Alec Baldwin WTF

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Actually you're completely wrong here. Guns, on their own are NOT dangerous at all. It's the BULLETS that are dangerous.. No bullets, no danger.. Even without a gun, a bullet can be very dangerous..

Wtf is this moronic shit? This is a new level of stupidity and that’s impressive considering the source


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[MagnificentUnicorn]

I think some of you guys are misunderstanding that a big part of Baldwin’s responsibility is due to being a Producer of the film. So, not only did he pull the trigger, but he also hired the armorer who gave him the loaded gun. Lots of other pros on the film say the set was absolute chaos, so theoretically the armorer wasn’t given the tools or environment to do her job properly.

I doubt it will stick, but it does change the scenario vs. he was just an actor given a dangerous prop. He was also the Producer who hired the armorer who negligently gave an actor a deadly prop.

Did he personally hire her or was it the production company?


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[lowsparkco]

I don’t know the details. Just passing along the commentary that the prosecution has expressed that he has a greater responsibility because of his role as Producer.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

I don’t know the details. Just passing along the commentary that the prosecution has expressed that he has a greater responsibility because of his role as Producer.

Is he the only producer?


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[SumJongGuy]

Wtf is this moronic shit? This is a new level of stupidity and that’s impressive considering the source


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The gun was not the problem.. The bullets were the problem here... But that's true 99.999% percent of the time in all gun related deaths ya moran..

[The AD]

I fully understand what The AD is saying...just pointing out that cars are pretty dangerous, especially if the intent is to do harm.

Guns are not always weapons...get this, often times in films they're props!

I'm sure there are all sorts of safety protocols for film production around use of cars. Doesn't seem like this is a hill worth dying on, so I'll just leave it at that.

Yeah, I'm sure if you look at the stats there have been probably been many more accidents involving cars on movie sets than guns.

[AK47bp]

The gun was not the problem.. The bullets were the problem here... But that's true 99.999% percent of the time in all gun related deaths ya moran..

So in your car analogy the problem is the gas, not the car?

What about a grenade? The finger that pulls the pin is the problem, otherwise a grenade isn’t hurting anyone.

Where’s that horse?




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[MagnificentUnicorn]

The gun was not the problem.. The bullets were the problem here... But that's true 99.999% percent of the time in all gun related deaths ya moran..

I thought it was humans that are the problem but you do stupid


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[Meadow Skipper]

Is he the only producer?

Well, I’m pretty sure he’s the only producer that shot someone and killed her. If that makes a difference.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Well, I’m pretty sure he’s the only producer that shot someone and killed her. If that makes a difference.

I’m mean yeah if he’s the only producer, films usually have several producers and a production company. I doubt Alec Baldwin was the sole producer and responsible for the entire production. Does that make sense? A lot of actors are producers on their films but that doesn’t mean it’s their production.


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[Meadow Skipper]

I’m mean yeah if he’s the only producer, films usually have several producers and a production company. I doubt Alec Baldwin was the sole producer and responsible for the entire production. Does that make sense? A lot of actors are producers on their films but that doesn’t mean it’s their production.

There are probably other producers, but I wouldn’t think the prosecution will dwell on that. The prosecution will be dealing with a jury (of people that can’t get out of it), not the fine legal minds in TRG.

But that gives me a thought - it’s entirely possible I could get called to jury duty for that case. If so, expect a note passed to the judge during deliberations asking for change for a nickel.

[XXX-er]

I’m mean yeah if he’s the only producer, films usually have several producers and a production company. I doubt Alec Baldwin was the sole producer and responsible for the entire production. Does that make sense? A lot of actors are producers on their films but that doesn’t mean it’s their production.


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yeah but he is the one ever buddy hates

[byates1]

Is it possible this brain twister of a situation could be rolled into the fastfred screenplay that's apparently in the works in the life falling apart thread?

[old goat]

Yeah, I'm sure if you look at the stats there have been probably been many more accidents involving cars on movie sets than guns.

As far as fatal accidents it's helicopters by a mile.

[ex-powderbroker]

As far as fatal accidents it's helicopters by a mile.

no, it's knot

[old goat]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...sion_accidents
from 1980-`1990 24 of 37 deaths were from helicopters. If you care you're welcome to pick through more recent decades. I don't.

[bennymac]

yeah but he is the one ever buddy hates

I don't know - my buddy loves Alec Baldwin

[El Chupacabra]

.......... Nevermind. Posted in wrong thread.

[The AD]

I don't know - my buddy loves Alec Baldwin

I think he's a good actor and a funny actor, but I could definitely imagine him being a big time prick in person.

[Garbowski]

"An actor does not get a free pass just because they are an actor. That is what is so important. We are saying here in New Mexico, that everyone is equal under the law."

I hadn't heard anything about the DA commenting on his role as producer, but of course that is an issue. It should be the only issue- whomever was paying for this production is ultimately responsible for its safety.

I highly doubt Baldwin was interviewing armorers- as an actor producer I bet he was not looking at spreadsheets. Had he pistol whipped someone to death I may look at it differently, but I don't think there's anything here but an accident and a tragedy. It's just theatrics- Kevin Costner would not be going to court alone representing the production of Yellowstone in Montana.

[leroy jenkins]

Actually you're completely wrong here. Guns, on their own are NOT dangerous at all. It's the BULLETS that are dangerous.. No bullets, no danger.. Even without a gun, a bullet can be very dangerous..

All a bullet is is a projectile. You mean a cartridge, but ok, even ignoring that, can you tell me how a cartridge without a bore to propel the bullet is dangerous? Unless its like a 50BMG or larger there really is not much destructive power there without a bore to focus it. And they are fairly stable. Theyre not going to go off by getting dropped.

[Garbowski]

When I was as smart as I used to be, I played with bullets, cartridges, and primers a lot. If you hit the primer the right way, you can get it to go off. One in a million shot on a little rock or something is possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6VMTSnzOPg

[AKPogue]

All a bullet is is a projectile. You mean a cartridge, but ok, even ignoring that, can you tell me how a cartridge without a bore to propel the bullet is dangerous? Unless its like a 50BMG or larger there really is not much destructive power there without a bore to focus it. And they are fairly stable. Theyre not going to go off by getting dropped.

A cartridge will definitely go off if it lands just right on something. I personally know of an instance where a guy loading 9mm into a magazine dropped a cartridge and it went off.

[present tense]

Been trying to wrap my head around this one, if you strip down all the circumstances around the film and production, what it comes down to is two folks playing pretend with a firearm. One loads the firearm and the other pulls the trigger. Everything else circumstantial will be left to attorneys, jurors and a judge to sort out?

If two people were doing this same activity in their backyard and a bystander gets killed, are the charges brought forth any different?

[cat in january]

In your scenario remember the one who loaded the gun is a professional and relied upon to deliver a safe gun. The person was paid to fulfill this responsibility