Wildfire 2023

[bodywhomper]

Yeah. It seems pretty great. Hopefully a strategy they can continue for other fires with good success.

[Meadow Skipper]

Problem solved.
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1707867912550089029

"They say that there's so much water up north that I want to have the overflow areas go into your forests and dampen your forests, because if you dampen your forests you're not gonna have these forest fires that are burning at levels that nobody's ever seen," Trump said to a cheering crowd.

"All the currently dry canals will be brimming and used to irrigate everything, including your own homes and bathrooms and everything, you're going to be happy, and I'm going to get it done fast," he added.

And I thought I was dumb…

[bodywhomper]

Irrigate the bathroom! I had a roommate that did that occasionally. Sucked

[PB]

Did they rake the dry canals first?!?

[frorider]

Problem solved.
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1707867912550089029



And I thought I was dumb…

“He’s a fucking moron,” Secretary of State Tillerson said of the president.

…

[bodywhomper]

https://vimeo.com/944221237?1&ref=fb...cMOC92XU5Nv6XM

I’ve been reading a bit and watching the maps of the SRF Lightning Complex fire in Del Norte Co, CA. Last weekend, they began a large firing operation from ridge lines using UAVs, basically large (landscape level) backing low severity rx burns as part of their management/suppression strategy. Not sure this has been done in CA in a long time. I think they’re getting through a lot of red tape by doing this under the umbrella of their emergency operations. And they have the people, equipment, and $$ resources available to get it done.

Here’s the watch duty post right before they lit it off.
“Conditions are looking favorable to use Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS) for strategic firing operations on the top of several ridges in the interior area between the Mosquito and Bluff #1 Fires. This strategic firing would reintroduce lighter intensity ground fire into the ecosystem as well as reduce the amounts of available fuels which otherwise have the potential to create higher intensity fires in the future. These ridges are within the established control lines that have been improved and secured with recent firing operations”

[Meadow Skipper]

https://vimeo.com/944221237?1&ref=fb...cMOC92XU5Nv6XM

Pretty good video. One of the points that really struck me was the discussion of the necessary paradigm shifts with the public and the fire management/suppression communities.

It’s going to take time, and it will not be easy.

[bodywhomper]

Yep. It seemed like a big and positive lesson learned. I wasn’t aware of many of the details described in the vid, especially related to the involvement of the Karuk tribe. Their paradigm is different than most of the public as it relates to fire. The larger paradigm shift will take a lot of time, but I’m glad the tribe put together the docu film, and I hope the video circulates enough (online, film festivals, conferences, etc.) to help move the paradigm.

[Jax]

Immediate evacuations given for my mom's neighborhood. No time to gather belongings. I haven't heard from her all day and my stepdad's VM is full. Ruidoso, NM. They got lucky last time but I have a bad feeling about this with the way the winds have been. My mom said a few weeks back that she was getting ready for fire season. But she's not that mobile or fast moving, and has several cats. I just talked to my stepdad yesterday for Father's Day, too, he was so happy. Fuck fuck fuck.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ire-rcna157651

[hikesalot]

hoping for the best, Jax

[Jax]

I don't know how they did it, but my mom's place and their surrounding neighbor's homes all survived. The land all around them burned. My mom installed a Ring camera that is currently being powered by a generac that she got after the last fire shut power for a few days. My stepdad saw the house was still standing early this morning, saw firefighters in the area from the porch view. He talked to one of them through the speakerphone, they fought all night to save their homes. It's a freaking miracle. Homes to the N, E, and S of them burned. It's unreal. Most of Alto is gone.

[Jax]

View from my mom's deck sent from one of the firefighters that saved her home (chalet-style roof, just replaced it last summer, too but photo crooked so hard to visualize). All empty land behind her house. Up the hill are trails, vacant land and views of Sierra Blanca, where Ski Apache is. I prayed to dog all night. Holy shit. I can't believe it's still there. Can barely see top of the airstream.



I was worried after the last fire that that swath of land above her house didn't burn. Now maybe she'll at least have a buffer for the next time.

And yeah, I asked her to move like 20 years ago. Driest place in the country rn. Stubborn as hell.

[hikesalot]

wow- that’s amazing! That must’ve been crazy to be talking to the firefighters through the ring. So glad to hear that her place is still standing. Awful to hear of the rest burning.

Edit- Meadow skipper started a 2024 thread- copied ur posts over there

[Hopeless Sinner]

Lahina 2023 - seemingly avoidable............


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/02/us/lahaina-maui-fire-atf-investigation.html?unlocked_article_code=1.PU4.IR6 q.BAIGb7xxZAeS&smid=url-share

"Local fire officials said on Wednesday that the crews went beyond due diligence, suppressing the fire and remaining on scene for more than five hours after it appeared to have been extinguished. With heavy machinery, crews built fire breaks to help ensure that the area was safe. By afternoon, there were no flames or smoke or glowing materials on scene, officials said.

The last fire crews departed around 2:18 p.m., returning to their station to eat and recharge.

Within minutes, the fire was spreading again and soon began consuming homes."