50 years to the day

[highangle]

Sounds like Israel isnt really prioritizing cultural influence over gazan civilians. Israel could easily control the radio, internet, TV in gaza. If they arent HIGHLY prioritizing the psyops it seems like a missed opportunity that could be very impactful towards removing hamas, and at little cost (human or money).

How you gonna remove a cancer that is >50% body mass, Doctor Pollyanna?

"Flood the zone with our messaging"

[MultiVerse]

Sounds like Israel isnt really prioritizing cultural influence over gazan civilians. Israel could easily control the radio, internet, TV in gaza. If they arent HIGHLY prioritizing the psyops it seems like a missed opportunity that could be very impactful towards removing hamas, and at little cost (human or money).

Or, and hear me out, Israel's enemies are spending more, 100s of billions more, on cultural influence campaigns both over Gazan civilians and Western civilians. Even in places like California. There’s a reason for that. The reason is that anti-Israel activists love Hamas and want Hamas to win.

[The Nuclear Option]

May I posit that the more pertinent question is how will this make Hamas go away? Cause no realistic scenarios has Hamas winning anything.

[MultiVerse]

Hamas wins by remaining in power. If Hamas retains control over Gaza then Hamas will not rebuild civilian infrastructure, it will rebuild tunnels. Hamas will start another war. This is not my opinion. This is what Hamas themselves say they will do. Peace is not possible with a fanatical jihadist regime. Israel's war of self defense must end with Hamas deposed. Otherwise, Hamas remains the effective ruling power over Gaza. If people truly want peace then Hamas has be removed from political power and disarmed. Only then can the process of deradicalization and reconciliation begin

[RTsucks]

75%.

[MultiVerse]

There, there RT (the Boney King of Nonsequiturious)

[bodywhomper]

Not sure that’s the full solution. It seems like there’s a pretty big chance that bibi will be prosecuted within Israel if Hamas remains in power. It seems like he would like to avoid that scenario.

And there are radical, racist, idealists warmongerers in decision making positions in the Israeli government. Peace and reconciliation does not seem to be their goal.

[MultiVerse]

(Pats bodywhomper on the head) There there. Palestinians rejected every peace deal since the 1930s. If people want to see an alternative to the right in Israel then Palestinians need to start taking peace seriously

[RTsucks]

Hamas used those ones as human shields and israel said hold my beer. You're talking points fail on the facts that you point out. Which is why you avoid talking about end game and instead engage in mimetic warfare.

[highangle]

Bro you only give a fuck about "End Game" because your Chinese social media masters brokered a phony Fatah-Hamas power sharing agreement that won't last 30 seconds following the necessary anihilation of Israel. And so one has to ask, "What good is explaining anything to you?"

[RTsucks]

This is the first I'm hearing of my Chinese media diet. Last I heard I was hardwired to some hamas data center and their fake news. And trying to claim I'm on social media is fighting words. I honestly don't know where this shit comes from. I have no fucking clue what their fatah-hamas whatever is. You seem to be in a bubble full of devilish paragliders driving you bonkers. Wrt your question, I'm not sure I recall you trying to explain anything, you just tried to scapegoat me.

[highangle]

Yet still demanding a maggot explain Israel's End Game seems the most important thing to you in this thread? One could almost accuse you of carping on the subject...

[RTsucks]

Ok, what is the most important thing in this thread?

[The Nuclear Option]

How you gonna remove a cancer that is >50% body mass, Doctor Pollyanna? "Flood the zone with our messaging"

Sounds like a rationale for genocide
so kill kill kill until you think all Hamas is dead? ( they wont be). Every Hamas Father, Uncle, or Brother killed is the recruitment raison d'etre for their male survivors.
is there a plan to reconstitute the whole thing?

[highangle]

It'd be fine with me if they killed every fucking Hamas. In a just world 10/7 and the like must have consequences. You prob won't accuse me of gEnOcIdE!1! considering how casually it works in your fantasy. but those that will imply that Hamas is Gaza and Gaza is Hamas.

[The Nuclear Option]

I have no sympathy for Hamas. But neither do I see how this far along in the routing of Gaza it is anything but counter productive.

[highangle]

Hamas keeps fighting so why is that?
Othatsright, propaganda.
Social media ragememes gonna make a new generation of UN-dependent babies hate Israel as much as their parents would have in another age. Gun down all the meatwaves, as long as they keep coming. Most Palestinians come from somewhere else to be Palestinian anyway, just to get at Israel.


The loving world community calls them Refugees and builds them coffee shops, and the Mid-East Journalism Industry holds them above Israeli democracy, which your posts here can attest.


Start a war>Lose>Cry>Repeat. That is what Palestine does and that is all they do. Hit them harder, I dont give a fuck.

[highangle]

Visual aid:

[MultiVerse]

Every Hamas Father, Uncle, or Brother killed is the recruitment raison d'etre for their male survivors.

I have no sympathy for Hamas. But neither do I see how this far along in the routing of Gaza it is anything but counter productive

While Gazans have no love for Israel, the population is now more enraged against Hamas. Gazans now know Hamas lacks a viable political strategy or vision for the future other than human sacrifice. In a very real sense Hamas' war is deradicalizing Gazan society (the Middle East is deradicalizing too) even as the "resistance" in the West becomes more radical.

There's a deep hatred for Hamas in Gaza. Many want nothing to do with the death cult and its Western followers. You don't have to take my word for it, translate this post to read what Gazans themselves say about the future:

https://x.com/Nouraahmed_k/status/1925616826647531923

[ex-powderbroker]

https://nypost.com/2025/06/04/us-new...militants-doj/

this is kind of interesting because he has claimed connections to hamas and his lawyer says they’re made up.

so let’s say in the year 2002 i consume OBL media and say I have a connection to him. Is it a lie if I believe I do? Regardless, this is a deplorable individual and an actual outside instigator who is also a us citizen.

so in that way not different from the guy who killed the two christian embassy staffers or the guy that lit the pa governor’s house on fire for reasons unknown.

[summit]

WaPo has to retract their claims that Israel killed 30 people because it turns out Hamas claims are not something you should take at face value.
https://x.com/washingtonpost/status/1929961283593367559

The angry short swede Greta T, now a Hamas crusader instead of a climate crusader, is dieseling her sailboat of protesters to Gaza... that won't work out.

[J. Barron DeJong]

That is not quite what they said.

They said that there was uncertainty surrounding what happened, and still is, but that while the original article acknowledged the uncertainty, it did it in a way that favored the Hamas version over the Israeli version.

They still are not saying that either version is right or wrong yet.

[californiagrown]

How you gonna remove a cancer that is >50% body mass, Doctor Pollyanna? "Flood the zone with our messaging"

Israel apparently says to let the patient die at home with no medical intervention or pallative care.

Others might say to try targeted chemo, and make the patient as comfortable and strong as possible whilst doing so.

[MultiVerse]

lol, I hope Jong never changes. A better Homer than Homer, with another totally wrong read. Credulously re-reporting a press releases from Hamas is why, “The early versions fell short of Post standards of fairness and should not have been published in that form.”

[MultiVerse]

lol, I hope Jong never changes. A better Homer than Homer, with another totally wrong read. Credulously re-reporting press releases from Hamas is why, “The early versions fell short of Post standards of fairness and should not have been published in that form.”