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03-09-2024, 08:48 PM #16301
Whatever. lol. That's not even a thing.
I want this war to end. Even though the West provoked it with NATO expansion, Ukraine and Russia need to sort this out, without the West interfering again.
If Putin wants to invade another country, that's their problem. If Putin wants to invade NATO, then sure its WW3. But he's not that stupid.
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03-09-2024, 08:49 PM #16302man of ice
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haha
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03-09-2024, 10:25 PM #16303
Lolwut? Fake anti-war fascists are definitely things. I mean call you back, 1930s. And, hey, watch out for that Adolf Hitler. He's a bad egg:
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03-09-2024, 11:31 PM #16304
NATO expansion is not provocative, its a defensive alliance.
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03-09-2024, 11:34 PM #16305man of ice
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Well it's provocative if you want to invade somebody and you wouldn't be able to if they were to join NATO, duh.
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03-09-2024, 11:41 PM #16306
Exactly. Just about out of available targets.
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03-10-2024, 08:05 AM #16307
HA HA, fuck yeah.
In addition to recently shooting down 2 of the Russians A-50 AWACS planes, now Ukraine sent a swarm of almost 50 drones into Russia and attacked the aviation factory that builds and repairs the A-50.
Modern warfare done right.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...es-into-Russia
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03-10-2024, 02:46 PM #16308
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03-10-2024, 03:39 PM #16309
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03-10-2024, 03:43 PM #16310
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03-10-2024, 03:53 PM #16311
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03-10-2024, 04:32 PM #16312
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03-10-2024, 04:51 PM #16313
To add: if Putin left Ukraine, there will be no need for negotiation. Putin could end the killing tomorrow. If Ukraine stopped fighting the killing would only get worse.
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03-10-2024, 05:00 PM #16314
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03-10-2024, 05:05 PM #16315
Fucking Canadian fascist says what?
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03-10-2024, 05:16 PM #16316
A bold faced propaganda lie told by Putin supporting fascists in the West. We know it's a lie because Putin repeatedly dismissed NATO expansion as the reason for invasion even when prompted by Tucker Calrson to throw MAGA a bone. Tucker tried very hard to drive the interview in a way that fit the MAGA narrative like NATO expansion, the 'who runs America' question, demonic forces on earth (WTF !?), all of it pretty cringe with Putin waving all of it aside
Putin's motivating factor, stated repeatedly by Putin himself, is his sincere belief in Russian ethnic superiority. Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, according to Putin himself, is about ethnic Russian imperialism. What is now indisputable reality even finally clicked for Rod a few pages back in post #16226. The Putinsplaining history lesson reason for the war is his obsession with his own legacy of expanding Russian borders. In a nutshell it's about Putin's fascist megalomania.
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03-10-2024, 06:06 PM #16317
Undermining Ukraine: How Russia widened its global information war in 2023
As the full-scale war in Ukraine enters its third year, Russia has doubled down on its worldwide efforts to undermine Kyiv’s international standing in an attempt to erode Western support and domestic Ukrainian morale. Years of close monitoring of not only state-sponsored media such as Russia Today (RT) and Sputnik, but also Russian activity on Telegram, TikTok, X, and other social platforms, points to one conclusion: In the propaganda war, Russia remains fully committed to conducting information operations around the globe, playing the long game to outlast any unity among Ukraine’s allies and persist until Ukraine loses its will to fight.
Western sanctions applied in the wake of the initial invasion disrupted Russia’s ability to reach some European audiences with its state-sponsored media outlets. But Russia has since adjusted its information operations to focus more on social media; in addition to attacking Western public support to fund Ukraine’s defense, it has expanded targeted propaganda efforts in different parts of the world, including Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East.
And Western support for Ukraine is indeed wobbling, most notably in Washington, where additional aid to Ukraine has been held up for months in Congress. Many factors influence voters’ and lawmakers’ support for sending weapons and money to Ukraine. Whether or not Russian propaganda has played a decisive role, the outcome of decreasing Western material support for Ukraine’s defense is the clear goal of President Vladimir Putin’s information war. And with recent battlefield wins such as the capture of the city of Avdiivka alongside propaganda wins such as the death of opposition leader Alexei Navalny, Putin’s position at home and abroad is stronger than ever.
Russia has actively employed information operations to undermine Ukraine since at least 2014, as Digital Forensic Research Lab (DFRLab) researchers around the world have documented in detail through their ongoing monitoring efforts. In the lead-up to the February 2022 invasion, Russia employed disinformation in the form of narrative warfare to justify military action, mask its planning, and deny any responsibility for the war. And as the DFRLab detailed in its landmark February 2023 report, Undermining Ukraine: How the Kremlin employs information operations to erode global confidence in Ukraine, Russia’s information strategy began to shift following the 2022 invasion, focusing on eroding Ukraine’s ability to resist. In this follow-up to the first edition of Undermining Ukraine, we explore how Russia further entrenched these efforts throughout 2023, developing new messages and techniques while recommitting to ones that continue to prove effective.
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https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/in-d...n-war-in-2023/
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03-10-2024, 06:53 PM #16318
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03-10-2024, 07:28 PM #16319
Hey Kanadian Kommie, you keep regurgitating this point like Putin's pet parrot. Please explain how NATO expansion provoked Russia to invade Ukraine given NATO has never invaded a country or started a war. You think Russia isn't pointing any missiles at anyone?
Aww fuck it, you get paid for this shit."You're young and you got your health, what do you want with a job?"
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03-10-2024, 07:38 PM #16320
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03-10-2024, 08:25 PM #16321
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03-10-2024, 08:34 PM #16322
Someone Gave Lenny Another Bunny
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03-10-2024, 09:30 PM #16323man of ice
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03-11-2024, 06:39 AM #16324
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03-11-2024, 12:45 PM #16325
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