Wildfire ‘24

[Foggy_Goggles]

Murdered out Suburban, but yes he's got one of those yellow shirts.

Grand County experienced the East Troublesome Fire. The community gets a bit edgy when the danger is elevated.

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[skaredshtles]

Is there an all-out fire ban in Colorado yet? Because if not, there needs to be ASAP.

Doesn't look like there currently is: https://dfpc.colorado.gov/firerestriction

A lot of the Front Range localities appear to have some sort of ban in place.

[zion zig zag]

Murdered out Suburban, but yes he's got one of those yellow shirts.

Grand County experienced the East Troublesome Fire. The community gets a bit edgy when the danger is elevated.

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Copy. I'm going to get a duty vest and then go speak to city council on the dangers of gang violence.

[Foggy_Goggles]

To be clear, I'm not a big fan of our Sheriff. But staying in his lane and letting the wildfire professionals do there thing does seem to be one of his strengths.

De-escalation, marksmanship, understanding the 2a rights of the citizens, serving and protecting...not so much.

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[old goat]

The 380000 acre park fire in Norcal seems to have slowed down considerably, I'm guessing because it has run into the 900,000+ acre Dixie Fire (2021) burn.

[Kevo]

Getting pretty tired of smoke. We've got a long haul ahead of us with smoke this year.

[The SnowShow]

Getting pretty tired of smoke. We've got a long haul ahead of us with smoke this year.

Pretty depressing it’s only July 31st. I’m really starting to hate mid to late summer/early fall.

[bodywhomper]

Tahoe is stil smoke free.

Argh!!!

There are predisaster solutions to this that are cheaper and healthier for all than high severity fires and suppression efforts.

[Danno]

How everyone here is doing ok. All these fires are brutal to hear about.

I’m out of town (Denver) but what is the view west like? I assume you can see all three fires lined up south to north? That must be eerie.

driving west from Erie this morning, I couldn't see the Indian peaks at all, and could barely see any foothills.

[skaredshtles]

It appears that the fire out by Deer Creek may be presently in the process of blowing the fuck up.

[Meadow Skipper]

Facebook and instagram posts from fire folk have started ranting about a huge number of UTF (unable to fill) requests for experienced fireline supervisors and staff like dispatchers. This might hurt.

Shitty pay and unresolved burnout conditions will do that I guess.

[skaredshtles]

Facebook and instagram posts from fire folk have started ranting about a huge number of UTF (unable to fill) requests for experienced fireline supervisors and staff like dispatchers. This might hurt.

Shitty pay and unresolved burnout conditions will do that I guess.

[skiballs]

It appears that the fire out by Deer Creek may be presently in the process of blowing the fuck up.

Looks that way from here in Ken Caryl.
Couple tanker planes just hit it, might have knocked it down a bit.


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[old goat]

We've been lucky so far this year and were lucky last after 2 really bad years, but I'll take the smoke over a 4 day public safety power outage. Not that we have a choice.
At least they stopped burning off the rice fields in the Sacramento Valley--funny how the Tule "fog" went away when they stopped burning. Bad enough dealing with smoke in the summer without having to deal with it in the winter as well.

[John_B]

Facebook and instagram posts from fire folk have started ranting about a huge number of UTF (unable to fill) requests for experienced fireline supervisors and staff like dispatchers. This might hurt.

Shitty pay and unresolved burnout conditions will do that I guess.

The PNW has been sitting at PL 5 for what seems like a month. I'd imagine folks are having a hard time wrestling resources away now?

[skaredshtles]

JHFC. Now there's a new fire up by The Fort in Morrison and another at Gross Res in Boulder County.

[Meadow Skipper]

The PNW has been sitting at PL 5 for what seems like a month. I'd imagine folks are having a hard time wrestling resources away now?

The National Preparedness Level is currently 5 (out of 5), so everyone’s gonna have a hard time getting resources. Nat’l PL 5 usually means going to the military to see what they can offer. Military retardant C-130s are already on line. The military can sometimes provide crews, but experienced and well-trained civilian firefighters are needed to train and oversee them…which could/probably be scarce.

Looks like Colorado’s next in line for ass-kicking.

Daily Incident Management Situation Report
https://www.nifc.gov/nicc-files/sitreprt.pdf

[Meadow Skipper]

At least they stopped burning off the rice fields in the Sacramento Valley--funny how the Tule "fog" went away when they stopped burning.

Memories of the 60s & 70s for me in the Sacto Valley there.

[bodywhomper]

Bad enough dealing with smoke in the summer without having to deal with it in the winter as well.

The scientists claim that 4-11 M acres burned in California every year before Spaniards came and banned indigenous peoples for burning.

The state has a current goal of 1M ac per year.

[mcski]

At least they stopped burning off the rice fields in the Sacramento Valley--funny how the Tule "fog" went away when they stopped burning. Bad enough dealing with smoke in the summer without having to deal with it in the winter as well.

Pretty sure that is due to climate change not burning. There was a ton of tule fog in bako and near the grapevine but no rice fields or burning goin on

[old goat]

Maybe true in socal, but it is well recognized that the rice burning seriously exacerbated the natural fogs. Like the London fogs of the 19th C and beyond that killed people (10,000--12,000 in 1952.

[mcski]

They burned rice in London?

[fomofo]

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Tule fog isn’t as common anymore because of less ag pollution. It’s particulate matter that causes the fog. So burning rice stubble or any crop stubble, dust from disking or plowing fields, etc.
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley....9/2018JD029419


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[NBABUCKS1]

Did the whole west burn every summer in the past like at any point in the 20th century or is this a new thing?

Although last year was a really good year for very little wildfire (at least in Utah/Wyoming where I'm at)