Chasing My Dream Daily Driver - The Heritage Lab FL105

[2FUNKY]

That mismount has me paranoid! I just moved and haven't built up a bench yet. So no DIY mount for me. The shop I'm going to use is good, but I've used good shops before with bad results. Standard mount on the 185 FL105 is -11.5? Anything else I should tell the shop guy?

Measure yourself, place tape, draw line on tape for midsole. Tell shop to mount on that line.


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[Marshal Olson]

That mismount has me paranoid! I just moved and haven't built up a bench yet. So no DIY mount for me. The shop I'm going to use is good, but I've used good shops before with bad results. Standard mount on the 185 FL105 is -11.5? Anything else I should tell the shop guy?

Measure, mark, double check, and sharpie your line on the ski ... then bring em to the shop!

Confirm the straight tape length (should be ~184.5cm), measure from tail to mark the center point (blue or silver sharpie). The measure back from that. Mark a solid full width line with a ruler where you want them to mount.

I'd say -11.5 is the standard mount and -12.5 would be the "traditional/directional" mount. I don't think anyone is going forward on these to my knowledge.

[iriponsnow]

That mismount has me paranoid! I just moved and haven't built up a bench yet. So no DIY mount for me. The shop I'm going to use is good, but I've used good shops before with bad results. Standard mount on the 185 FL105 is -11.5? Anything else I should tell the shop guy?

Go see Chance @ the Starting Gate - we measured mm’s & put the boot on / off the topsheet several times to get the mount correct. We landed at 77cm from the tail - Just as Marshal suggested for me on the 178 w a 25.5 boot.

[2FUNKY]

I've gotten a couple of days on the 192s. One would think they're just cambered mini 113s, but as it happens, they really are different beasts.

1) as turn willing as the LP105s, but more stable going straight, given the ludicrous sidecut on these things. I have exactly zero days on the 185s as of now, but willing to bet they are more apt for a direct comparison to the LP105s.

2) willingness to plane to the surface is more pronounced in these than with the 113s, which really isn't much of a shock given their rocker/camber profile. So, more forgiving doing slower turns in knee deep pow, but not quite the chop destroyers going 60mph the 113s are.

As I've divulged previously, I also have a pair of FL105s with the FL113 rocker profile. I'm very curious as to which profile is more universally good, but time will tell.

They're awesome. My legs are fucked, though. Not enough preseason workout, combined with new boots makes for a sad day after.

Cheers lads.



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Stoke!!


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[Marshal Olson]

Just dropping you a quick note to say thanks: the FL105 is exactly as advertised, perhaps even a bit better. It rocks firm conditions but is a joy in soft snow, and absolutely has taken over the DD role in my quiver. I skied it for the first time a few days ago at Revelstoke, and the conditions were a mixed bag. Lots of soft snow off piste, deep in spots, with some firm and fast groomers that turned to spring-like slush down around mid-mountain. The FL105 handled everything well, although some of the snow was just too deep, probably more for my legs than the skis themselves. I turned duties over to my Moment Countach(s) the next three days, and they really shined in snow that became a little deeper each day.

Well, we moved over to Lake Louise for the remaining three days of our trip, and the conditions there were very different: firm, boilerplate in places, but with lots of chalk to be found. I skied the FL105 each day and they were just killer. Absolutely crushed everything in their path, making transitions between varying snow mindless. Superb grip, and while I had no problem bending them into various turn shapes when necessary, man did they come alive when I opened them up and let them run. Just hip-dragging GS turns that were a blast.

I was looking for something to take the place of my M102s, as I found them to ski and sound a bit harsh, and the FL105 is so much smoother and warmer. And, as an added bonus, none of the occasional hookiness I get with the M105 and their big shovels/shorter turn radius. The FL105 is a dream.

I mounted my 178cm version 78cm from the tail, which on my pair comes in around -10.75. If I were to do it over again, I'd go -10.5, but I'm being really nitpicky. Oh, and as for construction, I hit a rock on Day 1 that would have sent most skis to their grave. The boys in the repair shop at the base of Revy were able to slap some ptex in a gaper of a hole and send me on my way. Absolutely built like a tank.

Can't wait to find an opportunity to try out the FR110, but in the meantime I'm wondering if I need to pick up a spare pair of the FL105! They really are that good.

Sorry for the long rant... thanks again!

Thought folks might enjoy some more low-tide FL105 stoke

[Just Looking]

Adding to the review as I got out on my fl105s today. East coast, mix of some freshly blown and ungroomed EC's finest, to some of that which has been polished to a fine sheen. I echo a lot of what was said above. First turn is always a tell for me, and it just felt good. At some point early on, I eventually stopped being suspicious of them and just skied. Anything and anywhere I felt comfortable and good on them. Two thumbs up. Fwiw, 184s mounted on the line.

[soul_skier]

As I've divulged previously, I also have a pair of FL105s with the FL113 rocker profile. I'm very curious as to which profile is more universally good, but time will tell.
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If any more 185 FL105s with the FL113 rocker ever get pressed by mistake, i'd be quite interested in that setup!

My C105s have been great so far, I was worried about dropping down to a 178 but no concerns with stability yet and they're a joy on the uphill. Now we just need more snow so I can see how they do in 3D snow rather than windboard or dawn patrol groomer fitness skinning.

[Pins and Skins]

Marshal or anyone with the BC105, how thick are the edges and the base? Apologies in advance if already answered prior, I couldn't find anything.

[SoVT Joey]

Go see Chance @ the Starting Gate - we measured mm’s & put the boot on / off the topsheet several times to get the mount correct. We landed at 77cm from the tail - Just as Marshal suggested for me on the 178 w a 25.5 boot.

Thats bullshit. Someone took down the boobie pictures.

[Marshal Olson]

Marshal or anyone with the BC105, how thick are the edges and the base? Apologies in advance if already answered prior, I couldn't find anything.

Howdy, all HL skis are specced with 2mm edges and corresponding base material

[arild]

Unlocking the mysteries of the 192s...

Just go fast through brush. Go fast through anything. They do not GAF. Ate shit about 100m below where this photo was taken, impressed myself by standing afterwards, shocked my son a bit.

A bit dangerous, make you feel like Thor.

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[The Iron Horse]

^ The world needs a ski named "Mjölnir!"

[iriponsnow]

Ready to roll tomorrow in the deep….

[jdub1313]

Got out on these today for the first time and holy smokes who knew skiing behind my 5 year old could be so fun. These things just wanna gooooooo!

I usually try to time runs with my little ones where I let them go first and wait till they’re about 2/3 down before I let loose and meet at the bottom at the same time. Today I did a lot of kid dodging and waiting at the bottom and had a blast doing it. By far the funnest day of the season. Thanks!


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[kevino]

[UpDog]

Got out on these today for the first time and holy smokes who knew skiing behind my 5 year old could be so fun. These things just wanna gooooooo!

I usually try to time runs with my little ones where I let them go first and wait till they’re about 2/3 down before I let loose and meet at the bottom at the same time. Today I did a lot of kid dodging and waiting at the bottom and had a blast doing it. By far the funnest day of the season. Thanks!


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Jdub1313, love the feedback, assume those are the 105’s? Sick set up, looking forward to jumping on those sticks!


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[iriponsnow]

Shots from the wild. Soooo smooth.

[Marshal Olson]

Drove up to Vermont yesterday to meet an old buddy, and I had no idea what to expect. I knew it would be firm, but because I also thought I might encounter a bit of refrozen crud, rather than step into a narrower or lighter offering, I again trusted the FL105.

Man, what a good decision. The surface ran the gamut of hardpack, boilerplate, and good ol' New England ice to deep, deep piles of sugar. The FL105 again impressed with its ability to transition between these conditions, and did so with aplomb. Controllable and smooth -- even on iced-over snowmobile tracks -- and unflappable in those situations where going straight and letting them run was the only option.

I can't imagine a more versatile ski, and I can promise they will be the first ski in my bag on every trip.

Just thought to share more reviews on these as they come in.

[Pins and Skins]

Marshal, any plans to make the FL105 with the BC105 shape, a R105 if you will?

I know arild has a proto from previous posts, but didn't know if you have plans to roll out to the masses

[pfluffenmeister]

I will be mounting soon:

185 FL185
186 R110
175 R87

Skis I like:

MX98
Monster 108
Lhasa Pow
Kusala Pow
202 Lotus 138 R2

What say you, Marshal?

[Marshal Olson]

Marshal, any plans to make the FL105 with the BC105 shape, a R105 if you will?

I know arild has a proto from previous posts, but didn't know if you have plans to roll out to the masses

Stay tuned

[Marshal Olson]

Mount Q

My Recs:

185 FL185: -11.5 (81 from tail) for a little more all arounder, or -12.5 (80 from tail) for MX98/Monster108 level smashing
187 R110: -8cm (85.5 from tail)
175 R87: On the faint line pressed into the topsheet (approx -12.5 or 75 from tail)

[Pins and Skins]

Oh god, just take my money now, I'll be first in line if you make a 178cm length

Stay tuned

[iriponsnow]

Post storm day fun on the new DD champ.

[Marshal Olson]

scrapped off injected surface alert!