Rant here about proposed mountain “improvements”

[jackstraw]

The Kachina lift is dope af btw.

Shut your whore mouth! [emoji16]

[S_jenks]

Luckily I live in Fernie, ski every day and I don't have to worry about "expansion" and/or "improvements" because they will never happen.

That actually hurts a little to hear that.

[babybear]

The hike. From L to R, Ray V, Chris V, Myself, Mike Tierney., Kate, and Joe Vasta.
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funny coincidence that you post that- we ran into Tierney the other day while he was here visiting. Glad to hear him say he is still painting and doing art too. I’d like to get one of his pieces.

I would really like to hear some opinions from the regular JHMR skiers that for some reason are not saying much.

idk. we’ve been hearing about it being “part of the long term plan” for so long now that maybe it’s not new news to be outraged about.
I also think the economy is set to downshift, interest rates are high- So I don’t see it happening too soon.

Either way, Rock Springs is great but losing that as OB terrain is certainly not going to change my pass purchasing behavior.

There was definitely outrage about the Teton Lift a few years ago that it was going to cause so many skiers into Granite la la la. It’s turned out fine. I loved that private powder reserve area to poach but it’s also been closed for Natural Selection so I’ve shifted my outrage towards the snowboarders.

I also wouldn’t mind a lower mountain lift towards the sublette side. it would spread people out at the base.

[raisingarizona13]

funny coincidence that you post that- we ran into Tierney the other day while he was here visiting. Glad to hear him say he is still painting and doing art too. I’d like to get one of his pieces.


idk. we’ve been hearing about it being “part of the long term plan” for so long now that maybe it’s not new news to be outraged about.
I also think the economy is set to downshift, interest rates are high- So I don’t see it happening too soon.

Either way, Rock Springs is great but losing that as OB terrain is certainly not going to change my pass purchasing behavior.

There was definitely outrage about the Teton Lift a few years ago that it was going to cause so many skiers into Granite la la la. It’s turned out fine. I loved that private powder reserve area to poach but it’s also been closed for Natural Selection so I’ve shifted my outrage towards the snowboarders.

I also wouldn’t mind a lower mountain lift towards the sublette side. it would spread people out at the base.

And there was some outrage about the upgrades at the King which I imagine have been forgotten? A gondie ride instead of that long cold ride on the old slow double is probably real nice I bet.

I chatted with Mike a fair bit last month. It sounded like he was doing pretty good. I invited him to visit, hopefully he takes me up on that. the girls are excited to meet him. Elms has been down here in Arizona this winter, it's been nice seeing him around lately.

[raisingarizona13]

Shut your whore mouth! [emoji16]

But Dude! It really is so siiiick!

[Djongo Unchained]

Mike on those 208 K2 GS races.

What a great ski, it dominated the village for a few years.

And 3 of you in TNF alpinist jackets, noice!

[DanoT]

for any 2 days of any season Castle is okay, if you don't care about your skis

I've skied at Castle with excellent snow coverage and I have also visited, skied one day and left because coverage was just "adequate" as the liftee put it. The thing is with Castle and all the wind there can be some great wind sift skiing, but in a low tide year stumps that should be long since buried by mid season can actually be lurking inches from the surface.

[raisingarizona13]

Mike on those 208 K2 GS races.

What a great ski, it dominated the village for a few years.

And 3 of you in TNF alpinist jackets, noice!

Those K2's were a mean ski at the time. Mike skied the weird shit back then too. He'd basically stay up all night painting, show up on the mountain around noon and only do laps in Chute 1 and 1/2 or Chute 2 1/2, both the gnarliest closed areas at the Boat.

Those NF jackets were sturdy AF. I'd get one again if they had em in a longer, parka style and a hood fit for helmets.

[upallnight]

The hike. From L to R, Ray V, Chris V, Myself, Mike Tierney., Kate, and Joe Vasta.
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Man I loved my TNF Steep Tech jacket. I remember saving for it…

[raisingarizona13]

I've skied at Castle with excellent snow coverage and I have also visited, skied one day and left because coverage was just "adequate" as the liftee put it. The thing is with Castle and all the wind there can be some great wind sift skiing, but in a low tide year stumps that should be long since buried by mid season can actually be lurking inches from the surface.

Extreme winds can giveth but they can also taketh. It's a thing down here too.

I squared off with a stump hidden just under the surface one time coming off of Four Pines in an upside down snowpack during the drought season of 01 in JXN which left a traumatic memory I'll never forget much like the time I ran full force at the giant steel spinning wheel in the playground when I was 4 or 5 years old and smashed the f out of my shin on it's ridiculously sharp metal edge. I've been extremely careful with anything suspicious ever since. To the point that other snow sliders think I'm overly conservative. Sometimes though, I see those same people break a leg or get an injury from going too hard too early. I like my legs not being broken.

[Jax]

....but I moved there on the New Years Eve of the BIG January of 96...

I didn't start skiing passionately until I was 28, wish that wasn't the case. I was still in school in '96 and rarely left Denver to get up to the mountains. Also, when I did randomly get up to the mountains, I snowboarded. In Sorels. Ha. Glad to experience this winter, many folks are saying best in 30 years. At least I'm here for it, Dec/Jan were sick!

As an ex-Boat resident losing the Canyon/Golf Course would be the nail in the coffin to buying a season pass imho.

You'll probably shit a brick at the lift line they already cut last summer, goes right through the heart of GC. First time I saw it driving to town from Strawberry I had to stop the car while screaming 'HOLY SHIT'! They already cut the skier's right boundary line, too. Click the link for sketches & pic; lots of trees are going down this summer. The only thing I'm upset about at this point is likely losing Pioneer trail for the duration of this summer. New lift will maybe go down all the way to Burgess Creek.


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[MagnificentUnicorn]

From the perspective of someone that might drop in for two or three day visits as a tourist skier buying day tickets (probably half off though) I don't want to spend my limited time doing long hikes. So yup. I hike and tour a shit ton too but when I'm "in area" I like doing hot laps and hot laps on Kachina are fucking siiiick. It's massive highlight for visitors. That lift in part is what makes me so hungry to get back. So again, it's a matter of perspective and for ski area management it often doesn't make a ton of sense to maintain hike to terrain that isn't accessible for 99% of their paying customers. Again, you and I aren't the key demographic they are after.

And.....you don't need a lift to get anywhere! So why ride them ever.....I guess. *I'm rolling my eyes

You’d hate Mission Ridge then. It’s around 20 minutes of hiking between 400-500’ gain to get to the best terrain. It allows you to ski balls deep untracked blower three days after a storm though. Like yesterday. There are plans for a lift to the area but it won’t see a lot of traffic, it’s really sharky, usually windfucked and there will be zero grooming. It’ll help patrol avoid the slog, which is brutal on big days. We’ll see if it happens in my lifetime.


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[MagnificentUnicorn]

Would you put a lift up Highlands bowl?
Open the patrol lift to public up the Ridge at Bridger?


I came to rant about "proposed mountain improvements".
Losing RS at JHMR to inbounds skiing would be gutting to locals in example.

Is there no other backcountry in the area?


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[raisingarizona13]

You’d hate Mission Ridge then. It’s around 20 minutes of hiking between 400-500’ gain to get to the best terrain. It allows you to ski balls deep untracked blower three days after a storm though. Like yesterday. There are plans for a lift to the area but it won’t see a lot of traffic, it’s really sharky, usually windfucked and there will be zero grooming. It’ll help patrol avoid the slog, which is brutal on big days. We’ll see if it happens in my lifetime.


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I'd enjoy that too. I like it all really but if I'm spending money and have a very limited amount of time I prefer hot laps. If it's your home hill, well that's a different story. What I'm saying is that I can understand why ski area management would see more value in better access for their customers that keep the lights on. This isn't a black and white thing. I like it all. Hike to areas are awesome if you're a local and want some powder preservation but how many tourists are going to use that terrain? Again, I like that experience but I can't blame a mountain for seeing it differently. It's a business. A place like Taos struggles to make ends meet so if I lived there I wouldn't believe I was entitled to have them keep things the way they have been just for me and my friends. The mountain success is the communities success so yeah, I kind of think f the trust funder ski bums that bitch about "soul" or whatever BS they're spewing.

I've also spent a huge chunk of my life skiing. I've had many 100 or so day seasons. I don't really give a shit much anymore. I have fun with whatever.

[raisingarizona13]

I didn't start skiing passionately until I was 28, wish that wasn't the case. I was still in school in '96 and rarely left Denver to get up to the mountains. Also, when I did randomly get up to the mountains, I snowboarded. In Sorels. Ha. Glad to experience this winter, many folks are saying best in 30 years. At least I'm here for it, Dec/Jan were sick!




You'll probably shit a brick at the lift line they already cut last summer, goes right through the heart of GC. First time I saw it driving to town from Strawberry I had to stop the car while screaming 'HOLY SHIT'! They already cut the skier's right boundary line, too. Click the link for sketches & pic; lots of trees are going down this summer. The only thing I'm upset about at this point is likely losing Pioneer trail for the duration of this summer. New lift will maybe go down all the way to Burgess Creek.


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That's awesome! Stoked you're enjoying it Jax.

I didn't realize the new lift was going to really give immediate access in and out of FCC. I think that's fucking killer for the mountain. Hopefully they keep all off the main lines opened up and it doesn't take them weeks after new snow to get it opened up for the public. It would be a bummer to get an ultra conservative person in charge of the snow safety program after it was always open in the past.

[baron]

Lifts? Come on think bigger, gondolas


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they were going to use Balloons to get us uphill... but, prob not a great idea with an air force base so close

[MagnificentUnicorn]

I'd enjoy that too. I like it all really but if I'm spending money and have a very limited amount of time I prefer hot laps. If it's your home hill, well that's a different story. What I'm saying is that I can understand why ski area management would see more value in better access for their customers that keep the lights on. This isn't a black and white thing. I like it all. Hike to areas are awesome if you're a local and want some powder preservation but how many tourists are going to use that terrain? Again, I like that experience but I can't blame a mountain for seeing it differently. It's a business. A place like Taos struggles to make ends meet so if I lived there I wouldn't believe I was entitled to have them keep things the way they have been just for me and my friends. The mountain success is the communities success so yeah, I kind of think f the trust funder ski bums that bitch about "soul" or whatever BS they're spewing.

I've also spent a huge chunk of my life skiing. I've had many 100 or so day seasons. I don't really give a shit much anymore. I have fun with whatever.

Sounds like we’re on the same page. I want my home mountain to stay open even if I don’t always agree with their plans. I’ve had many 80-100+ day seasons now and I get plenty of untracked fresh snow. I don’t want to be called a NIMBY. It’s really like a second home/family for me


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[toast2266]

Open the patrol lift to public up the Ridge at Bridger?

So what's your opinion on slushman's? Seems like it's worked out fine, but I'm sure some people consider it an atrocity.

[goldenboy]

funny coincidence that you post that- we ran into Tierney the other day while he was here visiting. Glad to hear him say he is still painting and doing art too. I’d like to get one of his pieces.

Wait, where's Tierney? I have a hard time imagining him anywhere but JH

[powpig]

I've said for years that no matter where you ski, you're probably convinced your home mtn is the absolute worst run ski area on the planet.
I've seen nothing in this thread to make me think otherwise.
Carry on.....

[MagnificentUnicorn]

I've said for years that no matter where you ski, you're probably convinced your home mtn is the absolute worst run ski area on the planet.
I've seen nothing in this thread to make me think otherwise.
Carry on.....

I’m going to say you’re wrong. The current management at my home mtn is great. They’re really trying to improve the skier/rider experience. The vibe at the hill is great and the locals love the place and are very loyal.

Part of it is that the employees come first before the paying customers. They’re treated with respect and like family. This isn’t my opinion the GM told me this over beers after skiing one evening.



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[DanoT]

I’m going to say you’re wrong. The current management at my home mtn is great. They’re really trying to improve the skier/rider experience. The vibe at the hill is great and the locals love the place and are very loyal.

Part of it is that the employees come first before the paying customers. They’re treated with respect and like family. This isn’t my opinion the GM told me this over beers after skiing one evening.



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My home mountain is very well run and Ski Canada Magazine once called the Sun Peaks locals the "friendliest in ski country". This is because when Nippon Cable bought Tod Mtn out of receivership
in 1992 (and renamed it Sun Peaks) the first thing the new management did was hold a social night for the locals, asking them to bring old pics and slides. The first thing the operations manager said was: "You know the mountain, we don't; we want to hear from you". They have been true to that commitment on numerous occasions since then, including altering the Master Plan when objections were raised and a petition circulated asking management to NOT shorten the over 10,000ft long Burfield chair when the new re-aligned Crystal Chair was installed.

[raisingarizona13]

Man I loved my TNF Steep Tech jacket. I remember saving for it…

FKNA! Classic shit man. Who didn't want to be like Scott?

[Meadow Skipper]

Shut your whore mouth! [emoji16]

+1

[rideit]

I have the same question, where is Tierney living these days? Last I saw him was at the Iggy shop, I don’t think he was living his best life. (Then again, neither was I ) Glad to hear he is still grooving.