The Black Crows thread

[stuntmanbo]

Id be concerned with a touring exclusive ski weight difference of 120 grams but will you be using the Corvus as a touring ski or more of a ram rod type ski?

It was a 120g difference between 2 skis of the same pair. I wanted to use them for what you’re calling « sidecountry » with some ATK R12.

I took some BMX 105 instead for that, which are heavier btw.

I don’t mind the weight being heavier than spec I mind one ski being so much heavier than the other one and BC not giving a shit about it.

[Samski360]

It was a 120g difference between 2 skis of the same pair. I wanted to use them for what you’re calling « sidecountry » with some ATK R12.

I took some BMX 105 instead for that, which are heavier btw.

I don’t mind the weight being heavier than spec I mind one ski being so much heavier than the other one and BC not giving a shit about it.

I had the same issue with some Atris. There’s a thread on it somewhere, but the short version is 5% or so weight variability within a pair of skis is considered within tolerance for resort oriented skis. Touring specific skis should have a tighter tolerance. If comparative weights are important to you, go to the shop with a scale. I did that for a pair of current version Atris and found a pair that were within 25g of each other and slightly lighter than published weight. I use those skis exclusively for touring. YMMV.

[halliday]

It was a 120g difference between 2 skis of the same pair. I wanted to use them for what you’re calling « sidecountry » with some ATK R12.

I took some BMX 105 instead for that, which are heavier btw.

I don’t mind the weight being heavier than spec I mind one ski being so much heavier than the other one and BC not giving a shit about it.

Dealing with gear manufacturers as an unhappy customer is sometimes frustrating when you hear their response to your problem. At lest the retailer took them back and got you headed in the right direction. +1

[SoVT Joey]

It was a 120g difference between 2 skis of the same pair. I wanted to use them for what you’re calling « sidecountry » with some ATK R12.

I took some BMX 105 instead for that, which are heavier btw.

I don’t mind the weight being heavier than spec I mind one ski being so much heavier than the other one and BC not giving a shit about it.

interesting side country choice paired with techs. I’d be headed towards a Atris.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

You guys weigh your skis?


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[SoVT Joey]

You guys weigh your skis?


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it’s kinda like penis measuring for adults.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

120 grams is like two tennis balls, or 20 quarters.


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[SoVT Joey]

For science…




both 12.5 pounds. Whew. Good thing.

[halliday]

^^That was close...

[SoVT Joey]

My xt3 140 is a half pound lighter per boot apparently. So that was a fun experiment.

[waxman]

For science…




both 12.5 pounds. Whew. Good thing.

nice boots make up for any weight difference

[whambat]

Got the Corvus’s mounted up. Have them next to my kid’s and my Animas. They ended up 7mm behind the line to best deal with existing holes. Got them out today for the first time, and holy fuck I’m impressed. Not exactly the conditions these were meant for. Two runs of man made groomed snow that was mostly scraped up by the time I got up this afternoon. However, once I realized I needed to just treat them more like a GS race ski and ignore the rocker, they really came alive. They carve really well, and not just for a 107 wide full rockered ski. They felt really good on edge and plowing through the scraped up groomer granule piles. At the same time, easy to transfer from a carve to smear. Since the trails were crowded being only two runs open, I probably only got them up to about 40mph, but they felt really stable and I know they can go a lot faster. And with the rocker, they are super easy to make sliding shorter turns. Can’t wait for more appropriate conditions. Anyway, thanks to everyone on this forum who talked this ski up enough to convince me to try them out.

edit: extra thoughts: As MagnificentUnicorn compared it to the Invictus, I’d agree, but I’ll add I think the Corvus is a better carver despite the full rocker. Largely, I’d give credit to the shorter turning radius stated 21m vs 26.5m and the longer traditional sidewalls vs cap past underfoot on the Invictus. Also, the Corvus is much easier to pivot and smear with that rocker. However, you have to really know how to get the Corvus on edge to take advantage of its carving. I could see someone who isn’t yet capable of good edge angles struggling to engage the carving mode of this ski. More traditional camber skis, like the Invictus was (and even when I had almost no camber left from breaking those in, the still had more flat area before any rocker kicked in), are easier to get an edge to bite. The ski probably only has about 90cm of flat camber under foot before the rocker kicks in. If you aren’t comfortable getting your hips inside the turn (more like a racer) and mostly angulate at knees to create edge angles (probably like 80% of ski instructors) I think you’d miss out on what this ski does, at least in terms of carving. Maybe that’s why this ski has such polarizing reviews? Of course, these are just my first impressions as I was only on them for a few hours. Yet, when I can get a wider ski to carve like that, I get really excited, especially when I can do some effortless medium slide turns effortlessly in addition to more powerful carves. The carving capabilities reminded me more of my Bonafides or Stockli SR 105s, which is high praise as I really like both of those.

[Qilimanjaro]

whambat what brake size pivot is this on the Corvus?

[halliday]

Usually people will run a 115 brake on that ski.

[whambat]

whambat what brake size pivot is this on the Corvus?

It’s a 115.

[SoVT Joey]

edit: extra thoughts: As MagnificentUnicorn compared it to the Invictus, I’d agree, but I’ll add I think the Corvus is a better carver despite the full rocker. Largely, I’d give credit to the shorter turning radius stated 21m vs 26.5m and the longer traditional sidewalls vs cap past underfoot on the Invictus. Also, the Corvus is much easier to pivot and smear with that rocker. However, you have to really know how to get the Corvus on edge to take advantage of its carving. I could see someone who isn’t yet capable of good edge angles struggling to engage the carving mode of this ski. More traditional camber skis, like the Invictus was (and even when I had almost no camber left from breaking those in, the still had more flat area before any rocker kicked in), are easier to get an edge to bite. The ski probably only has about 90cm of flat camber under foot before the rocker kicks in. If you aren’t comfortable getting your hips inside the turn (more like a racer) and mostly angulate at knees to create edge angles (probably like 80% of ski instructors) I think you’d miss out on what this ski does, at least in terms of carving. Maybe that’s why this ski has such polarizing reviews? Of course, these are just my first impressions as I was only on them for a few hours. Yet, when I can get a wider ski to carve like that, I get really excited, especially when I can do some effortless medium slide turns effortlessly in addition to more powerful carves. The carving capabilities reminded me more of my Bonafides or Stockli SR 105s, which is high praise as I really like both of those.

you nailed that.

[Stuntmonkey]

Well you definitely convinced me to mount. I'm gonna pull my pivots off my captis and put them on the corvus once I order the things i need form slidewright.

[iriponsnow]

I have to concur. The Corvus defies logic…. So I bought another pair.

I’m not a fan of being head of the line, for me.

[iriponsnow]

^fuq u Joey

[Sandbox]

2022 Nocta ( white with orange chevrons). Where we mounting these?? On the line?


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[54-46]

2022 Nocta ( white with orange chevrons). Where we mounting these?? On the line?


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Mounted my 185s OTL when I had them. Loved them there.


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[SoVT Joey]

2022 Nocta ( white with orange chevrons). Where we mounting these?? On the line?


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what length nocta, how tall are you and what do you weigh

[Sandbox]

what length nocta, how tall are you and what do you weigh

185, 5’11” 180


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[SoVT Joey]

185, 5’11” 180


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im the same size. Got a 185 at first. And it was tough. I would possibly go +1 cause I notice it felt short on the tail but had plenty of float. I like my 190 at our size a lot more. On the line. Skis tight shit so well. And still allows hammering open shit at high speed

[Sandbox]

im the same size. Got a 185 at first. And it was tough. I would possibly go +1 cause I notice it felt short on the tail but had plenty of float. I like my 190 at our size a lot more. On the line. Skis tight shit so well. And still allows hammering open shit at high speed

Hmmmm you are the BC whisperer, keeper, aviculturist…. Would plus 1 give a touch more versatility?? Ability to get back to the lifts?

Currently in the quicker have a camox, Corvus and now these to go with a K2 marksmen and OG bentchetler.


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