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    From Israeli Finance Minister yesterday:

    We are destroying everything that remains in Gaza, the world isn't stopping us.

    "The approach is entirely different from anything in the past. No more raids or in-and-out operations - now we conquer, cleanse, and stay"

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...7-e7de418e0000

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    MV addressed why there was infrastructure damage. Hamas set up the battlefield to maximize civilian carnage for both sides then pulled the trigger.

    We are all breathlessly awaiting RT's better way of fighting the war...
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    Quote Originally Posted by summit View Post
    MV addressed why there was infrastructure damage. Hamas set up the battlefield to maximize civilian carnage for both sides then pulled the trigger. We are all breathlessly awaiting RT's better way of fighting the war...
    How does this fit in with MVs explanation: In early April, just weeks after resuming its assault on Gaza, Israeli forces announced that they had taken control of the https://www.972mag.com/rafah-gaza-city-displacement-intense-bombing/"]southernmost city of Rafah[/URL] to create the “Morag Axis,” a new military corridor further dissecting the Strip. Over the course of the war, according to Gaza’s Government Media Office, the army had destroyed more than 50,000 housing units in Rafah — 90 percent of its residential neighborhoods. Now, the army proceeded to https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-flattens-rafah-ruins-gazans-fear-plan-herd-them-there-2025-04-28/"]flatten Rafah’s remaining structures[/URL], turning the entire city into a https://www.israelhayom.co.il/news/defense/article/17737871"]buffer zone[/URL] and cutting off Gaza’s only border crossing with Egypt. Y., a soldier who recently returned from reserve duty in Rafah, described the army’s demolition methods to +972 Magazine and Local Call. “I secured four or five bulldozers [from another unit], and they demolished 60 houses per day. A one or two story house, they take down within an hour; a three or four-story house takes a bit longer,” he said. “The official mission was to open a logistical route for maneuvering, but in practice, the bulldozers were simply destroying homes. The southeastern part of Rafah is completely destroyed. The horizon is flat. There is no city.”
    Just this week, Netanyahu made this link between the destruction of civilian buildings and forced displacement more explicit. “We are destroying more and more homes — they have nowhere to return to,” he reportedly said at a meeting of the Foreign Affairs and Security Committee. “The only expected result will be a desire for Gazans to emigrate outside the Strip.”

    https://www.972mag.com/israel-gaza-t...n-destruction/

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    More evidence that Iran and Hamas did Oct 7 to create the carnage necessary to torpedo a peace deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia
    https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-eas...eveal-a70ec560
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    Hamas strategy has been pretty transparent from the start.

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    Only the rabid are picking sides on this. The rest of the world want it to stop or are turning their back. Nobody with any dignity can continue to call this a war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcski View Post
    Hamas strategy has been pretty transparent from the start.
    Since the fourth post in this 224 page thread...

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    Hamas still calls it war. Hamas still calls for the complete destruction of Israel. Hamas still refuses to accept terms for hostage release and disarmament. Just Recently, Hamas's international spokesman bragged that for every Palestinian "martyred" ten more are born as replacements. The so-called “pro-Palestine” but in reality anti-Israel protestors failed Gazans because they were determined to prevent a Palestinian alternative.

    Loud anti-Israel protests have forced most to discuss the topic and take a stance on it; with overwhelming electoral majorities in the West siding with Israel. Politicians once took anti-Israel protests seriously because they assumed there would be groundswell at the ballot box. But that never happened. In recent Canadian elections the "free-Palestinian" NDP party was repudiated and lost 2/3rds of its seats in Parliament. In last year's American elections nothing polled worse than the anti-Israel movement. Last weekend, far from the world turning it's back, Israel’s Yuval Raphael came in 2nd in the Eurovision song contest after winning the overall popular vote.

    Most people in the West support truth, freedom and coexistence. Even in the Middle East, while the anti-Israel crowd in the West is radicalizing, Islamic radicalism is being discredited. Gazans are quite literally protesting Hamas by chanting, "Die Hamas! Why are you taking us with you and making women & children suffer. Give up your weapons and end this."

    And contrary to Jong's left-wing article above, Hamas continues to fight and the IDF continues to locate and destroy numerous tunnels in Rafah—and elsewhere—including recently a 2km-long underground route used by Hamas. Hamas is not rogue terrorist group, they are a state backed autonomous army who once controlled an entire region intentionally engineered for prolonged conflict. Hamas spent decades turning Gaza into fortress. Nobody who was serious believed Hamas's entrenchment could be quickly dismantled.

    Still, Israel is winning in Gaza and in the Middle East. The architects of this war including the last of the three Sinwar brothers have all been eliminated. The new, and once Jihadist, Syrian government says it will consider recognizing Israel. Hezbollah is decapitated and a shell of its former self. Israel is winning its campaign to dismantle terrorist infrastructure and reshape regional strategic alliances

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    I read mv's first sentence, realized he agreed with me and then stopped. I assume the rest was about how that means that I'm somehow required to see radicals like bibi as heroes. I don't see how one follows from the other. I continue to assume that the average Palestinian and the average Israeli would be happy to just live their fucking lives and not kill anyone. I also assume that the ones who don't are pieces of shit who should at minimum be sidelined. I don't understand what is wrong about what I'm saying and nobody seems capable of explaining that without trying to convince me to hate people I have no reason to hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTsucks View Post
    Only the rabid are picking sides on this. The rest of the world want it to stop or are turning their back. Nobody with any dignity can continue to call this a war.
    Heybro - if your hate prevents you from denouncing airborne rape raids on music festivals and seeing the perps as the bad guys, then your opinions are not founded on civilized morality as much as w2p and a predatory media culture.
    Good job minimizing the value of your cuckopinions here. Elon could not have done better.

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    I can't figure out why people keep bringing up paragliders and tunnels like they're things I could never conceive of. My questions is where this goes, not what mode of conveyance was used. The way it's going appears to be something approaching genocide. Then people say I don’t live in reality. Which of you is actually holding a rifle over there? Why are you so vehement to take either side that you can't tell me what the hidden end game is? I might agree. You act like this is total war. So what's the end solution that results from this kind of bombing campaign? Bubbles!? Ha! Funny.

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    It's total war. Hope that helps.
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    So it's 75% support hamas. The goal is to kill 75% of Palestinians. Got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTsucks View Post
    I can't figure out why people keep bringing up paragliders and tunnels like they're things I could never conceive of.
    Perhaps those words are so little used in your posts as to instill some doubt you even know what they are? More to my point about your media choices, you're now sounding like you doubt their existence and fail to see why peeps bring up paragliders tunnels and Hamas in a thread about Gazan Palestine, the poor things.
    Are you a 10/7 Denial Early Adopter beta-tester on a crunchy nightly build? Or were you just unaware that a bunch of Gazan Palestinians launched a state-sponsored coordinated assault against the civilian population of Israel on 10/7/2023, killing thousands and carrying off hostages and recording it all for Allah and Telegram?
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    My questions is where this goes, not what mode of conveyance was used.
    Bro you were in the lobby buying Mike&Ikes when the plot set up.

    Ask yourself this: Where does it always go when the baddies rape Main Character's women then run/hide behind kids?

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    I don't know what most of that means. I do know i keep hearing it was state sponsored. I do know more bombs have been dropped on women and children than state sponsors.

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    Your moment of clarity will arrive when you give up your calculated inversion of truth. At any given moment, Palestinians can choose to end their 100-year war against Israeli freedom, sovereignty, and equality. That alone would immediately bring the conflict to an end. I'm shocked people like RT & Jong never even mentions this as a possibility

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    So, 75% is the goal. Got it.

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    Fabricated slander. According to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics the population growth rate in Gaza fell from around 2.5-percent to around 1-percent, but still growing. Damning evidence of the RT’s total bankruptcy - both intellectual and moral. Unbelievable that somehow in RT's world where Palestinians are under constant bombardment and Israeli airstrikes, with so called 75-percent genocide, people in Gaza can still rise up and protest against Hamas. Proof he couldn't care less about Gazans & the evil they endure due to Hamas's terrorism

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    One the one hand, folks are saying that hamas is a multi-state-sponsored military organization with decently high levels of sophistication, high levels of funding and material support, extremely high levels of violence and fanaticism, and actively steals and hordes most/all humanitarian aid that makes it into gaza through actual violence against palestinian civilians. On the other hand, folks are saying "At any given moment, Palestinians can choose to end their 100-year war against Israeli freedom, sovereignty, and equality. That alone would immediately bring the conflict to an end". Lets game theory this out: Palestinian civilians rise up and gather a few thousand strong to march through the streets demanding and end to hamas and the war. Do you think hamas just stands down, or do you think that they will either meet the protest with force, or go after the members of the protest later that night? Now, if israel sees a group of hamas meeting that protest with force, you dont think israel just bombs the everloving shit out of that protest to get that group of hamas, and then claims nearly all dead were hamas, or were acceptable casualties? Your average Ahmed in gaza is between a rock and hardplace. In a frying pan with fire all around. fucked if they do, fucked if they dont with no ability to change their situation as hamas and israel seem to be fairly happy with the status quo.

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    I merely asked what the end game was from an israeli perspective. The question was dodged and slander hurled in my direction. I was left to infer from your posts what your answer would be. You have still failed to explicitly say that I'm wrong and counter. You stick to ad hominen tantrums. Simple questions for simple minds can apparently overwhelm them.

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    Pretty sure the end gam is to kill all Palestinians. Duh.
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    Well, I was declared bankrupt for wondering if it was 75%. Your truth and morality cards are about to be revoked. I guess we're getting excommunicated together.

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    Answering your rhetorical questions is a waste of time. Same as when JBdG harped on the exact same question while 10/7 was still going on.

    You'll find out when Israel feels like telling you - Not before.

    If you don't like that, feel free to suck a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisco Kid View Post
    Pretty sure the end gam is to kill all Palestinians. Duh.
    Hey dipshit, suppose I start a fight with you by raping your kid.

    What's your end game? Huh?
    When are you gonna stop? Huh? How many times do I have to ask? Huh? When are you going to stop? Huh? What's your point in all this anger? Huh? Huh? Here's a full-page tweet or maybe 19 in a row until you answer me! What's your end game here? Huh? Huh? Don't you know you were wrong from the start? Huh? Why can't you answer a simple question? Huh? ... ... ...

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    <p>
    Quote Originally Posted by RT
    I merely asked what the end game was from an israeli perspective
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    RTs question has been answered repeatedly throughout this thread so it is a mystery as to why he chooses to ignore the answer: the hostages are released along with Hamas disarmed and removed from power</p>

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