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  1. #1
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    Pivot ramp/shim/AFD details

    Ok.

    I like a flat ramp. I also like adjustment range. The only way I will sacrifice adjustment range is for a flat ramp.

    So. Pivot 15s

    2 questions -

    1) where do I get toe shims and 5mm longer screws?

    2) do I actually need to shim a toe with the gripwalk AFD? Or are they flat without a shim if they used that AFD?

    Asking for myself. And probably some friends too
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    1)
    not sure

    2)
    I believe the P15 GripWalk's stock AFD height is the same as p18 alpine AFD running both spacers (1mm+4mm).

    So you should not need to run any spacers.

    (3 -> Cast GripWalk AFDs is a mm lower than the stock GripWalk AFD)

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    1) you can buy kit lifters for pivot toe(4+1mm sims and long screws) or kit lifters for PX/SPX(3+1+1mm sim and long screws) from look dealers.

    2) with gripwalk AFD, i believe 1mm toe sims are needed to make them flat.


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    Just jumping in the thread in case anyone had the opposite solution: Iím a Delta Dude and would ideally shim my cast set ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasGortex View Post
    Just jumping in the thread in case anyone had the opposite solution: I’m a Delta Dude and would ideally shim my cast set ups.
    have cascade components make you a mounting plate that builds a the required amount extra. Sure, the plates cost a bit, but you'll end up with a sweet setup with the desired delta, zero play and no chance of anything coming loose through use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasGortex View Post
    Just jumping in the thread in case anyone had the opposite solution: Iím a Delta Dude and would ideally shim my cast set ups.
    1) youíre welcome for the thread
    2) how? I sink 120mm skis when my delta is off and you dwarf me. Do you favor super traditional/directional skis?
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    I think itís just what Iím used to because Iíve been on Salomon for decades. I can adapt to flatter stuff, it just feels a hair off. I also think ideal ramp/delta is probably dictated far more by body mechanics (such as shin to thigh ratio, ankle mobility) than pure height.

    If anything I favor progressive skis. Current quiver is Line Blade, Line SFB, Armada ARG II UL, all mounted on the suggested line, all specíd pretty progressive. Iím a carver at heart I think.

    In terms of sinking skis, yes. I submarine all kinds of stuff. I donít think I like deep tapered tips much, probably related. Things like the 192cm JJ UL were awful with way less float than the shorter narrower SFB. I chalk it up to the wide shovel on the SFB, and heavily tapered stuff getting hung up on edge.
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    Pivot ramp/shim/AFD details

    See, I like the bent chet 120, but the friends I know on it with a flat ramp (pivots/alpinists) like it more than I do with shifts.

    Still wayyy better than the revolt 121 with wardens.

    Both mounted slightly rear of the line (1.5 for the bent, -1 for the revolt)

    Revolt will not float unless Iím in the backseat
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