Att zipfit gurus!

[jackattack]

I have a pair of WC SW that I think could be improved fo my needs by removing the SW panel. Has anyone modified their Zips in this way?

This pair was a gift and had never been skied when I received them, so to me it's preferable to modify than purchase new.

[jackattack]

I have a pair of WC SW that I think could be improved for my use by removing the SW panel. Has anyone modified their Zips in this way?

This pair was a gift and had never been skied when I received them, so to me it's preferable to modify than purchase new.

[The Iron Horse]

I have a pair of WC SW that I think could be improved for my use by removing the SW panel. Has anyone modified their Zips in this way?

This pair was a gift and had never been skied when I received them, so to me it's preferable to modify than purchase new.

That's a great question, and I've wondered the same thing. I like the fit of my WCSW but aside from not needing all that stiffness/support, they were just too bulky for my Head Raptors and I ended up grabbing the new Corsa. I'd like to find a use for the WCSW, though, and removing that panel would make them more versatile.

[waxman]

Salomon silicone spray (blue spray can) sprayed on Salomon 747 10 DIN version, melted the toe piece. Also melted plastic Tyrolia AFDs. This was early 90s so I haven't tried anything similar since. YMMV.
Have also had silicone spray degrade stitching on high end hiking boots so I'll keep it away from my zipfits.

[GoldenBC]

I’ve removed panels off GFTs to play better with the Hoji lock and it worked no problem.

[pfluffenmeister]

I’ve removed panels off GFTs to play better with the Hoji lock and it worked no problem.

Which panels did you need to remove?
I just picked up a Hoji Pro 130 and GFT.

[GoldenBC]

Is it a new GFT that does not have the metal lace loops above the foot?

[pfluffenmeister]

Is it a new GFT that does not have the metal lace loops above the foot?

Looks like an old one as it has the metal eyelets.

[Westcoaster]

Is it a new GFT that does not have the metal lace loops above the foot?

What else did they change?

[GoldenBC]

Looks like an old one as it has the metal eyelets.

The lower plastic below the flex zones. Notice the different shape. you Can pull this entire piece off by cutting the threads. Cut the plastic piece short of the front of the liner so you don’t open up that main seam. And when you cut out the seams where the plastic dips into the leather at the Achilles be careful.

[FlimFlamvanHam]

I have a pair of WC SW that I think could be improved fo my needs by removing the SW panel. Has anyone modified their Zips in this way?

This pair was a gift and had never been skied when I received them, so to me it's preferable to modify than purchase new.

I was about to do the same then just said screw it and bought Garas. I had picked the SWers up for a decent price so it was not going to be a big loss if I butchered them. But in the end I figured I'd mess them up too much, especially where that SW aspect is sewn into the lace trim and where it meets the sole covering. I just figured I'd have to leave a trim of plastic or try and re-bond a bunch if I removed it all and neither option was appealing. Anyway, looking back I wished I had: I'd still have the full leather guts and have saved a few hundred $ even if the end result didn't look ideal, I think it would have worked.

Yours sound in too good of shape to try it on since you could sell them for good $. But then saving a couple hundred $ is a lot. I'd also suggest calling ZF and asking if that SW aspect is also bonded in place with an adhesive which would make it even more of a pain to remove.

IMHO, unless you know you want that SW aspect, you don't want that SW aspect.

[GoldenBC]

The plastic is lightly glued. Once you cut the stitching, you just peel it off. The glue isn’t that strong.

I wouldn’t pull the stitches at the lace trim. On the GFT I would just cut it at that point and leave a bit of plastic on the liner. I haven’t looked at the SW to see how it interacts with the sole. That could be problematic.

[waxman]

Here's a new one. Anybody have a customer "complain" that they now have too much room in the toebox compared the stock liner? I spend enough time punching toe boxes that I'm thinking this is a good thing, no?

[TAFKALVS]

Here's a new one. Anybody have a customer "complain" that they now have too much room in the toebox compared the stock liner? I spend enough time punching toe boxes that I'm thinking this is a good thing, no?

For me it’s vertical height especially just behind the toes.

I started wearing socks with padding under the toes and heels. That neoprene is thin (I’m honestly surprised the choice around such a thin neoprene.

I will say it’s tough to switch zipfits in to boots that already were already punched for a thicker liner.

[mr_pretzel]

Is it a new GFT that does not have the metal lace loops above the foot?

No metal on the new ones, and new velcro for spoilers, nice.

[GoldenBC]

Here's a new one. Anybody have a customer "complain" that they now have too much room in the toebox compared the stock liner? I spend enough time punching toe boxes that I'm thinking this is a good thing, no?

All the time. For the most part it’s a good thing. Most people want a tighter ankle and looser forefoot but generally it’s a big too much room with the Zipfit. Luckily, most boots have so much bootboard rocker that you can just put a forefoot shim on the bootboard or in the liner and it will snug things up.

Im curious to explore other options like a toe cap sock type of thing.

[ASP]

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[SWskier]

Here's a new one. Anybody have a customer "complain" that they now have too much room in the toebox compared the stock liner? I spend enough time punching toe boxes that I'm thinking this is a good thing, no?

Just got Gara’s and this was my immediate complaint. So much vertical space in the forefoot. Drew at ZF said this is actually a common complaint, even among some of their athletes. They are looking for a cap type solution and asked to keep them posted on what works.

I’ve been taping various materials to the top of forefoot before I glue down some 2mm neoprene. So much more responsive without the forefoot slop for me.




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[enginerd]

Here's a new one. Anybody have a customer "complain" that they now have too much room in the toebox compared the stock liner? I spend enough time punching toe boxes that I'm thinking this is a good thing, no?

I have this issue over the top of my forefoot. For intuition liners in my bc boots, I’ve glued 2-4mm of material over the top of the forefoot. For zips I use a thin shim on top of the boot board.

Can post pics of the material over the top of the forefoot next week if folks are interested.


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[SoVT Joey]

This is why I like my zips so much. I barely need a toe box punch anymore. I had a pair of boots that were fit with the stock liner. Then I got my zips and immediately noticed more space. I dropped down to a 97 last on my new boots and needed a lot less work and the boot/liner combo feels a lot better. Both boots are Lange xt3. I feel like it’s very important to have zips then get fit with them as opposed to what I did and got zips after already being fit with a different liner.

[SnowMachine]

This is why I like my zips so much. I barely need a toe box punch anymore. I had a pair of boots that were fit with the stock liner. Then I got my zips and immediately noticed more space. I dropped down to a 97 last on my new boots and needed a lot less work and the boot/liner combo feels a lot better. Both boots are Lange xt3. I feel like it’s very important to have zips then get fit with them as opposed to what I did and got zips after already being fit with a different liner.

Agree. I like the spacious toebox. I can stick a toe warmer on without issue in my LV Langes. I have zero issues with my feet moving around. My instep and ankle are totally locked in place. I think my feet stay warmer in the ZF, too.

[kc_7777]

Got a fancy steam oven in our kitchen reno last year. It also works as a regular oven and can be set to as low as 130C (our other oven starts at 200C).

Perfect for baking the Zipfits for a bit (~120-140C is the ref baking temp per the ZF website).

Baking the ZF liners has definitely made them more comfy. Prolly should have done it right away.

K

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[arild]

Got a fancy steam oven in our kitchen reno last year. It also works as a regular oven and can be set to as low as 130C (our other oven starts at 200C).

Perfect for baking the Zipfits for a bit (~120-140C is the ref baking temp per the ZF website).

Baking the ZF liners has definitely made them more comfy. Prolly should have done it right away.

K

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KC, are you mistaking the C for an F here? I don't think I've ever seen any recommendations for baking Zipfits at 130 degrees Celsius. [emoji846]

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[kc_7777]

Oops. Ya 130 F not C! Replace all C’s with F’s above.


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[arild]

Oops. Ya 130 F not C! Replace all C’s with F’s above.


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You were consistent, though. [emoji23]

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