Coercive Control

[leroy jenkins]

“Isolating them from family or friends”

What’s the response to that?
How is that a crime. Assuming you’re not physically restraining them?

I’m shocked but not surprised by your responses.
The crimes are already crimes. This is next level bullshit. It’s all justice warrior until you find yourself in court for a seven year sentence for telling your ex wife she can’t visit your mother.

Magnificent Unicorn has stated he would like see the entre bill of rightsdone away with. He is just pro authority, and pro more laws, and more people arrested.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

I’m pro people, apparently you and Core Shot have no problem with vulnerable people being abused and taken advantage of. We now have more confirmation of what kind of person you are.

Now you’re stalking me, exercising your coercive control? Failing miserably


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[old goat]

So ….

If you tell your housemate to eat a bag of dicks? You might go to jail!
Yayyyy. Progressive progress.
Enjoy.

depends whose dick is in the bag.

[The AD]

Everyone is piling on about dudes saying mean things to girls and need to do prison time.

Actually no one is. You just made that up.

[bennymac]

Mentally ill people are drawn to phrases with alliteration - especially with hard consonants at the start.

Even more so if there is an element of paranoia or persecution associated.

Not surprised Core Shot is worked up about coercive control.

Worked up to the point he also threw out “progressive progress” as another example.

[thedude2340]

Mentally ill people are drawn to phrases with alliteration - especially with hard consonants at the start.

Even more so if there is an element of paranoia or persecution associated.

Not surprised Core Shot is worked up about coercive control.

Worked up to the point he also threw out “progressive progress” as another example.

This is an astonishing aside. Im basically befuddled. It’s like troll treasure. I must rationally reassess.

[MultiVerse]

A horrifying story of coercive control against a nine year old over the course of her lifetime by one of Canada's most iconic writers and her spouse.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/cont...9a808ea37.html

If nothing else, awareness of coercive control shines a light on behavior that may seem innocent from the outside if looked at in isolation but in fact causes serious long term alarm and distress for the victim

[MagnificentUnicorn]

It’s a little funny that the story linked by CS is about a law passed in NSW Australia. Most of those things listed as “coercive control” are already illegal in a lot(the majority?) of US jurisdictions.



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[neufox47]

Without fail he fails.

Has anyone met him in real life?

Rog said he met him on Mt Washington and that he was a beater of a skier.

[El Chupacabra]

If Core Shot thinks it's so easy to leave how come he's still crawling around the house in a dog collar and leash licking the floors clean. Come on CS--you don't have to put up with it.

Go on Core Shot, you don't have to submit to old goat's domination anynore.

[Core Shot]

Go on Core Shot, you don't have to submit to old goat's domination anynore.

Old Goat makes me submit. I don’t like it. But he coresively controls me.

The comments about not being able to leave an abusive relationship. You can’t leave verbal or emotional or financial abusive relationship
But somehow you get a prosecutor to initiate criminal charges .

There are non profits shelters and counseling to get you out.
Either way the abused person has to make a decision.
Do the decision. Leave. Why do you need to put your partner in prison for bad words or coersion?

[Core Shot]

A horrifying story of coercive control against a nine year old over the course of her lifetime by one of Canada's most iconic writers and her spouse.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/cont...9a808ea37.html

If nothing else, awareness of coercive control shines a light on behavior that may seem innocent from the outside if looked at in isolation but in fact causes serious long term alarm and distress for the victim

Paywalled.
Only read the intro.

But that was sexual abuse of a nine year old girl.
wtf
How can you call that coercive control? That’s rape. Of a child.
That’s criminal
And deplorable.
Capital punishment. Kill that guy. wtf.

[Meadow Skipper]

“Just leave the fucked up relationship.”

What a fucking dolt, with apparently no imagination or understanding of what goes on in this world.

Some of you guys seem to be just now figuring that out.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Some of you guys seem to be just now figuring that out.

I’m new here.

[dunfree]

It’s a little funny that the story linked by CS is about a law passed in NSW Australia. Most of those things listed as “coercive control” are already illegal in a lot(the majority?) of US jurisdictions.



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australia can be a bit more vigorous and proactive about enforcing their existing laws.

[XXX-er]

[MultiVerse]

Paywalled.
Only read the intro.

But that was sexual abuse of a nine year old girl.
wtf
How can you call that coercive control? That’s rape. Of a child.
That’s criminal
And deplorable.
Capital punishment. Kill that guy. wtf.

Right, and reading more of the story details how her family colluded, isolating her from family and friends, to keep her quiet until decades later. There's the crime. Then there's the coercive control adding injury on top of injury.

[Core Shot]

Right, and reading more of the story details how her family colluded, isolating her from family and friends, to keep her quiet until decades later. There's the crime. Then there's the coercive control adding injury on top of injury.

That’s fucked up.
But there’s a crime there. Aiding and abetting child rape. Tampering with evidence. Interfering with a criminal investigation. Accessory to a crime. Etc.

My point which most don’t understand is that making it a crime to use mean words is insane. As is making it a crime to not open the door to your house for a relative to come inside. It’s your house.

[m2711c]

then you should move to NSW Australia to fight the adoption of this horrible law... be a man of action!

[Harry]

As is making it a crime to not open the door to your house for a relative to come inside. It’s your house.

This sounds like kidnapping. Not sure why Core Shot thinks that should be legal. This thread is dumb. Must be mid-July on TRG.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

That’s fucked up.
But there’s a crime there. Aiding and abetting child rape. Tampering with evidence. Interfering with a criminal investigation. Accessory to a crime. Etc.

My point which most don’t understand is that making it a crime to use mean words is insane. As is making it a crime to not open the door to your house for a relative to come inside. It’s your house.

Like most things that are nuanced, you miss the point. Saying something mean won’t be a crime by itself, saying something mean with intent to control and intimidate would be, this would likely have to be an ongoing pattern of behavior. Does that make sense to you? There are already laws on the books for this in most jurisdictions in the US.

What’s happened here is that you’ve answered the dog whistle of click bait journalism, it works very well on people like you.


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[::: :::]

which most don’t understand

No one disagrees with free speech and personal property rights being valuable personal rights.

But there is a line where someone uses those as cover for domestic/psychological abuse, and you seem to have taken the position that criminalizing such behavior is an attack on normal good behavior, which it isn’t.

So, ^^^ that is what most don’t understand.

It looks like you see yourself squarely in the crosshairs of this sort of behavior and think it’s innocent personal freedom being unfairly squashed. Please feel free to disabuse us of this understanding of what you are saying in this thread.

[Core Shot]

This sounds like kidnapping. Not sure why Core Shot thinks that should be legal. This thread is dumb. Must be mid-July on TRG.

Ok. You’re right. Let’s charge President Biden with coercive control. Or kidnapping for not letting someone into your house? That was an insanely stupid comment.
We need to charge Hunter as well. Not acknowledging your baby momma is tragic.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainm...ea/ar-BB1pUAw8

She just wants to see her grandpa