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  1. #326
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    well being from ddeepest darkest Vangroovy I was amazed
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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    6:30 after work dog walk. Why is this better?


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    However many are in a shit ton.

  3. #328
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    It's part of life living north of the 45th parallel

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    Quote Originally Posted by jm2e View Post
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    6:30 after work dog walk. Why is this better?


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    Try the 6:30AM walk it is lovely right now. It’s better because it is the natural time.

    https://holtenterprisenews.com/2021/...t-that-failed/


    Noon is fucking noon no matter how much the white collar men of the world want to bend time and space to their will. The whole world doesn’t turn on 9 to 5. It’s bad enough we already start schools earlier than is developmentally appropriate to accommodate the parents who have to get to work by 9.

    DST only serves urban white collar workers. It doesn’t serve the grey collar support staff whose kids are going to school in the dark, being passed by the stay at home wife of the white collar guy who is driving his kids to school. It doesn’t serve the blue collar workers who have to be out the door just that much fucking earlier.

    DST was all started by some rich fucking finance guys in London who wanted to golf after work. Fuck that it’s time for it to die.

  5. #330
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood26 View Post
    Noon is fucking noon no matter how much the white collar men of the world want to bend time and space to their will.
    Meh, the only thing that isn't a completely manmade construct with clock time is the fact that noon is pegged to the sun's meridian and that's already fucked by dividing the earth into time zones, so you're generally off by 30 minutes, plus or minus, even without DST.

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    Yes, so all the more reason to not add another 1hr a deviation.
    "Let's be careful out there."

  7. #332
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    Quote Originally Posted by jm2e View Post
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    6:30 after work dog walk. Why is this better?


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    It’s like you hate winter. Weird. I’m assuming that you live in the US, where? Anyone living north of 45 and complaining about changes in the diurnal cycle is stupid and/or should move south.


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  8. #333
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    I live at 44.8.

  9. #334
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    Having lived 48 deg - 32 deg, I’ve found 39 ish pretty ideal. As long as tall mountains are close by.

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    Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
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    Dude Listen to mtm. He's a marriage counselor at burning man. - subtle plague

  11. #336
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    Quote Originally Posted by jm2e View Post
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    6:30 after work dog walk. Why is this better?


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    Because no one can see your dog shitting so you don't have to pick it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatty View Post
    The idea that more people would rather have sunrise at 4am than sunset at 9pm is dumb. Yes, there are people recreating at 4am. I do it too. I'm doing it so I can either
    1. Have solitude on busy trails or
    2. Get it done and home before work.

    These early morning people will often be recreating that early regardless of when sunrise is. I know that's the case for me. I would way rather have a late sunset that I can enjoy out on the lake with family with more time after work. I suspect there are more people who agree with me based on the packed trailheads, boat launches and the lake itself.

    I'm fine with status quo. It's really not that hard to remember and has almost zero impact after the first day.
    This guy gets it.

  13. #338
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    Wait, its light at 4 AM?
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    I don’t care which we use but changing the clocks twice a year is stupid.

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    Permanent Daylight Saving Time

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    Wait, its light at 4 AM?
    During DST civil twilight starts at 0423 and the sunrise is at 0503 on the summer solstice where I live


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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    During DST civil twilight starts at 0423 and the sunrise is at 0503 on the summer solstice where I live
    Right. In other words, 3:23 and 4:03 if we stayed on standard time.

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    Permanent Daylight Saving Time

    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Right. In other words, 3:23 and 4:03 if we stayed on standard time.
    Perfect, as my grandpa would say, “we work from can’t see to can’t see”.

    Sunset is at 2101 and civil twilight ends at 2142 on the summer solstice with DST. I don’t think a 2000 sunset would be bad with permanent PST. You would still have light until nearly 2100.
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    Your grandpa played in the band at an all night speakeasy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Your grandpa played in the band at an all night speakeasy?
    No, he was a logger


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownski View Post
    I don’t care which we use but changing the clocks twice a year is stupid.
    How many clocks do you actually have to change these days? Some cars, microwave, stove, a watch?


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    Quote Originally Posted by joetron View Post
    How many clocks do you actually have to change these days? Some cars, microwave, stove, a watch?


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    I’m guessing he meant changing the time.


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  22. #347
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownski View Post
    I don’t care which we use but changing the clocks twice a year is stupid.
    I dunno about stupid, but it’s annoying

    I can roll either way…with that in mind, it’s seems an improvement to eliminate the annoyance

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