Molson Coors eliminates a bunch of Ice & similar beers, I cry for Weinhards

[XXX-er]

so does buddy sell beer cans or just drink a lot?

[dunfree]

All the shitty midwest beers under the same roof. It's like a family reunion, that's the comforting bit.

I know I'm in the minority here at the TGRs, and I love supporting local breweries, but ~90% of what craft brewers make tastes like garbage to me. I'll take a shitty beer just about every time over the local goat's milk sour quad IPA radler.

If they had an owner that gave a fuck instead of just milking brands for cash the beers might not suck.

[abraham]

The shitty Midwest beers owner or the owner making goat milk quad IPAs?

[The AD]

Here in the PNW Beer nirvana there is a movement towards more drinkable lager style craft brews.

This reads like marketing BS. I don't understand how a lager is inherently more "drinkable" than an ale. I have zero problems drinking either one.

[NW_SKIER]

Sad to see the death of Keystone Ice. Fuzzy memories of my time in AK getting half racks of those things (somebody mentioned bang for the buck, which was a major thing in Bristol Bay) and just getting absolutely piss drunk while smoking a joint and blowing shit up with seal bombs. Man, 18 was a fun age.

[altasnob]

This reads like marketing BS. I don't understand how a lager is inherently more "drinkable" than an ale. I have zero problems drinking either one.

Ya, it's a bit of semantics as to what label you put on it. Just pointing out that local craft breweries are brewing "swill" beer these days as well. One my favorite is Bone Light, from Boneyard. When I first had it at the tasting room the owner was handing out unlimited free samples and described it as "lawn mowing beer."

[ZomblibulaX]

I know I'm in the minority here at the TGRs, and I love supporting local breweries, but ~90% of what craft brewers make tastes like garbage. I'll take a shitty beer just about every time over the local goat's milk sour quad IPA radler.

Tastes like garbage or just gives you the shits. We used to refer to Ska Pinstripe as "Pants-stripe" Red. Nothing wrong with the beer, but when you're drinking with purpose, microbrews catch up with your guts.

When I was still drinking it did give me a small amount of perverse pleasure going in to a brew pub and ordering a Coors Light. I can (rather, could) drink CL Smooth from dawn to dawn and keep my shit together, but a few goat's milk quad ipas and I'd be drooling. Drinking shouldn't be a chore, stick to the basics.

[dunfree]

This reads like marketing BS. I don't understand how a lager is inherently more "drinkable" than an ale. I have zero problems drinking either one.

It’s a relative statement about the current beer market. Go back 80 years and both ales and lagers were lower in alcohol and more drinkable.

[The AD]

Ya, it's a bit of semantics as to what label you put on it. Just pointing out that local craft breweries are brewing "swill" beer these days as well. One my favorite is Bone Light, from Boneyard. When I first had it at the tasting room the owner was handing out unlimited free samples and described it as "lawn mowing beer."

I was always a fan of Full Sail's Session beer. I think they deserve credit for the first nominally "craft brewery" to brew a straight ahead, low bitterness lager.

[BmillsSkier]

I was always a fan of Full Sail's Session beer. I think they deserve credit for the first nominally "craft brewery" to brew a straight ahead, low bitterness lager.

Not totally sure about that. It’s probably close though.

Nice to see the PNW catching up to the Midwest in that aspect. Drinkable craft Lagers are great (I understand that it may be cost prohibitive to microbreweries to do lagers though, but I'm not a brewer so who knows if that's true).


Since 1988:

[altasnob]

I like Full Sail and they bought the mold from Olympia for their Session stubby bottles. But they sold out to a private equity so they are on my shit list like the rest of them.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

I was always a fan of Full Sail's Session beer. I think they deserve credit for the first nominally "craft brewery" to brew a straight ahead, low bitterness lager.

It seems everyone overlooks Anchor Steam


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[rideit]

I will probably drink anything you hand me BUT a molsons

but I only buy beer made in a craft brew 4 block from here

Did you guys have these out west? I used to drive up and pick up as many cases as were allowed.

[Woodsy]

It seems everyone overlooks Anchor Steam


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Word

Remember when there was regional beer ?
Weinhards
Anchor steam
Old Style
Rainer
Iron City
Lone Star
Leinenkugel
Shiner Bock
Red, white and blue
Yuengling
Rolling Rock

Hell I never saw lucky Lager till college in CA

[TBS]

I like Full Sail and they bought the mold from Olympia for their Session stubby bottles. But they sold out to a private equity so they are on my shit list like the rest of them.

During their last 10 or so years as an ESOP, Full Sail was a major contract brewer of Henry Weinhards. Wouldn’t have survived without that.

[basinbeater]

currently under the 4th generation of Matts family leadership…..


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Brewmeister smith would like a word.

sent from Utah.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Word

Remember when there was regional beer ?
Weinhards
Anchor steam
Old Style
Rainer
Iron City
Lone Star
Leinenkugel
Shiner Bock
Red, white and blue
Yuengling
Rolling Rock

Hell I never saw lucky Lager till college in CA

I wouldn’t put Anchor in the same list as those, maybe Shiner.


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[Aldo]

Oh Old style, there's a winner.
while my newfound thirst for Utica Club has some regional hurdles, I've been making inroads with Narragansett.
I'd recommend you lawn mowing lager guys look into it.

[m2711c]

Take off, eh?

[Woodsy]

I wouldn’t put Anchor in the same list as those, maybe Shiner.


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list was entirely "regional" as in shit you wouldn't see outside of a certain region of the country back in the 20th century, before craft brewing really started going in the 80s

Didnt really start drinking and traveling globally until the late 80s early 90s, did Anchor have a global distribution I am unaware of or are you parroting their "first craft brewery" marketing?
but yes I do see the quality difference in Anchor vs Lone Star

[BmillsSkier]

Word

Remember when there was regional beer ?
Weinhards
Anchor steam
Old Style
Rainer
Iron City
Lone Star
Leinenkugel
Shiner Bock
Red, white and blue
Yuengling
Rolling Rock

Hell I never saw lucky Lager till college in CA

When I spent my time in Cincinnati I realized there were neighborhood beers, not just regional beers. Result of the massive German population I guess. One neighborhood was a Christian Morelein area, across town it was Burger, downtown it was Hudepohl and so on.

Last time through I was through there I saw someone had revived all these old brands. Kinda cool.

[evasive_MT]

It seems everyone overlooks Anchor Steam


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I took their tour in 1997 or 1998. It was the best brewery tour I’ve taken. I used to buy them a lot, but local beer has improved so much that I rarely bother with imports or beers from across the country. Our local actually does a steam now and then.

[The AD]

It seems everyone overlooks Anchor Steam

I disqualify it on several points. 1. Anchor was not a craft brewery. I think it probably qualifies as one now, but back in the '70s and '80s it was way bigger than the new upstart micros. 2. it's not low bitterness (33 IBU). I do give Anchor a lot of credit for really introducing "craft beer" to the U.S., though, so maybe point 1 is marginal. I need to drink some Anchor Steam. Haven't had one in years.

[The AD]

When I spent my time in Cincinnati I realized there were neighborhood beers, not just regional beers. Result of the massive German population I guess. One neighborhood was a Christian Morelein area, across town it was Burger, downtown it was Hudepohl and so on.

Last time through I was through there I saw someone had revived all these old brands. Kinda cool.

Were you there when Oldenberg was still open? Really cool place, but probably a little over the top and I'm sure that's what doomed them.

[abraham]

I disqualify it on several points. 1. Anchor was not a craft brewery. I think it probably qualifies as one now, but back in the '70s and '80s it was way bigger than the new upstart micros. 2. it's not low bitterness (33 IBU). I do give Anchor a lot of credit for really introducing "craft beer" to the U.S., though, so maybe point 1 is marginal. I need to drink some Anchor Steam. Haven't had one in years.

I think his point was that they used lager yeast.