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  1. #101
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    Blister dropped a flash review, any members care to summarize? The teaser: https://blisterreview.com/gear-revie...-g-peak-carbon

    Some comments on Wildsnow suggest the Peak is pretty high volume, and has a lot of instep height compared to the F1-LT/AlienRS.

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    They are a high volume fit especially in the heel pocket

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    High volume fit with a med volume heel and ankle. Ascent is very good but concerns with the lower buckle being positioned for breakage when boot packing seems to be pretty consistent in every review. Descent is said to be no different then any other 2 buckle boot and still isn’t close to a 4 buckle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benneke10 View Post
    They are a high volume fit especially in the heel pocket
    IME every boot below 1100 grams has a loose fitting ankle and heel, it goes with the territory since they all have a floating carbon cuff and can't build it too narrow since the width can't really be altered, etc. The Peak Carbon feels like an "average" 100mm-ish fit to me in the 26.5, but I won't be able to wear a 26.5 (toenails destroyed in 8 hours on Rainier in July) so it's effectively a 101-102mm last in my size (27.5).

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    I felt like the Tecnica had more volume in the heel than the F1 LT and Atomic Backland but year none of them are particularly snug in the heel. Its a shame because the boot feels like it would ski a little better than both if the fit was right. The Gignoux Mountain probably has the best heel hold of any in the category I've tried. I haven't put on the new Salomon or Dynafit or Dalbello boots yet but I don't have high hopes for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benneke10 View Post
    I felt like the Tecnica had more volume in the heel than the F1 LT and Atomic Backland but year none of them are particularly snug in the heel. Its a shame because the boot feels like it would ski a little better than both if the fit was right. The Gignoux Mountain probably has the best heel hold of any in the category I've tried. I haven't put on the new Salomon or Dynafit or Dalbello boots yet but I don't have high hopes for them.
    IMO it skis a little better (stiffer, more positive power transfer) even with the looser fit. I don't have the F1 LT but have skied the predecessor (Alien RS) and have the 2023 and older Backland Carbons, the Peak Carbon is definitely stiffer than either. I have a thicker than average heel and ankle, FWIW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregL View Post
    IME every boot below 1100 grams has a loose fitting ankle and heel, it goes with the territory since they all have a floating carbon cuff and can't build it too narrow since the width can't really be altered, etc. The Peak Carbon feels like an "average" 100mm-ish fit to me in the 26.5, but I won't be able to wear a 26.5 (toenails destroyed in 8 hours on Rainier in July) so it's effectively a 101-102mm last in my size (27.5).
    So, it's a sizer up in length? After attempting to make some Fischer travers in my usual size work, i think I'm sizing up in light boots from now on.

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    It is for me. I measure 27.7 on a Brannock, always ski in 26.5 alpine boots, usually can get a 26.5 touring boot to work with a big toe punch for length (Atomic Backland Carbon with the same 288mm BSL is an example). Will be going with a 27.5 Peak Carbon when they arrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregL View Post
    IMO it skis a little better (stiffer, more positive power transfer) even with the looser fit. I don't have the F1 LT but have skied the predecessor (Alien RS) and have the 2023 and older Backland Carbons, the Peak Carbon is definitely stiffer than either. I have a thicker than average heel and ankle, FWIW.
    Greg - any insights or thoughts on comparison between ZeroG Peak and MTN Summit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3pin View Post
    Greg - any insights or thoughts on comparison between ZeroG Peak and MTN Summit?
    Not yet, have not skied or tried on any of the new MTN boots.

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    Anyone have an estimate on when these will start showing up in the US? Eager to get my foot in one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleaches View Post
    Anyone have an estimate on when these will start showing up in the US? Eager to get my foot in one.

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    My local shop is telling me mid November. They're late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleaches View Post
    Anyone have an estimate on when these will start showing up in the US? Eager to get my foot in one.

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    Regular peaks are showing up now. Peak Carbon's are looking like mid-late November. I wouldn't count on them lasting long once they hit the store. Almost every shop I know of is pre-selling them before they even show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASmileyFace View Post
    Regular peaks are showing up now. Peak Carbon's are looking like mid-late November. I wouldn't count on them lasting long once they hit the store. Almost every shop I know of is pre-selling them before they even show up.
    Yeah I mean that's what I'm worried about... Not wild about purchasing before I get to try them on and compare to some of the other offerings this year.

    Thanks!

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    We've gotten a few sizes of the carbon in at our shop. Can't imagine pre-buying a touring boot. They are shiny though, so you know

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    One of the early non-skiing criticisms is limited rearward rom. That's relative to this class of boot and coming from a skimo racer who almost certainly has higher expectations in that regard than the average mag

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhetherMan View Post
    One of the early non-skiing criticisms is limited rearward rom. That's relative to this class of boot and coming from a skimo racer who almost certainly has higher expectations in that regard than the average mag

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    I think that's partially a product of the super stiff overlapping fingers of carbon-reinforced Grilamid over the instep, which really lock your foot down in the boot - open throat designs allow more midfoot lift in touring mode. That feature also makes it difficult to put on if you have a taller instep (walk mode for entry, for sure) but it also makes it ski better. TBH lack of ROM never really crossed my mind while skinning in the Peak Carbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWFlow View Post
    So, it's a sizer up in length? After attempting to make some Fischer travers in my usual size work, i think I'm sizing up in light boots from now on.
    I’d say it depends.
    I measure 282 and 284 mm for length on a Brannock (weighted foot, 1 or 2mm less unweighted). 96 en 97mm for width(unweighted). High instep.
    My resort boots are previous gen Cochise 27.5, no punches.
    I had 27.5 Zero G Tour Pro, and needed a small punch for my big toe, because the tip of toe box was more pointed than the Cochise’s.
    I have Dalbello Quantum Free in 28.5.

    Today I tried on Zero G Peak. The toe shape is perfect for me, so I can fit in 27.5.

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    Totally fine in length for inbounds, I’d say maybe tiny bit (1/3 size) shorter than my Cochise’s.

    Despite my high instep, I had no problem putting them on or with comfort over the instep.

    For touring I would need to at least do aggressive liner molding, perhaps a little punching for the big toe length.
    Definitely shorter than my Quantum’s in 28.5. Width across the forefoot and heel hold is just a fraction tighter. And that is comparing with same liner and custom footbed. Stock liner and footbed gave a roomier fit. Nice liner, but I need something thicker to take up more width.

    I wish they were narrower, but, that is also just due to my narrow foot. If you don’t have a narrow foot, you might love it.

    Little bit stiffer than my Quantum Free.
    I could not feel a noticeable difference between the ‘regular’ Peak and the Peak Carbon, in forward flex and stiffness.

    Buckles do not have micro adjust.
    Powerstrap is great.

    Heel outsole is very narrow. I wonder how that would fit with crampons. US Quarter for scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhetherMan View Post
    One of the early non-skiing criticisms is limited rearward rom. That's relative to this class of boot and coming from a skimo racer who almost certainly has higher expectations in that regard than the average mag
    I am very far from a skimo racer, but I do value comfort and ease while skinning and walking highly

    Comparing to my Quantum Free’s, walking around the house , on inclines and and checking stride length:
    • In normal boot walking, fairly similar. Shorter, more rockered sole walks better on hard surfaces.
    • A bit more resistance once you start getting into a longer stride on skis on flat terrain.
    • ”clicking” sound and feel from heel spine catching on something when forward flexing moderately far.
    • Max rearward range of motion is uncomfortable because tall heel of clog digs into Achilles.


    In short, range of motion, resistance to motion and comfort while walking/striding are ok, but not great. My Quantum Free is definitely a bit better, and in my memory from several years ago, the Backland Pro was too.

    Walk mode lever sticks out very far when up:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tjaardbreeuwer View Post
    I am very far from a skimo racer, but I do value comfort and ease while skinning and walking highly

    Comparing to my Quantum Free’s, walking around the house , on inclines and and checking stride length:
    • In normal boot walking, fairly similar. Shorter, more rockered sole walks better on hard surfaces.
    • A bit more resistance once you start getting into a longer stride on skis on flat terrain.
    • ”clicking” sound and feel from heel spine catching on something when forward flexing moderately far.
    • Max rearward range of motion is uncomfortable because tall heel of clog digs into Achilles.


    In short, range of motion, resistance to motion and comfort while walking/striding are ok, but not great. My Quantum Free is definitely a bit better, and in my memory from several years ago, the Backland Pro was too.

    Walk mode lever sticks out very far when up:
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    Seems like a miss. That heel lever sticking out is a bizarre oversight.

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    I did some more digging. The ‘clicking’ sound, and associated feeling of something catching, was caused by the Velcro’d on spoiler on the Palau liner I was using to try them on.

    Without that, there was still a bit of that spine catching on the latch and bumps in the cuff, but it was much more minimal.

    The other thing I realized was that the higher back of the clog was pushing my foot forward into the front of the boot when sliding my ski forward. I worry that this would cause toe(nail) issues for long flat skinning, since the length is already on the short side.

    Also confirmed I need to unhook and move the cuff buckle, moving it to the last notch for skinning, since that’s the only one that’s loose enough and has the catch to keep the wire from unhooking and flopping around.

    So, although I love the weight, stiffness and fit, especially the shape of the nose, I think these are not for me.

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    The comparison I'd like to see: Compare the ‘regular’ Peak and the Peak Carbon on the snow. Due to limited availability of the Peak Carbon it would be nice to know what, if anything, a lighter skier is giving up with the non-carbon Peak.

    The other comparison I'd to see, or just a review in general, is between the new Scarpa F1 XT and the Peak. The TP SCARPA F1 GT & F1 XT boot test is the only XT review I've seen of the F1 XT.

    I'm currently touring with the F1 LT and find the velcro annoying and the boa doesn't clamp down tight enough so paying a weight penalty for buckles is worth it for me. But that raises the question about whether it makes even more sense to go with the Tecnica Zero G Peak instead?

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    Any more thoughts on stiffness of the carbon vs regular version? One comment here made it sound like there was a big difference, another comment sounded like they couldn't tell much difference.
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    I've got a brand new pair of 27.5s to either sell or trade for a 28.5. Incorrectly thought the bsl between a Zero g pro tour and the Peak were the same, but they are not. The 27.5 bsl on the Peak is 298mm.

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    My wife, who's a great skier, is on a pair of zero g pro 130 and thinks they are a lot softer than the 2020 model

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