50 years to the day

[MultiVerse]

One the one hand, folks are saying that hamas is a multi-state-sponsored military organization with decently high levels of sophistication, high levels of funding and material support, extremely high levels of violence and fanaticism, and actively steals and hordes most/all humanitarian aid that makes it into gaza through actual violence against palestinian civilians. On the other hand, folks are saying "At any given moment, Palestinians can choose to end their 100-year war against Israeli freedom, sovereignty, and equality. That alone would immediately bring the conflict to an end". Lets game theory this out: Palestinian civilians rise up and gather a few thousand strong to march through the streets demanding and end to hamas and the war. Do you think hamas just stands down, or do you think that they will either meet the protest with force, or go after the members of the protest later that night? Now, if israel sees a group of hamas meeting that protest with force, you dont think israel just bombs the everloving shit out of that protest to get that group of hamas, and then claims nearly all dead were hamas, or were acceptable casualties? Your average Ahmed in gaza is between a rock and hardplace. In a frying pan with fire all around. fucked if they do, fucked if they dont with no ability to change their situation as hamas and israel seem to be fairly happy with the status quo.

This post is nonsense from top to bottom. Hamas *was* "a multi-state-sponsored military organization with decently high levels of sophistication, high levels of funding and material support, extremely high levels of violence and fanaticism" that has since been degraded by the IDF. As a result Palestinians are becoming emboldened enough to resist Hamas more-and-more. Now, Gazan protests against Hamas are occurring regularly. Hamas will either be overthrown by 1) Israel 2) Palestinians 3) A multinational force, or some combination. Or, Hamas can surrender and disarm in the interim.

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Hamas be like, "Fuck you we'll just build more server farms and flood the smooth-brain world with our twisted thoughts. You can bid all day but we can't be bought off!"

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Zoomerbots belike, "Fuck yeah those some tight wisdum werds we never herd! Love Hamas!! #Watermelon"

[summit]

RT wants us to tell him what Israel's plan is... when he isn't accusing them of wanting to murder millions of people and other made up shit from Tik Tok..

RT won't tell us what he thinks is a viable solution for Israel... or the Palestineans... other than waving his hands and saying "won't someone just stop the killing? Can't we all just get along?"

[J. Barron DeJong]

Yeah man, killing tens of thousands of innnocent people, committing what genocide scholars - including those in Israel - are calling a genocide, explicitly saying you are doing ethnic cleansing, is in fact bad.

To do that with no realistic end game (that is not an international crime - see the ethnic cleansing) is in fact a bad thing.

[RTsucks]

I think that release of hostages and hamas out of power are unobojectionable goals but not end states. It seems that Israel is being marginalized by their own brutish actions. There was a time when it was said that the goal of terrorism was to bring you down to their level and thereby isolate you. I'm just curious whether this might end up being a pyrrhic victory for them. Supposing hamas et al don't change names and metastisize. Meanwhile there's talk of nuclear deals with iran and saudi arabia as well as huge ai datacenters. Of course with 75% being hamas and the goal of vacating gaza...well, I don't see how this ends as simply as you imply mv. You have faith in Israel, fine. It seems to be waning the world over.

In fascinating related news, digital warlord highangle has bluescreened his own brain.

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Well they wore out "Fascist", might as well devolve "genocide" to mean whatever you might want at the moment too.


ProTip: When confronted by a guy who says he's devoted a significant study into the word "genocide"...ask him who funded him.

[RTsucks]

Will do. I'm frequently confronted by such guys. Hold your breathe and I shall report back momentarily.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Netanyahu saying the end goal is ethnic cleansing again today:

Responding to those who are pushing for an end to war in Gaza, Netanyahu says he “is ready to end the war, under clear conditions that will ensure the safety of Israel – all the hostages come home, Hamas lays down its arms, steps down from power, its leadership is exiled from the Strip… Gaza is totally disarmed, and we carry out the Trump plan. A plan that is so correct and so revolutionary.”
This represents the first time the US president’s plan for moving Gaza civilians out of the Strip has been presented as an Israeli demand for ending the war.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...or-ending-war/

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I think that release of hostages and hamas out of power are unobojectionable goals but not end states. It seems that Israel is being marginalized by their own brutish actions.

That's certainly your goal anyway... Has been from before 10/7.

Which is why you will greedily rush to blame Israel for some erroneous report of a tactical commander's decision, because in your world Hamas is not Palestine and all Palestinians are therefore innocent of 10/7 and Israel is systematically slaughtering these poor people sheltering in their datacenters and ordinance facilities based simply on their unique genotype, just to watch them die.

No wonder you're so twisted and bitter about Gaza. You snort Comet bro. Do another line for us.

There was a time when it was said that the goal of terrorism was to bring you down to their level and thereby isolate you. I'm just curious whether this might end up being a pyrrhic victory for them. Supposing hamas et al don't change names and metastisize. Meanwhile there's talk of nuclear deals with iran and saudi arabia as well as huge ai datacenters. Of course with 75% being hamas and the goal of vacating gaza...well, I don't see how this ends as simply as you imply mv. You have faith in Israel, fine. It seems to be waning the world over. In fascinating related news, digital warlord highangle has bluescreened his own brain.

OK, how about Israel stops shooting when an unarmed Jew can walk down the street in AllahLand without getting gunned down? Is that unfair? Is that too much to ask?

[RTsucks]

Ask a loved one to hold that power button for like five seconds, put you next to the box fan for a while and try again.

[highangle]

Yep, way too fucking much to ask.

[MultiVerse]

Jong keeps casually throwing the word genocide around citing Jihadists cosplaying on campuses as proof. But the fact is the ICJs (International Court of Justice) case fell apart. It fell apart for a number of reasons. The case was baseless. The case was funded by Iran via South Africa. And because the lead prosecutor brought the case so that he could sexually assault female employees using the case to enable and then cover up his crimes. The reality is anti-Israeli activists have been accusing Israel of genocide starting just days into the war based on fake quotes and lies.

ICJ: We did NOT find a plausible case of genocide

ICC: Investigated for sexually assaulting Muslim women

Karim Khan, the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC), faces harassment accusations from a female colleague. He is accused of forcing himself on a female assistant in a New York hotel room in December 2023 and afterwards telling her to keep quiet or else his case against Israel wouldn't proceed. It got worse. ICC prosecutor Karim Khan later pressured the female employee to drop her charges after he subsequently repeatedly sexually assaulted her by telling her that any scandal would hurt his campaign to indict Israeli leaders:

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-eas...-gaza-d9bedee3

[RTsucks]

That settles it for sure.

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Everybody knew it was bullshit from the start.

[RTsucks]

Hol' up, I'm getting my balls of yarn... ...proceed, now I can connect the dots.

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It's like Trump and Elon claiming Afrikaner farmers were genocided.

[m2711c]

Shooting at diplomats on a diplomatic mission doesn’t seem like a wise move to me.

[jono]

When your only tool is a gun every person looks like a target?

[highangle]

A lot of that going around. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/21/u...rs-killed.html


Someone should write a stern letter.

[summit]

31 year old Elias Rodriguez guns down a Jewish American and a Christian Israeli in front of the Jewish museum in DC, where they were attending an interfaith event focused on peace, across from an FBI office.

The terrorist then walks into the Jewish museum and says he "did it for Gaza!" and when the police arrive repeatedly chants "Free Free Palestine!" like all of his SJP heroes.

Yea... this is what "Globalize the Intifada" looks like.

[californiagrown]

Oh man. A brown guy, with a name from south of the border, murders a young, soon to be engaged, diplomatic powercouple from israel, in the name of palestine. Talk about two birds and a stone being presented to maga/fox news!how long until trump makes the keffiyeh illegal? I wonder if hamas likes this action, or cringes a little bit as it doesnt jive with their play for international sympathy? I hope Elias gets put in genpop.

[Dantheman]

Yea... this is what "Globalize the Intifada" looks like.

Will be interesting to see if they try to distance themselves or go full "Free Luigi!"

[mcski]

More like Dylan Roof

[J. Barron DeJong]

Will be interesting to see if they try to distance themselves or go full "Free Luigi!"

I have not seen anything other than condemnation. And people correctly stating that, if anything, this kind of murder can only hurt Palestinians.

If it was Netanyahu, or another Israeli leader, as opposed to a random Israeli couple, then I think you would see a "Free Luigi" type response from some people.