Alec Baldwin WTF

**old_newguy** · 10-24-2021, 08:58 AM

Some of you need to read this.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts...s-handbook-pdf

1. In the immediate aftermath, news outlets will get it wrong.

2. Don't trust anonymous sources.

3. Don't trust stories that cite another news outlet as the source of the information.

5. Pay attention to the language the media uses.

6. Look for news outlets close to the incident.

7. Compare multiple sources.

8. Big news brings out the fakers. And Photoshoppers.

9. Beware reflexive retweeting. Some of this is on you.

Thanks to Twitter and Facebook, youare a repeater and reporter of information, both good and bad. It is up to you to apply scrutiny to the information you encounter to avoid passing amplifying the same bad information you hope to filter out.

**Benny Profane** · 10-24-2021, 09:17 AM

Always be skeptical.

**Kinnikinnick** · 10-24-2021, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Always be skeptical.

Why should I trust you to tell me what to do?

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**Benny Profane** · 10-24-2021, 09:26 AM

Whoosh.

**Kinnikinnick** · 10-24-2021, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Whoosh.

Joke went right over your head?

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**bennymac** · 10-24-2021, 10:01 AM

I like how he posted the sound effect of it as it flew by overhead

**Skistack** · 10-24-2021, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Always be skeptical.

Put that coffee down!

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**Meadow Skipper** · 10-24-2021, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by riser3

I'm actually seriously Wonder if someone purposefully snuck a real loaded round in there to prove a point based on the safety concerns.

The pistol still should have been checked by the armorer/weapons specialist before that person handed it to the actor, and the AD shouldn’t have handed it to the actor and he shouldn’t have called out “Cold gun” if he didn’t know it for certain.

IOW, the protocols that would have prevented that were not followed. It seems like the set was probably a severe/toxic shitshow.

**muted reborn** · 10-24-2021, 11:01 AM

It is highly unlikely anyone could have gotten by the weapons specialist to put a bullet in the gun. And sets being severe toxic shitshows where everyone is overworked tired and frustrated is quite common. It's part of the industry. So I don't see an obvious link of crew members quitting to committing murder.

**MTT** · 10-24-2021, 11:05 AM

You could blame a couple of people for this but I want to know how a live round finds its way into a movie gun

Was there just one live round or more?

Were people fucking around with it plinking the night before? And they are stupid. Or was it done on purpose

**seano732** · 10-24-2021, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by MTT

You could blame a couple of people for this but I want to know how a live round finds its way into a movie gun

Was there just one live round or more?

Were people fucking around with it plinking the night before? And they are stupid. Or was it done on purpose

Don’t take this the wrong way, but you are the LAST person on this board that should be talking about weapons safety. Seriously.

**bennymac** · 10-24-2021, 11:13 AM

Read a little more MTT - a “live round” on a set doesn’t mean what you think

And it sounds like it was only 6 people who actually quit the production - so the headlines stating “movie crew quits over safety concerns” may be misleading in suggesting there was a mass exodus

**Ted Striker** · 10-24-2021, 11:14 AM

The notion that this was a setup is pretty preposterous.

**bennymac** · 10-24-2021, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Ted Striker

The notion that this was a setup is pretty preposterous.

Not if you consider the idea that Hillary Clinton was behind it

**concretejungle** · 10-24-2021, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Ted Striker

The notion that this was a setup is pretty preposterous.

It used to be. Welcome to the shitshow.

**MTT** · 10-24-2021, 11:31 AM

Some of you are not very bright

There are only two ways this happens
criminal negligence
Intentional criminal act

I would not be surprised if Baldwin was the one who wanted to find out how it felt to shoot an 1880’s six shooter

**SumJongGuy** · 10-24-2021, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by MTT

Some of you are not very bright

There are only two ways this happens
criminal negligence
Intentional criminal act

I would not be surprised if Baldwin was the one who wanted to find out how it felt to shoot an 1880’s six shooter

You apparently missed the details.. but on a movie set "live round" = a blank (wad), not an actual "round".. They use blanks all the time. But not when there are people up close.

**MTT** · 10-24-2021, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

You apparently missed the details.. but on a movie set "live round" = a blank (wad), not an actual "round".. They use blanks all the time. But not when there are people up close.

I was not there but wonder if one of the beefs the camera crew had was the insistence that the actor discharge blanks directly at the camera?

I have been watching the TV for a couple days

They keep saying 45.
Is that verified? The pistol shot 45 colt ?

Just to look at it. Big difference between a blank and a Live round
If you were blind you could tell by the weight and length

There is also the likely possibility they were swapping cylinders, had a bunch of them lined up and some idiot had ?? Again how do live 45 colt rounds get anywhere near a movie set. It’s people’s jobs to check that very basic thing

**SumJongGuy** · 10-24-2021, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by MTT

I was not there but wonder if one of the beefs the camera crew had was the insistence that the actor discharge blanks directly at the camera?

Baldwin's been in literally HUNDREDS of shoots where blanks are used and is fully aware of how dangerous they can be within 50 feet of anyone else..

**seano732** · 10-24-2021, 11:52 AM

You’re arguing with a guy that took a selfie with a gun to his head and then posted it on the Interwebz…..

**SumJongGuy** · 10-24-2021, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by seano732

You’re arguing with a guy that took a selfie with a gun to his head and then posted it on the Interwebz…..

If at first you don't succeed......

**riser4** · 10-24-2021, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

The pistol still should have been checked by the armorer/weapons specialist before that person handed it to the actor, and the AD shouldn’t have handed it to the actor and he shouldn’t have called out “Cold gun” if he didn’t know it for certain.

IOW, the protocols that would have prevented that were not followed. It seems like the set was probably a severe/toxic shitshow.

I'm thinking the armorer is the one who loaded the real round. Or someone pretty far along in the custody chain. In this scenario the person is trying to fuck the AD.

**MTT** · 10-24-2021, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by seano732

You’re arguing with a guy that took a selfie with a gun to his head and then posted it on the Interwebz…..

Always good to hear from my fan’s

I heard an interesting take on what happened to Brandon Lee

It was not a blank that killed him
The explanation was. They had been firing squibs through the gun previously the remains of a squib was stuck in the barrel. When he fired a “blank at his head “. It sent the squib into his brain
Interesting explanation
Still not very bright putting it a loaded gun to your head. You would want to make dam sure nothing could go boom. Fuckin movie stars