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**climberevan** · 02-07-2022, 06:56 PM

I noted this McMansion Hell contender near Nevada City today.

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**dan_pdx** · 02-07-2022, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by climberevan

I noted this McMansion Hell contender near Nevada City today.

Wow, those dormers and tiny vestigial shutters make me want to meet the owners and ask them what they were thinking.

Also, what kind of monster builds a house sideways? ;-)

**climberevan** · 02-07-2022, 07:02 PM

The app used to keep photos oriented correctly but doesn't now... What can be done?

**dan_pdx** · 02-10-2022, 10:42 AM

Actually kind of cool, but they definitely crammed too much onto this lot, and the video makes it look like some of the work wasn't done well.
https://www.redfin.com/WA/Bellingham.../home/15814787

Mainly interesting for this: "Raised deck with nearly complete Swim/Spa/Pool below." Looks like the deck is suspended from the I-beams and slides away to uncover the pool. Again, kind of cool, but seems like it's going to be trouble down the road.

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**The AD** · 02-10-2022, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by climberevan

I noted this McMansion Hell contender near Nevada City today.

This is nice--assuming it's a dorm and not a single-family home.

**mcphee** · 02-10-2022, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by dan_pdx

Actually kind of cool, but they definitely crammed too much onto this lot, and the video makes it look like some of the work wasn't done well.
https://www.redfin.com/WA/Bellingham.../home/15814787

Mainly interesting for this: "Raised deck with nearly complete Swim/Spa/Pool below." Looks like the deck is suspended from the I-beams and slides away to uncover the pool. Again, kind of cool, but seems like it's going to be trouble down the road.

Oh man, that sucks so bad. Those L brackets are doing a lot of work there. Are those little come alongs on the steel cables?

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**dan_pdx** · 02-10-2022, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by mcphee

Oh man, that sucks so bad. Those L brackets are doing a lot of work there. Are those little come alongs on the steel cables?

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I had that same thought about the L-brackets. They're right at the joint between the 2 x 8s or whatever those are, what are they screwed into? How would a building inspector feel about all this?

**::: :::** · 02-10-2022, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by mcphee

Oh man, that sucks so bad. Those L brackets are doing a lot of work there. Are those little come alongs on the steel cables?

Originally Posted by dan_pdx

I had that same thought about the L-brackets. They're right at the joint between the 2 x 8s or whatever those are, what are they screwed into? How would a building inspector feel about all this?

you know what's doing a lot of work?
those tiny bars connecting the columns base plates to the post bases
the post bases aren't even restrained by the soil like a footing might be
there's no lateral restraint in the direction of the movement [maybe the beams are fastened back to the house, but I doubt it]
once that deck starts swinging...those columns might tip

**The AD** · 02-10-2022, 04:51 PM

This seems like a ridiculous solution to something that isn't actually a problem. If There's room enough to slide the deck over to reveal the pool below, why not just build the deck to the side of the pool in the first place?

**mcphee** · 02-10-2022, 05:04 PM

Lol. Looks like they spent a 100k to get rid of an old cellar door.

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**RootSkier** · 02-10-2022, 05:26 PM

The way the ceiling is a slightly different pitch than the stairs makes me unreasonably angry. Of course, if they didn't have that dark piece of trim on the ceiling, it probably wouldn't even be noticeable.

**dunfree** · 02-10-2022, 05:47 PM

You’d still notice it because the open beam, the trim, and the staircase ar3 at different angles

**mcphee** · 02-10-2022, 05:54 PM

Its a fish eye effect to get as much of the space in the pic. See the ceiling fan

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**Ted Striker** · 02-10-2022, 09:44 PM

Root's right. It's shallower than the stairs, and the trim is dumb. I've seen it IRL.

We know the next door neighbors, and (sort of) know the story on why that place is so weird. It started as a 600 sq ft shitty old rental (it's still on street view if curious). The current owners bought it and started "remodeling" the original building into what's now the main house, but rather than tear down everything but the front door and start framing the real house, they did it as a really prolonged piecemeal project. Like they were making it up as they went along. Over the years it took to complete both buildings, there were several eyebrow raising moments while walking or driving by.

**Ted Striker** · 02-10-2022, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by ::: :::

you know what's doing a lot of work?
those tiny bars connecting the columns base plates to the post bases
the post bases aren't even restrained by the soil like a footing might be
there's no lateral restraint in the direction of the movement [maybe the beams are fastened back to the house, but I doubt it]

I've seen the framing. All sistered 2x4s, and plywood sheathing . There's nothing substantial to lag bolt into.

**::: :::** · 02-10-2022, 10:41 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/r...e=articleShare

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**rideit** · 02-10-2022, 11:05 PM

I mean, it’s kinda cool, but I wouldn’t want to live there. No ‘hominess’.

**The AD** · 02-10-2022, 11:06 PM

^ I was wondering how this dude was a successful record exec and I'd never heard of either of the labels he started. Turns out they're Christian rock labels. That explains a lot.

I find the house a bit too stark, too. Looks like it should be in L.A. rather than Seattle. I'm not sure why every house these days has to be so boxy.

**Ted Striker** · 02-11-2022, 09:22 AM

Because some architects never got over Frank Lloyd Wright.

**Mazderati** · 02-11-2022, 09:25 AM

I like the house but not the setting.

**::: :::** · 02-11-2022, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by rideit

I mean, it’s kinda cool, but I wouldn’t want to live there. No ‘hominess’.

Totally get it’s not for everyone. What does hominess mean to you?

Some unconventional moves for sure. If you look at the plans, it’s a luxury primary suit (formerly “master”) with an island (reached by bridge) of dorm rooms for the six kids but only two full baths for them with a common room [altho they have their own roof garden]. Clearly an intention that they spent little time alone in their rooms.

It is really well done from a composition, materiality & construction perspective. Tied into the site well. No compromises & well finished.

**Ted Striker** · 02-11-2022, 09:39 AM

I like the house too. Probably stands out like a sore thumb in that neighborhood (lotta pseudo-Tudor and McSpanish villas)

**rideit** · 02-11-2022, 09:41 AM

It definitely has some cool qualities. But I think I like a little more warmth, possibly if they had used more wood?

**dan_pdx** · 02-11-2022, 10:09 AM

In the article, they said the build cost was $1k/square foot for 5k feet. Plus whatever they spent on the lot, I think they said like $1.2 M or something like that. Guess there's some money in Christian rock.