The Atomic Ski Boot Thread

[QuackerBacker]

Do I need to spell it out for you? Maybe they have a one boot quiver. Maybe they are going on a trip where they will be primarily touring and will spend just a single day riding the lifts.The gnar bar makes perfect sense in these situations.No-one needs to be constantly reminded about how amazing of a skier you must be because you fold a boot in half and only ski "real" boots. Get over yourself.If you aren't going to be helpful, there is no reason to respond only to stroke your own ego and denigrate other's choices.

Maybe he is really fat? Lulz, real boots!

[HukuTa_KydecHuk]

Cracked my Hawx XTD 130 BoA somehow... I saw this only with K2 previously
https://imgur.com/a/42Q2T5x

[onenerdykid]

Definitely a bummer... for sure a warranty situation and you'll get a replacement. Best thing to do is get in touch with your local Atomic retailer (ideally the one you bought them from if possible) and they'll get it going. If you run into any issues or bumps along the way, hit me up here in a DM and I'll get you sorted.

[turnfarmer]

At one point some recommended a special socket to use on the XTD cuff bolt on the inside. Tried to search, no luck. Anyone help please?

[onenerdykid]

It should be a 15mm thin wall socket. Regular 15mm won't properly grip.

[jason.havlicek@gmail.com]

Is the redster tx abducted at all and will the shock absorbing boot board be available separately?

[GoldenBC]

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Maybe he is really fat? Lulz, real boots!

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I took a regular socket and grinded it down shorter on a belt sander to remove the chamfered inner edge, then I chamfered outer edge to fit with the small clearance to the plastic surrounding the nut.&nbsp;</p>

[skimeow]

I am currently in a 26.5 rec LV (98mm) boot trying to get a snugger fit. I measure 268+/-3 and I have narrow heels, very high arch and instep, and an average forefoot that tolerates a lot of lateral compression. I was able to try on a ZA in 25.5, and I liked the precision of the heel and forefoot but I went numb from instep pressure even after swapping in the tongues off my touring liner (with 50+ days and all the foam cut out in that spot). I think I heard somewhere that the redster is good for high insteps, so I am looking at the STI 130 as an option. I have a few questions:

• Does the STI actually fit a high instep better than other race boots like the ZA? Or am I imagining that?
• I will allow that downsizing AND going to a race boot might be too much at once. Given I can almost fit a ZA in 25.5 would I be better off in a 25.5 Redster STI? Would I be swimming in a 26.5 STI?
• I was really impressed by the stock liner with cork on the Rossi. What customization is available with the stock liner in the STI?

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[onenerdykid]

@jason's email - no, none of the Redster/Remedy boots are abducted. They sit at 0° so that our race department technicians can start from a neutral canvas and adjust the abduction or adduction for our athlete's needs. Most go out at 0° still. And you can get the GW soles, ShockStopper boot board, and ShockStopper spoiler to turn a TX into a race-looking Remedy. Reverse Remedy? There's some kind of mullet-y metaphor there...

@skimeow - so the STI/STR is the lowest volume race boot on the market. Put it into perspective for you, it is about 5mm lower over the instep than our TI/TR boot (which is analogous to Lange's Z-series boots). You're probably better off starting with the TI or upcoming TR boot. Having recently cut up a lot of competitor liners, I am 99% sure there is no cork in the Rossi/Lange WC liner, but I could be mistaken. Most (like our STI/STR/TI/STR liners) are using really high end, slow rebound memory foams that craddle the foot super nicely.

[skimeow]

I see. The STI and TI differ by a lot more than one letter then. Glad I asked! The TI is listed as a 95mm last which is rec racer territory. Is that just a quirk of how it is measured or is it as anatomical as the CS / ZR / etc?
Rossi definitely advertises &ldquo;cork-flow&rdquo; in their WC liner. The liner I tried had what felt like a bladder on either side of the heel area, where the red leather is. I could feel the inner fabric slide over a smooth surface that felt more like pastic than fabric or foam. The contents of the bladder could be squished around without rebound. This was a boot from a few model years back though, so maybe they have since cheaped out.

and I think the TX remedy should the the Redemy. Redmedy? Redemy. It&#39;s a red remedy.

[onenerdykid]

The TI is from a period of time when brands didn't quite understand how to accurately talk about "last width". We're talking 2003 - that's how old this mold series is. When we were asked to give the last with for TI & STI back then, one of our technicians walked into the factory through a set of calipers on the metal last and these are the numbers from that measurement: TI = 95mm and STI = 93mm BUT this is not what you end up with concerning the actual boot you buy and use. Because plastic shrinks after injection, the last width of the actual plastic shell is TI = 93mm and STI = 91mm.

When we brought both boots back into the range around 2019 or so, we kept the old last measurements to let people know that the boots were the same exact boots that we had before. Calling TI a 95mm lasted boot is correct when referring to the metal last. The actual boot you have is 93mm. Always has been, always was.

These were the only two boots in our range that we communicated the metal last width. On every other boot, we communicated the actual width of the plastic shell. This is why, on paper, the CS is 96mm and TI is 95mm but they fit world's apart from one another.

For the 25/26 range we finally stop communicating the metal last width and only communicate the plastic measurement of our boots.
STR (which is the slight update to STI) = 91mm
TR (which is the evolution of TI) = 93mm
TX (which is the evolution of CS) = 96mm

I like the Redmedy, that's a good one.

[jason.havlicek@gmail.com]

How I go about abducting a TX? I have duck feet to the point where switching to a soma-tec boot made a huge difference.

[jason.havlicek@gmail.com]

Excuse my inaccuracy in my earlier posts. I&#39;m asking about the TR! How do I abduct the TR? and can I add the rubberized boot board to the TR?

thanks

[onenerdykid]

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Abducting/adducting a boot is some boot fitting wizardry that most shops won&#39;t really touch. What some shops might do is what Shane McConkey used to do with his set up: abduct his bindings. Definitely not easy, but easier than abducting a boot.</p>
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There aren&#39;t ShockStopper boot boards planned for the TR or STR unfortunately.</p>

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

I have some 27.5 remedys im looking to move on from. My Ankles are not flexible enough to handle the 16 degree lean. Tried it all. Had to go back to a lange which was a shame because the fit and flex suited me quite well.

DM me if interested.

[a-star]

Hey ONK, getting into some minutae here. I know that flex ratings between brands can be vastly different, for example 140 in brand A might flex like a 120 in brand B. But is there any kind of standardization of the temperature that these flex ratings are measured at, in a controlled setting, perhaps? This question comes out of the roll out of Atomics new Formula plastics. I am trying to get a better idea of what a 130 Remedy might feel like compared to other 130 flex boots I have skied, with the caveat being that I have skied in other 130 flex boots at outdoor air temps between 15 degrees F and 50 degrees F. For example, I am currently in a Lange RX 130 LV, might I expect the 130 flex of the Remedy to feel like my Langes at 15 degrees F, 50 degrees F, or a temperature in between? I am guessing there is not straightforward answer, but any perspective would be appreciated.

[onenerdykid]

There is zero standardization when it comes to flex.

A Remedy 130 will feel stiffer at room temperature/warmer spring conditions than a Lange RX 130 LV, and it might feel slightly softer at -20°C/-5°F. There is simply a more consistent, more predictable feel to the boot across a wide range of temperatures. In other words, there is much less of a difference between super warm and super cold. Traditional PU is very bipolar in this regard, Formula plastic isn't. You also wouldn't change your flex rating because of it. If you normally ski 130 flex, race-inspired boots, stay there. This boot just feels more consistent, more predictable in comparison.

[El Chupacabra]

I have some 27.5 remedys im looking to move on from. My Ankles are not flexible enough to handle the 16 degree lean. Tried it all. Had to go back to a lange which was a shame because the fit and flex suited me quite well.

DM me if interested.

PM incoming - curious about this boot and where you're located.

[BlueberryBlues]

I have some 27.5 remedys im looking to move on from. My Ankles are not flexible enough to handle the 16 degree lean. Tried it all. Had to go back to a lange which was a shame because the fit and flex suited me quite well.

DM me if interested.

Interested as well. I don’t have the credits to DM, but if you can DM me I’m definitely interested


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[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

They have been re homed.

[m5bc60]

Is the redster tx abducted at all and will the shock absorbing boot board be available separately?

What is the benefit of having abduction in a ski boot?

[onenerdykid]

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What is the benefit of having abduction in a ski boot?

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Since most people stand slightly abducted (duck footed), this is in most ski boots (not just Atomic) because it makes the boot more natural/more comfortable when people stand in it.&nbsp; Hawx boots utilize a very small amount of this and most people are surprised that it is in the boot when I tell them.&nbsp; With some other expressions of it, like Fischer&rsquo;s SomaTec or Nordica&rsquo;s Aggressor, it can be more noticeable and potentially get in the way of alignment or stance, but the amount in Atomic is very minimal.</p>
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If a racer sets their boot up with it, it was because it made them faster.&nbsp; That&rsquo;s all they care about and don&rsquo;t follow normal boot fitting rules or do-s/don&rsquo;t-s.&nbsp; If they time faster, they run it.&nbsp; If they time slower, then they don&rsquo;t use it.</p>
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[motopsycha]

On my last day out I seem to have lost the inner cuff pivot screw and alignment plate thing on my Redster CS [emoji637][emoji639][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]]]’s. The local Atomic shop is closed all week so I was wondering if anyone sold replacements online?


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[normie17]

they are abducted because it turns the ski in easier. good for beginners and intermediates, bad for advanced because they tend to ski the ski more true to it's radius and don't need help from the boot to turn the ski.

[westoxified]

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i&#39;ve skied the Remedy 130 for the second half of the season and it is a revelation. it is a chore to enter and exit but once on, the boot is magic. granted it is also a roomy 96 around the mid-foot area, with the toe box width (height is nice a low) and at the metas it feels like a 98mm from 15 years ago.</p>
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it has been a very long time since i&#39;ve had a shell that close to my ankle and the transmission is about as pluglike as it gets, without any harshness or lifted feeling. the ski feel is the best on the market with the fancy plastic teaming up with shockilla boot board and my 42*2 year old knees have never felt better near the end of a season. hurray for new PU formula-tions. oh and on hot days, it remains a ski boot unlike much of what&#39;s available.</p>
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this boot is easily the best thing that has happened to my skiing since quitting the pow ski everyday nonesense.</p>
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skied it with Sender Free 110s P15 and with supercharged proto QST 106 (the good old green shape) and shift 2s.</p>