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    -- Freetour 2.0 - the 2024 CAST system thread - -

    Seems like a significant enough change in the system that it's time to start a new thread. You can find 30 + pages of chatter about the old system, along with a couple of pages of speculation and observations about the the latest iteration over in the 2017 CAST touring system thread.

    I am hoping that the new toe design will solve some of the problems I have had over the years - any need an extra 1.0 second ski kit?

    Highlights that I have seen so far:
    - no more posts, should make mounting less fussy
    - new touring toe, might be less prone to failing
    - dedicated touring AFD (included, not a $15 option)
    - said to be a tweaked brake retainer
    - I think the toe puck will be conducive to use with inserts = flat skis again!
    - 2nd ski kit is $5 cheaper than the 1.0 version


    Looks like the launch came with some slick new website content as well: a Mounting tutorial, and a guide to the AFD options (both included). The "Field Guide" video shows the transition process between skiing and touring.

    Eagerly awaiting my tracking number email.


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    I'm excited to try out 2.0, 1.0 worked very well for me but I'm a bit concerned about the long term support/parts availability for 1.0.

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    Multiple threads just get confused.

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    -- Freetour 2.0 - the 2024 CAST system thread - -

    So has anyone actually ordered a new kit? Interested to hear some real world reviews, especially from those moving from 1.0 to 2.0.


    Someone had mentioned a weight savings in the alpine toe pieces of around a half pound each? If that’s true that is huge.


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    Quote Originally Posted by east or bust View Post
    So has anyone actually ordered a new kit? Interested to hear some real world reviews, especially from those moving from 1.0 to 2.0.


    Someone had mentioned a weight savings in the alpine toe pieces of around a half pound each? If that’s true that is huge.


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    How the fuck is that even possible? That's more than 200g per piece, for those of us with a metric persuasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arild View Post
    How the fuck is that even possible? That's more than 200g per piece, for those of us with a metric persuasion.

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    No clue. Material change in the toe base plate? Is the pivot itself newly designed and potentially lighter?

    I found the instagram post directly from Lars stating a 242g weight savings in the toes. Unclear if that’s each, or combined.

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    Gotta be combined. P18 Toes with the 1.0 system were ~515g, cutting that in half seems impossible.

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    Maybe if the the standard Pivot towers are steel vs. machined aluminum? Steel has a density of ~8g/cc, 3x Aluminum at 2.7g/cc.

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    They said on IG weight loss is 242 grams for ski mode and 92 grams for touring mode. They don’t specify if that’s per pair or binding. I originally read that as per binding as that’s how they always list their weights, but it could be for the pair.

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    One thing I've always wondered is: why they don't slide the heelpieces off for up as well. Just a climbing bale in front.of the heelpiece, and it just comes off for the up.

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    because...

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    It looks overall smaller with the new plate

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    Per pair

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    Don't know how many units were on sale but the v2 upgrade kit is sold out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byates1 View Post
    One thing I've always wondered is: why they don't slide the heelpieces off for up as well. Just a climbing bale in front.of the heelpiece, and it just comes off for the up.
    They would need to redesign and manufacture the whole baseplate assembly, which is such a clusterfuck to even think about.

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    FYI got dinged for import fees with UPS shipping to canada...

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    a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort

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    Sooo refined. Want!!!

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    I installed my 2.0 upgrade kit last night. It is awesome, the new tech toe and pedestal are very light and very easy to change on the ski. Great, refined design!

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    Anyone know if the delta is still flat with the new system?

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    Anyone hear when the next batch will be for sale?

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    Is there a preferred way to line up the brake lock/riser unit holes with an already mounted heel piece?

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    Hi, I am having trouble getting the toes far down enough on the towers. These are the yellow/orange pivot 18 forzas. Any ideas?

    The width of the tower prevents me from dropping down any lower. I must be doing something wrong... what am I missing?

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    how long was shipping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tupp_ View Post
    Hi, I am having trouble getting the toes far down enough on the towers. These are the yellow/orange pivot 18 forzas. Any ideas?

    The width of the tower prevents me from dropping down any lower. I must be doing something wrong... what am I missing?

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    I'd email CAST on this one. Doubtful these have been around long enough to get an answer here.

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