All Things Volkl Thread

[kc_7777]

Popped into the Whistler Outlet in Squamish on the way home today and helped myself to the last pair of 184 Kendo 88’s. Now I have all four in the collection! [emoji6][emoji16]

Were you skiing yesterday? We need to do some WB laps together.

Also, I think we need an updated quiver pic banditman.

KC


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[Djongo Unchained]

Well, I skied the m102's in a foot+ of 8% pow over some pretty large firm bumps and got my ass handed to me yesterday.

I kinda knew it wasn't the ski for the condish but I needed to know...
Dropped a shoe about 8 turns in, din at 11. Haven't done that in a while. Stuffed a tip and click.
Had to make sure I didn't bend the ski, I jammed it. Buried bumps were imperceptible so I was hanging on trying to figger 'em out.

In short order, racing back to the chair through the harbor chop on the groomer, I was passing everyone huffing/puffing on the smooth groomed lane.

Sweet rides these...

[Bandit Man]

Were you skiing yesterday? We need to do some WB laps together.

Also, I think we need an updated quiver pic banditman.

KC


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Just skied Monday with my sons. Rare moment of having school and work off so may a quick trip up north. My 19-yo loves the steeps and wide open spaces where he can let his Mantra M102’s run. Just fun to ski with my boys at one of my favorite places.

And yeah…we need to connect this season. I need the KC tour of WB!

[Shorty_J]

I don't remember which thread he said this (maybe multiple threads), but I agree with @kid-kapow when he says that the BMT 122 is kind of magic.

A more traditional mount point than I'm used to on my powder skis lately, so the tips come up more naturally than I feel like my more progressive skis do, and you can lean into the tips with no dive or catchiness... but you can also release them into a sustained drift at will. With the mount point less balanced than my other skis it's a bit surprising how long you can go sideways without anything weird happening.

And a strong tail that I feel like I can finish a powder turn on better than my more recent powder ski experiences, but didn't hand me my ass when I got back-seat.

Surprisingly composed when going straight over soft chop... more damp than I expected.

In firm chop they were not as at home, and they are not intuitive on the groomers getting back to the lift... kind of vague turn initiation there... you can't really carve them... you have to go straight-ish, or drift them all the way back to the lift. I switched out at noon when the slightly heavier-than-usual snow was setting up into firm piles, but they were an absolute riot up until then.

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[jacob_dbu]

Apparently the Volkl Revolt 114 rec mount point is ~ -7cm. Just heard from someone who's been on a pair.

[Shorty_J]

Apparently the Volkl Revolt 114 rec mount point is ~ -7cm. Just heard from someone who's been on a pair.

Any chance that person can get you a rocker profile pic?

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[kid-kapow]

yeah, I've been gushing on them for years. They are just sooo fun in the right conditions. There are better skis for dense variable, but I find them to be a hoot in untracked and anything soft.

With the mount point less balanced than my other skis it's a bit surprising how long you can go sideways without anything weird happening.

Yeah, agreed - and it so easy to modulate/moderate you turns to suit how they want to be skied. They let you know if you over cook it without doing anything weird.

...and they are not intuitive on the groomers getting back to the lift... kind of vague turn initiation there... you can't really carve them... you have to go straight-ish, or drift them all the way back to the lift...

I find them to be pretty decent on groomers for what theey are provided I have lots of pressure on the outside foot and ride the sidecut.

[jacob_dbu]

Any chance that person can get you a rocker profile pic?

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I put them back to back to look at the rocker, but didn't snag a pic. They're heavy and stiff pretty uniformly tip to tail. Definitely directional, pretty standard rocker camber rocker setup with early rise tip and tail, moderate splay, and I'd say a 1cm of camber - pretty sizeable amount of camber.

I think they are going to rip. Skis are so good these days.

[phatty]

.l Skis are so good these days.

Ain't that the truth! We're living in a golden age for skis right now.

[gaijin]

Ain't that the truth! We're living in a golden age for skis right now.

And as a quiver builder— buy heritage. Buy niche.

[bamboocoreONLY]

I put them back to back to look at the rocker, but didn't snag a pic. They're heavy and stiff pretty uniformly tip to tail. Definitely directional, pretty standard rocker camber rocker setup with early rise tip and tail, moderate splay, and I'd say a 1cm of camber - pretty sizeable amount of camber.

I think they are going to rip. Skis are so good these days.

I got 5 laps on them in most conditions at Loveland a few weeks ago (some fresh fast snow on the ridge, a few bumps and some groomers) and they indeed rip. For Loveland not having a ton of long fast vert, I still found them plenty maneuverable considering how fast they really want to go. Actually quite funny how they really aren't much like the 104 or 121, 100% more directional but I still think they fit in the revolt line nicely. Really enjoy how volkl makes the revolt series so damp for the cores they use. I have a pair hopefully coming any day now, will also have a few pairs to sell in the shop soon too if anyone is interested.

[kid-kapow]

I took my new light weight (for me) main touring setup out for a few laps in the resort today (lots of pow, but limited visibility).

And man, 186 BMT109s are freaking fantastic skis. I've mounted them with SkiTrab Vario.2s at recommended and use Tecnica Zero G Peo Tour boots (superfeet soles and will get either booster straps or Atomic Duals straps). Holy schmokes - the setup skis just so well given its (lack of) weight.

Too bad the various BMTs have gotten so expensive - they are some of the best touring skis ever made imho.

[swissbro]

I got 5 laps on them in most conditions at Loveland a few weeks ago (some fresh fast snow on the ridge, a few bumps and some groomers) and they indeed rip. For Loveland not having a ton of long fast vert, I still found them plenty maneuverable considering how fast they really want to go. Actually quite funny how they really aren't much like the 104 or 121, 100% more directional but I still think they fit in the revolt line nicely. Really enjoy how volkl makes the revolt series so damp for the cores they use. I have a pair hopefully coming any day now, will also have a few pairs to sell in the shop soon too if anyone is interested.

Would you let me know when the Revolt 114s are available?

Ray

[Robik]

Listed a few pairs of all time favorite Volkls in GS.

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[bamboocoreONLY]

Would you let me know when the Revolt 114s are available?

Ray

Hey Ray, shoot me a message so I have it there. thanks

[Shorty_J]

Hey Ray, shoot me a message so I have it there. thanks

Would you be willing to post a rocker profile pic?

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[ripvw]

Anyone spend time on the Decon line of skis? The 76 looks like it would be a super fun groomer/carving ski.

[Lord Thomas]

Paging bry to get his take on the M4 Mantra and how it fits into the whole M102/K108 conversation?

[bry]

Yeah LT I have a few days on the M4 and it is an unbelievable off piste ski. Great in chalky steeps and buff, pretty good in bumps its never gotten tied up in the limited time I've had them.

Even with the lack of camber and ability to have an upright stance it is a clear sibling to the M102, and the -9.5ish BC mount makes it a quick pivot, though less versatile and dynamic as the M102 with its micro camber and multi radius sidecut. It's about the same level of quiet and smooth. Two full sheets of metal makes me feel like it could be smoother than the frame of the M102, but I think that is more of a perception than reality.

Bandit's comments were spot on that the M102 is the evolution of the M4 and if I were looking to replicate it I would be comfortable mounting the M102 forward +2 as the closest thing available, though I do like the rear line on the M102 best as I do prefer driving my skis in a forward stance most of the time.

Lastly I'll add that the M102 feels stiffer in the tips and flex is more stout than the M4.

[se95]

I got 5 laps on them in most conditions at Loveland a few weeks ago (some fresh fast snow on the ridge, a few bumps and some groomers) and they indeed rip. For Loveland not having a ton of long fast vert, I still found them plenty maneuverable considering how fast they really want to go. Actually quite funny how they really aren't much like the 104 or 121, 100% more directional but I still think they fit in the revolt line nicely. Really enjoy how volkl makes the revolt series so damp for the cores they use. I have a pair hopefully coming any day now, will also have a few pairs to sell in the shop soon too if anyone is interested.

any idea how much the 191 revolt 114s weigh?

[turnfarmer]

FWIW the catalog page posted on newschoolers says 177 is 2251g.

[Robik]

I'm staring at my newly mounted pair of Revolt 121 as I read all the things I wanted to hear about 114...

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[joesnow_]

On the fence between a 184 M102 GEN1 or a 191 GEN2 M102 - is that extra length really going to be punishing? Everything I read online has the OG M102 in a 184 as the sweet spot - but I'm slightly reluctant to go short, at 6ft 3 and 215 I enjoy all the extra ski I can get.


Typically ski 188+ skis but none with Metal (QSTs) - looking to use this as a lower snow ripper, fresh days will be well covered by my blanks. Need someone to tell me to either man up and go with the 191s or STFU and stick to the 184s

[Robik]

On the fence between a 184 M102 GEN1 or a 191 GEN2 M102 - is that extra length really going to be punishing? Everything I read online has the OG M102 in a 184 as the sweet spot - but I'm slightly reluctant to go short, at 6ft 3 and 215 I enjoy all the extra ski I can get.


Typically ski 188+ skis but none with Metal (QSTs) - looking to use this as a lower snow ripper, fresh days will be well covered by my blanks. Need someone to tell me to either man up and go with the 191s or STFU and stick to the 184s

Just do it! Unless you ski in the area with lots of trees or like tight bump fields. I'm 185/6'2 and have both M102 (MK2) and K108 in 191 and never felt I would benefit from downsizing. But in general I prefer longer lengths. Haven't been on gen1 M102, but the new one is maneuverable enough for me.

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[Djongo Unchained]

Man the fuck up.




Im about 5'9" and 215 at the moment, the 191's are fine for me.

More maneuverable than ya might think. Not an aircraft carrier, more like a destroyer.
Yesterday I asked myself if this M102 was gonna displace my usual DD and I think so.
I have yet to really put my finger on it, but it's better suited to my future ski needs, than the past.
Still bomber at speed but unusually quick in tighter stuff so long as I don't have a foot of pow slowing the swing.
I think the lighter tip and tail and the tailored titanal give this rather gs ski, a bit more all mountain versatility.
I love the feel of that tip out there, it's where I'm most comfortable and these things will back you up if'n ya get into a wrestling match with the terrain.