Hey, where’s ****?

[Meadow Skipper]

Exhausted skier rescued after group leaves her behind in Colorado backcountry.
https://www.outtherecolorado.com/new...d2beccde0.html

When your group is shaky, thank goodness for the InReach.

[Sutter]

People should get charged for one of those "rescues."

Stupid tax.

[Core Shot]

The 38-year-old skier from Fruita was headed to the 'Betty Bear' 10th Mountain Division Hut, found at 11,100 feet of elevation, when the faster friends she was with went ahead. At some point after that, the woman determined that she was too exhausted to reach the target hut and opted to call for help via the SOS feature on her Garmin InReach device.

The woman reported that she had food, but that her water was frozen.

A set of new coordinates from the woman revealed that she was attempting to turn back to the trailhead. She then reported to authorities that someone from her group that had reached the hut turned back for her, but that she was too exhausted to continue.

[m2711c]

I’m tired.

[TBS]

The mind reels at the question “can you name all the shit done wrong here?”

This would be a good case study for a survival course

[Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo]

The worst part is she was only about 1.5 miles from the hut and had just finished the steepest part of the route.


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[m2711c]

...jimmy, anybody seen hoffa lately?

[old goat]

The mind reels at the question “can you name all the shit done wrong here?”

This would be a good case study for a survival course

The top of the list has to be choosing assholes to go skiing with. They need to see their hames in print.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

The top of the list has to be choosing assholes to go skiing with. They need to see their hames in print.

That and not realizing that you don’t have the fitness required for a trip like that


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[Meadow Skipper]

The top of the list has to be choosing assholes to go skiing with. They need to see their hames in print.

This.

[da klixter]

Who was riding "sweep" ??

CK

[m2711c]

so, just to be clear, nobody has seen Jimmy?

[baron]

That and not realizing that you don’t have the fitness required for a trip like that


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indeed !

may want some popcorn for this thread & be sure your water is not frozen- you may get really thirsty

[Core Shot]

Who was riding "sweep" ??

CK

No one wanted to sweep that lazy fat ass

Her garmin was sweep

[BCMtnHound]

This has been the reality of the ‘new’ backcountry user for some time. Most of our summer call-outs are related to relatively easy trails from a ‘backcountry’ where folk ‘twist an ankle in their flip flops’, ‘had no map of the trail so had no idea of where they would end up’, ‘consume some rec substance and got lost’, or in winter ‘I have no gear but I am gonna summit this frozen waterfall’, etc…. kinda scenario. People do stupid shit, and call for help when shit goes sideways. If it prevents them from going into a worse recovery SAR perspective, I’d rather these journeymen adventurers call for help sooner than later.

As much as public shaming feels so good, I really don’t want a culture of not calling for help when help is more easily provided. A large part of the rec market is smart people doing stupid shit.

[LeeLau]

That and not realizing that you don’t have the fitness required for a trip like that


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People can have bad days. Or just be grossly misinformed about the effort needed. But it's still a tough bridge for me to cross to justify leaving someone if and when you've committed to them in your party. Assuming that was the arrangement of course

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

Getting the beers/dab rig to the hut is always more important than making sure the entire party is actually gonna make it.

[PB]

Darwin's really pissed.

[Clownshoe]

This has been the reality of the ‘new’ backcountry user for some time. Most of our summer call-outs are related to relatively easy trails from a ‘backcountry’ where folk ‘twist an ankle in their flip flops’, ‘had no map of the trail so had no idea of where they would end up’, ‘consume some rec substance and got lost’, or in winter ‘I have no gear but I am gonna summit this frozen waterfall’, etc…. kinda scenario. People do stupid shit, and call for help when shit goes sideways. If it prevents them from going into a worse recovery SAR perspective, I’d rather these journeymen adventurers call for help sooner than later.

As much as public shaming feels so good, I really don’t want a culture of not calling for help when help is more easily provided. A large part of the rec market is smart people doing stupid shit.

Great post. These type of people are in infinite supply unfortunately. But calling for help before the rescue turns into an epic is the best case scenario here.

This is the reality for all rescue teams who have this type of clientele. In my part of British Columbia these kind of rescues are all too common.

[Danno]

People can have bad days. Or just be grossly misinformed about the effort needed. But it's still a tough bridge for me to cross to justify leaving someone if and when you've committed to them in your party. Assuming that was the arrangement of course

I do a lot of hut trips, and have also been to this particular hut. We'll have a group of 16, so people routinely are separated, and someone is in the back. Everyone knows what they're getting into and we wouldn't leave someone who was obviously struggling, but I've been the guy in the back before, and never felt abandoned. We're always keeping track of where everyone is and who hasn't made it to the hut, we have radios, and if someone doesn't arrive in a reasonable time we'll use the radio or go looking. I can't indict the rest of this group until I know more about how she was "left", how she represented herself, what she did, etc...

[Meadow Skipper]

…I can't indict the rest of this group until I know more about how she was "left", how she represented herself, what she did, etc...

This is the internet, get with the program.

That said, she seems to have felt abandoned and maybe reasonably so. Whoever was designated sweep, and someone should have been, fucked up. If no one was designated sweep, that was fucked up.

I feel confident saying that.

[Core Shot]

Who sweeps the sweepers?

Feel all alone back here.

[mcski]

[da klixter]

Nobody sweeps the sweeper. I ride sweep most of the time, usually on dirtbikes. I treat it like I'm out solo, and know where i,'m going. I like riding, or skiing at my own pace, and often catch up when the 'leaders' get confused or have a wreck - I have the first aid kit. I agree that calling for help early is prefered to waiting for things to go really bad, but there should be accountability for the leader or organizer of the trip.

CK

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Sounds like another opportunity for one of those docu-style dramas where the interviewed participants all have differing and conflicting stories of the event.

I'm sure there's about ten different scripts being worked on right now.