New shock day

[Gunder]

Just got the new Vorsprung. Pretty damn impressive on how good it is out of the box. It’s way more supple than the push I was running before. It’s also pretty cool that you can change the base valving without having to open it up to change a shim stack. You can even revalve it in the trail.

It’s also lighter than a push too

Best way to describe it is that it feels like Moto suspension floats over everything and the hydraulic bottomout just sucks it all up.

[North]

I wanna know how the rapid revalve system works. That sounds nice.

[Gunder]

I wanna know how the rapid revalve system works. That sounds nice.

I haven’t opened it up yet…. But have some ideas. It’s slick tho. Just loosen the adjuster collar then turn the screw on back and then tighten the adjuster collar back down. It’s got a massive range of adjustment. The running software is slick. Just plug in bike type, rider and terrain info and it then gives you a 3d graph of the tune envelope with the ideal settings. Similar to push but anyone with access to the software can do it.

[sb]

Nice

[grinch]

I'm drooooolling

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[Roxtar]

Hoping for an air version

[rideit]

What’s your take on sprindex?

[Gunder]

I'm drooooolling

HAHA it's F'n amazing. It's been the biggest upgrade I've done to my bike thats resulted in major increase in how fast I ride trails since I went to a 29er and thats saying something. Especially when I have ran Push shocks on all of my bikes for the last 10 years or so. Testing it on my normal go to trails on Galbraith, I ahvr shattered my old PR's and am now I the top 9% and thats saying something giving how many people Starva Galby and the caliber of riders here.

Hoping for an air version

Thats a horrible idea. The Best air shocks are just trying to approximate coil.... and if you are riding a bike that doesn't play nice with coil, then it's time to find a better bike.

What’s your take on sprindex?

It's very interesting. I'm curious to see how it holds up. I really like being able to tune the coil spring rate into an exact setting, instead of being stuck between spring rates. It's also interesting to be able to adjust the coil rate to the trail as you can do it on the bike with no tools. Fast slowly trails I can increase it closer to 20% sag. More tech chunky aggressive trails I can tune it back to 30 / 35%

The best custom tuned shocks ala Push, use a bunch of Dyno data combined with telemetry from on bike data to come up with ideal tunes for each bike / rider weight / ability terrain. However at the end of the day it's still an approximation by adjusting the shim stacks. So you typically have a shim stack configurations for compression and for rebound of the following EL, EL+, L, M, M+, F, F+. This is typically done by adding thicker and wider shims to the stack to create more resistance to oil flow. Not exactly rocket science. What is interesting with the Telum, is you can adjust the base valve by how many turns you put on the adjuster worm screw.....So you can end up with a tune between what a typical shim stack tune does. IT's even cooler as you can do it trail side much like how you would adjust your typical compression and rebound settings. Once the base tune is close to ideal, you then fine tune it by adjusting your rebound and High / Low speed compression. Having this much adjustability combined with being able to adjust the spring rate allows you to dial in the suspension to a far better resolution than you could even with a custom tuned Push, etc.

Since most people cant adjust the base tune of their shock and even with a custom tune they are still stuck with what ever that is, they then set the sag and then are stuck with whatever external adjustments the shock has. With this system, I can fine tune my sag to exactly where I want it (I like the spring set low enough where the damper is doing the work) and then adjust the base tune to that spring rate then fine tune it with the normal adjustments. This has resulted in me going to a much lighter spring rate, so the bike is extremely supple, at first it feels almost too soft, but then the damper base tune adjustment does its magic, and it doesn't bottom out or wallow. It just absorbs everything I point it at, yet still allows me to load it up and pop better than I could with the Push. Best way to describe it is that it feels more like Moto suspension than typical mountain bike.

I have the ability and knowledge to custom tune most shocks, but at the end of the day that involves opening them up, changing the shim stacks, putting it back together bleeding it, then test riding it. To make any adjustments you have to repeat that process each time, so it's a shit ton of work, and at the end of the day you are only getting close with guess work. I can now instantly make adjustments and ride it without having to open a shock up, let alone vacume bleed it. Thats amazing. It's a big departure from every other shock on the market.

[g_man80]

Very nice! What bike do you have it on?

I would welcome that easy-to-adjust valving in the moto world. As you mentioned, it gets tiring have to make consecutive changes to the shim stacks.

[Gunder]

Very nice! What bike do you have it on?

I would welcome that easy-to-adjust valving in the moto world. As you mentioned, it gets tiring have to make consecutive changes to the shim stacks.

I have it set up on my Repeater. Going to put another one on my offering once I sell a few push shocks.

[GravityDT]

Dang. Was getting close to pulling trigger on an Ohlins. Curious if this’ll fit a ‘23 Wild….

[carlh]

Gunder any setup tips for shocks in general? I am still working on fully dialing in my kitsuma coil.

[McShortyShorts]

I'm a big fan of keeping everything wide open and then incrementally decreasing rebound/increasing compression damping until it starts to feel normal. I find that easier than starting at recommended settings and then trying to bracket over several runs

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