Atomic Mimic Professional Liner

[SkiLyft]

I heat them at home; oven to 200. 10 minutes in the oven. Pop them out. Reassemble boot and step in for 10-20 minutes.


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[bradentownleyfrench@gmail.com]

Fantastic - thank you! Maybe a dumb question, but do you put them on anything in the over or just right on the rack? Does it matter if plastic or fabric side are on the rack?

[SkiLyft]

I do plastic down; they “unfold” a bit when warm. Set on the rack or a cookie sheet. Doesn’t matter.

Of note I find the liners pack out a bit after 100 or so days. Buying a new (greater volume) tongue makes them fit snug again.


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[mr_pretzel]

Any have any experience with the XTD liner in a Zero G Pro Tour?
How do the liners walk in general?

On average how much does a 26.5 liner weigh?

[oetk2]

Looking for some input here. Have about 30 days on my liners in my Redster CS, is this normal wear? User error? I put on and lace up my liners then step into the shells

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[sierra_cement]

Try taping with duck tape the inside of the shells along the back spine anywhere it's not smooth? Like where the bolt heads are and any sharp transitions between pieces of plastic. Cutting rounded corners on the piece of tape will help it from peeling off too quickly as well.

Or you can get one of these
https://www.zipfit.com/shop/accessories/ski-boot-horn

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[Jongle]

Stick some tenacious tape over the heels of the liners themselves too to prevent further wear.

[tenB]

Is there a reason you step into your boots with your liners on? It looks like the wear and damage to your liner is being caused by that maneuver. The CS is not wc narrow and you should be able to put them on the old fashioned way

[sierra_cement]

Looks like he's got laces on the liners. Hard to step into laced liners when the liners are already in the boot

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[The Iron Horse]

This is what I use: 3M PTFE Film Electrical Tape 60, 1.5" Width x 36yd Length (1 roll), Translucent https://a.co/d/ezug523

No idea what happened to the price (I paid $15), but I'm sure you can find it elsewhere.

[gregL]

On average how much does a 26.5 liner weigh?

Mine weigh 533 grams per liner, no footbed - heavier than "average" since I put in 28.5 worth of PU foam, not the normal 26.5.

[gregL]

Looking for some input here. Have about 30 days on my liners in my Redster CS, is this normal wear? User error? I put on and lace up my liners then step into the shells

What the other people say; if you want to lace up then step in/out, you'll scrape the Strobl soles at the heel every time, eventually they'll get trashed. Some sort of PTFE or Kevlar tape over the heels works to prevent it. Happens with Zipfit too.

My CS Pro liners have twice as many days and they look new but I leave them in the boots. In the past, I laced then slid into the shell to get improved heel retention / less movement between sock and liner, but I get zero movement with the Pro liners anyway so I stopped using laces. Redster CS has plenty of room over the instep and getting in is no worse than average.

[oetk2]

Thanks all. I'll try again to step in with them in the boots now that they're broken in. Earlier in the season I couldn't get my heel past the foam section around my ankles/achilles with the liner in the shell. I had duct tape on the back of the spine but it came off after 10 days or so and just made a mess. I'll check out the tape options above, love the boots and liners so want them to last as long as possible.

[oetk2]

Try taping with duck tape the inside of the shells along the back spine anywhere it's not smooth? Like where the bolt heads are and any sharp transitions between pieces of plastic. Cutting rounded corners on the piece of tape will help it from peeling off too quickly as well.

Or you can get one of these
https://www.zipfit.com/shop/accessories/ski-boot-horn

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that looks interesting and might be worth a try for $12

[gregL]

that looks interesting and might be worth a try for $12

Alpine Boot Horn definitely helps lessen friction going in; I use it all the time in the shop. Not going out, though.

[SkiLyft]

Mama got foamed this morning at The Creel!



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[onenerdykid]

Mama got foamed this morning at The Creel!



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Nice! The team at Sports Creel does nice work. How is she liking the fit?

[Skip Dooley]

Does anyone have experience with these in a touring boot? Interested in trying a pair in my Zero Gs. Have GFTs and intuitions. They each have their trade offs.. A lighter liner with heel hold approaching ZipFits could be a holy grail..


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[onenerdykid]

Does anyone have experience with these in a touring boot? Interested in trying a pair in my Zero Gs. Have GFTs and intuitions. They each have their trade offs.. A lighter liner with heel hold approaching ZipFits could be a holy grail..


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We make this liner for the Hawx Ultra XTD/Prime XTD (and other brands' boots that fit similarly). It's definitely not light, about 600g in 26.5 when foamed.

[SkiLyft]

Nice! The team at Sports Creel does nice work. How is she liking the fit?

She’s looking obsessed, new footbeds, tweaks to the bootboard and the mimic, have her DIALED

Agreed, Micah’s been doing my boot work for the last 4 years and he knows his stuff. Best boot fitter in Spokane.

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[Nator]

I tried this and it's a pretty odd fit. Backland XTD's boot board is more rockered (matching the sole profile) and it causes the liner to kink at the midfoot in an odd way. This gets exacerbated with the plastic tongue over the foot. It's not unbearable, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Hi again ONK -
Just following up on this question because I see now there is a Backland XTD specific professional liner available.
What are your thoughts on that liner?

Also if I am purchasing the liner on my own, do I need to buy 2 of the foam injector kits or does 1 kit cover the pair (left and right) of liners?

Thanks again!

[gregL]

Also if I am purchasing the liner on my own, do I need to buy 2 of the foam injector kits or does 1 kit cover the pair (left and right) of liners?

One kit, but supply is very limited in the US right now, new production due November 1. Make sure your cartridges are current (check the date stamp on the package).

[wilcox510]

Hi again ONK -
Just following up on this question because I see now there is a Backland XTD specific professional liner available.
What are your thoughts on that liner?

Also if I am purchasing the liner on my own, do I need to buy 2 of the foam injector kits or does 1 kit cover the pair (left and right) of liners?

Thanks again!

Yeah, I just saw the Backland Professional Liner on the Skimo.co website. Super interested to know more about this... where does the foam fill up? Around the ankle and heel? Thats exactly where I need it... About how much do they weigh? Obviously that varies depending on how much foam you put in... Is the rest of the liner similar to the normal Backland XT liner or what?

[onenerdykid]

Yeah, I just saw the Backland Professional Liner on the Skimo.co website. Super interested to know more about this... where does the foam fill up? Around the ankle and heel? Thats exactly where I need it... About how much do they weigh? Obviously that varies depending on how much foam you put in... Is the rest of the liner similar to the normal Backland XT liner or what?

Backland Professional liner is awesome but unfortunately was cancelled due to significant drop in the touring market. If anyone can find a liner in the market, it's a super lucky find.

It follows the same basic philosophy of our Mimic Professional alpine liners- the same foam is pumped into the ankle/mid-foot area but it doesn't have Mimic (to save weight). The end result is a liner that is still under 300g / 26.5 but fits like a foam liner.

[sierra_cement]

Backland Professional liner is awesome but unfortunately was cancelled due to significant drop in the touring market. If anyone can find a liner in the market, it's a super lucky find.

It follows the same basic philosophy of our Mimic Professional alpine liners- the same foam is pumped into the ankle/mid-foot area but it doesn't have Mimic (to save weight). The end result is a liner that is still under 300g / 26.5 but fits like a foam liner.

Hopefully the "significant drop in the touring market" will translate into less crowds tracking out the backcountry this winter!
[emoji1787]

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