now maybe not.

Can you imagine the uproar in the EU and NATO? Does Donnie really want to be Putin? I would like to think he would quickly get his dick caught in Congresses zipper.

[XXX-er]

America already has an airbase Greenland with 600 US and Danish personel ( imagine the jokes up there ? ) and so all he can do with his bluster is fuck that relationship up

I've heard only one Canadian an anti vax religious whacko convoy ( all their churches are based down there ) loving conservative think being part of USA would be good

[MultiVerse]

Trump's Canada trolling is annoying because it makes annexing Greenland seem like a joke, making it less likely to happen. America should annex Greenland if that's what the people of Greenland want!

If Trump can peacefully convince the inhabitants of Greenland that American sovereignty of Greenland is positive, without causing a conflict, that would be a great accomplishment for any modern president.

[ötzi]

They're Danish citizens in a Danish territoty. If the residents of the US Virgin Islands voted to join Britain, should we just let them go?

[old goat]

So is Greenland gonna end up in bankruptcy like his property acquisitions usually do?

Greenland is right up Trump's alley, given that it was the original real estate swindle in Viking times (GREENland? Really?)

As far as Canada, maybe Trump would be happy if we just renamed the geese.

Now I know why my son in the Air Force has been doing cold weather training and has been issued cold weather gear. (Arcteryx, among other stuff, not that shit they gave the GIs in Korea.) Hope it's Canada, not Greenland, cuz then he can take his skis.

[XXX-er]

Trump's Canada trolling is annoying because it makes annexing Greenland seem like a joke, making it less likely to happen. America should annex Greenland if that's what the people of Greenland want!

If Trump can peacefully convince the inhabitants of Greenland that American sovereignty of Greenland is positive, without causing a conflict, that would be a great accomplishment for any modern president.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland

"" Greenlanders voted for the Self-Government Act, which transferred more power from the Danish government to the local Naalakkersuisut (Greenlandic government).[20] Under this structure, Greenland gradually assumed responsibility for a number of governmental services and areas of competence. The Danish government retains control of citizenship, monetary policy, and foreign affairs, including defence. ""

Which pretty much makes Greenlanders First Nations whom would say FU ^^ to USA so that sounds "as fucking stupid as something trump would say "

add to that Denmark is part of Nato which means all Nato countries have to dogpile on any country who would threaten Greenland all make what you said " as stupid as if trump said it "

[MultiVerse]

They're Danish citizens in a Danish territoty. If the residents of the US Virgin Islands voted to join Britain, should we just let them go?

It is by no means a binary situation. It would have to be a three way process. Any agreement would need to go through both Danish and Greenlandic governments. The key element is the fact America can unlock Greenland’s full potential in a way Denmark is incapable of doing. Denmark’s consent would hinge on benefiting from recognizing that reality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland

"" Greenlanders voted for the Self-Government Act, which transferred more power from the Danish government to the local Naalakkersuisut (Greenlandic government).[20] Under this structure, Greenland gradually assumed responsibility for a number of governmental services and areas of competence. The Danish government retains control of citizenship, monetary policy, and foreign affairs, including defence. ""

Which pretty much makes Greenlanders FN whom would say FU ^^ to USA so that sounds "as fucking stupid as something trump would say "

add to that Denmark is part of Nato which all make what you said " as stupid as if trump said it "

Right, the United States is critical to the security of Europe via funding and many other agreements. So NATO is a reason why Denmark would be inclined to go along with it, not a reason to go against it.

The same goes for Greenlanders. America can afford an arctic strategy capable of countering Russia & China. United States governance and citizenship is much more benevolent in comparison to what those jackals have to offer.

21st century international arctic cooperation is also a strategic reason for Canada to support this too

[ötzi]

"Okay, Greenlandians, the first thing we're gonna do, we're gonna take away your health care. And of course you'll lose your EU citizenship. Trust me, it'll be great."

[XXX-er]

the USA WAS critical

CNN —

As US allies reel from Donald Trump’s weekend comments encouraging Russia to attack European allies if they don’t meet NATO budget contribution goals, multiple former Trump advisers warn in my upcoming book that the former president will seek to formally withdraw the US from the NATO alliance if he wins a second term.

In “The Return of Great Powers”, which will be published March 12, a former senior US official, who served in both the Trump and Biden administrations at a high level, told me that if Trump defeats President Joe Biden in November “the US will be out of NATO.”

“NATO would be in real jeopardy,” John Bolton, Trump’s former national security adviser, agreed. “I think he would try to get out.”

Multiple Trump advisors ( none of whom TRump listened to OR was even capable of listening to ) are telling us Trump will probbaly try to get out of NATO ?


Splain to us why would anyone who deosnt need to would want to be part of America when a lot of Americans don't want to ?

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/are-mo...rump-1.6913801

" an exponential increase " in americans inquiring about moving narth


fortunately its all just Trump bluster so I further I doubt its possible to deport 10 million most valuable illegals who do all the work, or slap a 10% tarrif on Canadain goods and not get slapped back in which case republican congressmen start complaining to the white house cuz all the people who elected them are complaining

[JimmyCarter]

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And in exchange you’ll get a share of all the wealth we extract from your land…. Ahahahhaha just kidding.

[Gcooker]

The Nene bird on the big island is pretty cool. They don't fly anymore and we're almost extinct for a stretch... pretty much walk around eating a fucking. Turns out their lineage is the Canadian Goose, the flying shit rats of our fine land. The more you know!

I for one welcome our orange dictator to the south, I too want to live on the big island getting fat and fucking a lot.. this seems like an easy ticket.

[MultiVerse]

"Okay, Greenlandians, the first thing we're gonna do, we're gonna take away your health care. And of course you'll lose your EU citizenship. Trust me, it'll be great."

American Indians and Alaska Natives are already entitled to free federally funded health care so extending those benefits to Greenlanders wouldn't be a stretch. And I agree American citizenship is great. Much better than European citizenship

And in exchange you’ll get a share of all the wealth we extract from your land…. Ahahahhaha just kidding.

Alaska Natives share in oil and gas wealth through the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act (ANCSA) and the Permanent Fund Dividend (PFD)

Obviously, unlike Alaskan natives, this would all be contingent on Greenlanders free choice but if that's what they choose then the positive benefits are enormous

[XXX-er]

https://www.reuters.com/business/ene...re-2021-07-16/

apparently they don't want to ^^

trump could have found this all out with google but all he knows how to do it is tweet

[JimmyCarter]

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apparently they don't want to

Not oil, we’d strip mine the island for rare earth minerals (and melt the ice sheet for fresh water!)

[DougW]

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Right, the United States is critical to the security of Europe via funding and many other agreements. So NATO is a reason why Denmark would be inclined to go along with it, not a reason to go against it.

The same goes for Greenlanders. America can afford an arctic strategy capable of countering Russia & China. United States governance and citizenship is much more benevolent in comparison to what those jackals have to offer.

This doesn't make sense. As a part of NATO Greenland as part of Denmark or just loosely in a commonwealth is still protected. The US already has a base. So as long as they want a US presence they can get as much US presence as the US wants to put on the ground. If part of the US they don't have the right to say no you are ruining the land or whatever. Iceland is part of NATO and has no defense spending it just provides land but it has the right to leave NATO and make the Americans leave if America is a giant asshole. Being part of the US means you're part of that giant asshole so you never have the right to make that giant asshole leave.

Right now Canada's only real threat to its sovereignty comes from the US. Which begs the question does Canada need to be in a NATO that doesn't have the US in it? Does Canada need nukes? Can we buy weapons from the US ? is that a good idea seeing how the US now will threaten allies.

[JimmyCarter]

American Indians and Alaska Natives are already entitled to free federally funded health care so extending those benefits to Greenlanders wouldn't be a stretch. And I agree American citizenship is great. Much better than European citizenship



Alaska Natives share in oil and gas wealth through the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act (ANCSA) and the Permanent Fund Dividend (PFD)

Obviously, unlike Alaskan natives, this would all be contingent on Greenlanders free choice but if that's what they choose then the positive benefits are enormous

Because bringing people in and giving them handouts is gonna sit real well with his base

[MultiVerse]

Trump will need to rise above his base for this to happen. Operation Warp Speed was Trump's greatest accomplishment during his first term. MAGA doesn't like it but he still did it and he deserves credit for it. Greenland could be Trump's great second term accomplishment

[XXX-er]

This doesn't make sense. As a part of NATO Greenland as part of Denmark or just loosely in a commonwealth is still protected. The US already has a base. So as long as they want a US presence they can get as much US presence as the US wants to put on the ground. If part of the US they don't have the right to say no you are ruining the land or whatever. Iceland is part of NATO and has no defense spending it just provides land but it has the right to leave NATO and make the Americans leave if America is a giant asshole. Being part of the US means you're part of that giant asshole so you never have the right to make that giant asshole leave.

Right now Canada's only real threat to its sovereignty comes from the US. Which begs the question does Canada need to be in a NATO that doesn't have the US in it? Does Canada need nukes? Can we buy weapons from the US ? is that a good idea seeing how the US now will threaten allies.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north...orad-1.6446875

You don't wna splode those nukes in america so you need the DEW-line but that is so 65 yrs ago, now they are all closed and/ or rusting

[JimmyCarter]

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Maybe Trump doesn’t have to worry about reelection (one way or another) but the other republicans do.

[MultiVerse]

Yeah, agreed. It's a big ask. Not to mention the narrowest House majority along with probable midterm reversals

Right now Canada's only real threat to its sovereignty comes from the US. Which begs the question does Canada need to be in a NATO that doesn't have the US in it? Does Canada need nukes? Can we buy weapons from the US ? is that a good idea seeing how the US now will threaten allies.

This is hopelessly naive in light of what Russia is doing in Ukraine, China is threatening in Taiwan and both are doing in the Baltic, Arctic, Taiwan Strait & Red Sea