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Thread: Finding a trade later in life

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Golf course pros, especially the assistants, are always miserable. Consistent lack of joy from those guys.
    yes

    younger hawgt spent years in a golf shop/grounds/looper/ball shagger....name it.

    most miserable pricks in life are assistant pros.

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    Thanks for all the replies, helpful and otherwise.

    I have a few months still to contemplate the career change but this thread has certainly given me some things to chew on.

    3 kids for those who asked, but wife also has a solid career she's not looking to change.. so a little wiggle room financially. But not a single guy with no bills by any means.

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    An IT security cert

    Sql programming is easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlecross View Post
    Get your PSIA Level 3 cert, some boots that don’t flex, ditch the pole straps, start a Youtube channel, and begin raking in the dough to fund your real career of day-trading.
    But first he must take two stills that show where his ankle is/isn't flexing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkgt View Post
    yes

    younger hawgt spent years in a golf shop/grounds/looper/ball shagger....name it.

    most miserable pricks in life are assistant pros.
    Assistants get the shit end a lot, in their defense. They’re expected to put in 70 hour weeks all summer and then 25 all winter. It’s indentured servitude and most the ones I’ve known know nothing else but golf, so they’re stuck.

    One thing you could do if you’re dead set on leaving your field is take a couple years and try some stuff out. Every Master Tradesman I know is dying for help. Try a few things on for size see what fits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBdude View Post
    An IT security cert

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    I don't know what the entry level pays but my son in law is killing it herding cats in the security side of IT. And they need more cats. Based on what I hear from him about work and know from my wife special ed career, the same skills the OP got balancing the needs/egos of students, parents and administrators are transferable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    This is dumb
    The girl I'm banging right now has PhD she spent 12 years in college they paid her to goto college cause she was so smart and came out debt free wecan debate how smart she is for hanging out w me

    She thought she would be wearing a drab outfit teaching the world to young and excited undergrads instead she realized that was a waste and got a real job helping plunder third world countries for financial gain

    Instead we spent the weekend drinking eating and I got to watch her run on the Beach in a bikini

    Girls dig guys who work in the trades i even changed her oil for a blow job i
    Wait a fucking minute. You're on the beach banging a samrt beautiful rich woman and you keep telling us you hate your life? And your heart can't be that bad if you can still fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Wait a fucking minute. You're on the beach banging a samrt beautiful rich woman and you keep telling us you hate your life? And your heart can't be that bad if you can still fuck.
    all he can do is watch…. brutal

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    all he can do is watch…. brutal
    I watched a guy on a buffalo.
    Or maybe a guy on a bison.
    It’s hard to tell.

    But sometimes you just have to watch.


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    Go be a pilot. 9 months at AllATP to get all your certifications. Then be an instructor for two years grinding away to get hours. Hired by a regional, do two years, then got on a with a major. Not too old to do this. First three years you will be grinding. Cost $90k to get the certs. Make lousy money while grinding to get hours for the airlines. Once hired by the airlines, smoke a Lucky. This is what I want my kids to pursue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
    Thanks for all the replies, helpful and otherwise.

    I have a few months still to contemplate the career change but this thread has certainly given me some things to chew on.

    3 kids for those who asked, but wife also has a solid career she's not looking to change.. so a little wiggle room financially. But not a single guy with no bills by any means.
    Accelerated degree to RN program? 1-3 years.

    Been an ICU nurse for 20+ years. It has treated me well, other than the last three years...

    I consider it an in-between. A grey-collar job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmmergauerTele View Post
    Go be a pilot. 9 months at AllATP to get all your certifications. Then be an instructor for two years grinding away to get hours. Hired by a regional, do two years, then got on a with a major. Not too old to do this. First three years you will be grinding. Cost $90k to get the certs. Make lousy money while grinding to get hours for the airlines. Once hired by the airlines, smoke a Lucky. This is what I want my kids to pursue.
    Good lord. Do you hate your kids?

    Between this and scrubadub's idea to become a nurse, the poor guy will never see his 3 kids for the next decade as he's either working night shifts in the ER or flying ATR 72's for some shitty regional airline and getting deadheaded in Pocatello for the weekend.

    I like the Youtube influencer idea. Just get a GoPro and start babbling about and see what sticks. We can band together here and get you some pageviews to get the ball rolling. Maybe not the ski instructor/daytrader thing as that seems to be a crowded space.

    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Wait a fucking minute. You're on the beach banging a samrt beautiful rich woman and you keep telling us you hate your life? And your heart can't be that bad if you can still fuck.
    ff's an enigma. You know this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
    Thanks for all the replies, helpful and otherwise.

    I have a few months still to contemplate the career change but this thread has certainly given me some things to chew on.

    3 kids for those who asked, but wife also has a solid career she's not looking to change.. so a little wiggle room financially. But not a single guy with no bills by any means.
    Honestly, it sounds like you just don't like dealing with people and would prefer a daily work environment where you're mostly flying solo. This is why I got out of sales/sales management and in to data analysis and sales operations. I did that in my 30s and getting another advanced degree (MBA) is what it took to hop to a different lane..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    I like the Youtube influencer idea. Just get a GoPro and start babbling about and see what sticks. We can band together here and get you some pageviews to get the ball rolling.
    FTR ‘Influenzer’ not influencer, is more accurate.[emoji6]


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    Good luck with what ever you choose!
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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Wait a fucking minute. You're on the beach banging a samrt beautiful rich woman and you keep telling us you hate your life? And your heart can't be that bad if you can still fuck.
    if I'm not crying about how tragic my life is then I'm not happy cause my life didn't turn out the way it was suppose to
    she cries crocodile tears for me twice a day when I start complaining about how my job and life suck so bad
    got an A plus bill of health last week from my cardiologist my aorta even got smaller which is nice but I still don't understand

    was at the grocery store last night and some 10 year old kid asked me if "I'm local?"

    after realizing his parents were no where to be found I said, "son, I'm sorta local, but you to can move here at age 20, smoke a bus load of weed, and pretty soon you'll be almost 50 and have no clue what happened."

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    electrician is not a bad idea... any trade you'll be working like an apprentice if you are new, at least that one will be well paid. The new guys get a lot of the high work usually.. so you'd want to be comfortable on tall stepladders , extension ladders, and scissor lifts

    There are 2 trades desperate for more manpower... HVAC tech and Boiler Technicians

    HVAC would really suck unless you get to work at a facility...peoples homes and travel to businesses sucks ass

    Boiler Tech would require quite a bit of training but pays like an electrician. But, once settled in to a facility you are kind of king of the castle in the maintenance department. Very few techs out there, so good job security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    was at the grocery store last night and some 10 year old kid asked me if "I'm local?"

    after realizing his parents were no where to be found I said, "son, I'm sorta local, but you to can move here at age 20, smoke a bus load of weed, and pretty soon you'll be almost 50 and have no clue what happened."
    You shoulda asked him if he wanted to come over to uncle fred's and watch gladiator movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    You shoulda asked him if he wanted to come over to uncle fred's and watch gladiator movies.
    Or become that airline pilot

    https://youtu.be/yh6Cc0RIaV4

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    Timber is on it - I have a feeling you will definitely be able to support your family as an influencer.

    Would hate to work 16 days a month as an airline pilot making $150k first year at a major. 5 years later making $300k as a captain. Stooooopid idea.

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    A good trade gig is crane operator. You can knock out the school and full blown certification in about 3 weeks if you hit it hard, and as much as 1-2 months depending on the school . I was oilfield but large scale construction is where it's at. Think skyscrapers. It can be damn good money and is fun and easy, given you have great hand-eye coordination. MUCH easier on the body than crawling around people's attics or crawlspaces doing HVAC work or hanging drywall (eff that). Sure, the rigging up and down process can be intense, but once you're set up, you just sit your ass in the cockpit and go, working with all the minions down below doing the grunt work. It's challenging sometimes (in a good way) and the stakes can be high so you really don't wanna screw up, BUT I think it's fun. If things go South again for my work, I've been heavily considering it. Would've done it already but our kids were too little to allow for the typical work schedule's construction require. Now that they're getting older, I might go for it at some point. Pay's not gonna be wild to start, but you "level up" pretty quick from what I've heard. As with many trades these days, operators are in short supply and the demand is high.

    I used drive and operate something like this in the oilfield:


    Not the same as the big tower cranes, but still pretty cool. There are a ton of different categories of cranes, and I'm sure they're ALL in need of people to run them. Pay attention to what's going on in your neck of the woods. Here in the big city, it's (D) ALL OF THE ABOVE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Wait a fucking minute. You're on the beach banging a samrt beautiful rich woman and you keep telling us you hate your life? And your heart can't be that bad if you can still fuck.
    hyperbole

    it worked for trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmmergauerTele View Post
    Timber is on it - I have a feeling you will definitely be able to support your family as an influencer.

    Would hate to work 16 days a month as an airline pilot making $150k first year at a major. 5 years later making $300k as a captain. Stooooopid idea.
    As far as the OP, he's not coming into this having flown in the military in his 20's and fast tracking into the left seat. He's 40+... maybe even has bad eyesight.

    To each his own, but according to my neighbor who flew for United for many years and morphed into a corporate pilot for a large bank about 7 yrs ago, airline work was worse in comparison, and he wouldn't go back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    As far as the OP, he's not coming into this having flown in the military in his 20's and fast tracking into the left seat. He's 40+... maybe even has bad eyesight.
    Requiring 20/20 vision is a persistent myth. And there is no fast track to the left seat at the airlines. It's 100% seniority. Everything else you've said is spot on. Attempting to become an airline pilot at 40+ with a family is insane. You're always just one event from starting over. I don't have a single friend who hasn't been through a merge, bankruptcy, or furlough due to economic downturn. I've been through all three, plus 9/11.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmmergauerTele View Post
    Would hate to work 16 days a month as an airline pilot making $150k first year at a major. 5 years later making $300k as a captain. Stooooopid idea.
    If you think you could make 300K in six years, why don't you do it?

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    Can't handle the pay cut, obviously.

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